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Message 2874 - Posted: 30 Jun 2004, 16:48:25 UTC

Is anyone else having this on their profile. I have almost 17,500 seti classic units but it shows up on Bonic web page to be 15,000 + units .
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Message 2879 - Posted: 30 Jun 2004, 17:02:02 UTC - in response to Message 2874.  

> Is anyone else having this on their profile. I have almost 17,500 seti classic
> units but it shows up on Bonic web page to be 15,000 + units .

The data is from a snapshot in May. After the old seti is officially shut down I imagine they will do a final update. I could have sworn it mentioned that when you activated your account, but perhaps not.
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Message 2938 - Posted: 1 Jul 2004, 2:34:20 UTC - in response to Message 2879.  
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I switched over to BOINC today, and I see in my profile the actual WU number as of yesterday when I stopped the classic seti@home process.

[Correction; sorry]: the number is in fact some two months old.
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Message 3074 - Posted: 1 Jul 2004, 9:44:33 UTC
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When starting the project of S@H2, the WU's' mentioned as already processed with S@H1was a snapshot of the state beginning May this year.
I was told when starting the S@H2 that these numbers should be updated once S@H1 is definitely closed. At that moment the real state of processed WU's should be transferred.

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Message 3090 - Posted: 1 Jul 2004, 10:26:34 UTC

I am having the same problem. I lost about 500 work units when i moved to to s@h2 about 30 mins ago. what is going on? someone please answer
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Message 3100 - Posted: 1 Jul 2004, 10:55:01 UTC

Please read my answer:
these numbers should be updated once S@H1 is definitely closed. At that moment the real state of processed WU's should be transferred
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Message 3105 - Posted: 1 Jul 2004, 11:16:22 UTC - in response to Message 3100.  

There are still many many people running SAH1 who won't switch to BOINC until the plug is pulled on classic. Their totals are still being recorded and scored, so I'm sure that the Berkeley team is not going to toss their work down the drain.

On a side note, I get the stats I really want to get from add-ons. I'm more interested in Gaussians, Spikes and Triples than I am in how long I ran a WU compared to computer X. The big bingo here is finding a radio transmitter on the other side of the galaxy, not a certificate for 10,000 WUs.

> Please read my answer:
> these numbers should be updated once S@H1 is definitely closed. At that
> moment the real state of processed WU's should be transferred

>
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Message 3509 - Posted: 2 Jul 2004, 16:03:21 UTC - in response to Message 3105.  

I agree with D.Drake on the fact that all I am doing this for is the idea that the project may (one day) detect a signal out there. I could care less about points/stats/advancements in distributed computing.

On the other hand I will probably end my Seti@home involvement when the lights are turned out on the old system as I feel the new system is more about the features of the BOINC system than what it should be about (crunching WU's). Also the whole idea of the BOINC client and its complexities are a waste of my time since it almost feels like I have to "maintain" that damn thing. I would rather have the original Seti client updated and be done with it. Most hardcore crunchers like me are not going to take advantage of any of the features that the BOINC framework/platform will offer so why bother. All I want it to do is the following:

1. Download new WU when it needs to
2. Upload results when it needs to
3. Crunch WU when I tell it should crunch WU

The rest is all fluff and a waste of my time.

My $0.02


> There are still many many people running SAH1 who won't switch to BOINC until
> the plug is pulled on classic. Their totals are still being recorded and
> scored, so I'm sure that the Berkeley team is not going to toss their work
> down the drain.
>
> On a side note, I get the stats I really want to get from add-ons. I'm more
> interested in Gaussians, Spikes and Triples than I am in how long I ran a WU
> compared to computer X. The big bingo here is finding a radio transmitter on
> the other side of the galaxy, not a certificate for 10,000 WUs.
>
> > Please read my answer:
> > these numbers should be updated once S@H1 is definitely closed. At
> that
> > moment the real state of processed WU's should be transferred

> >
>
>
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Message 3514 - Posted: 2 Jul 2004, 16:10:36 UTC

Indeed.

Lets hope this infact is the case. There are still quite a few problems with the BONIC (IE: Old Webstats, URL links, Server Problems) but lets all just wait it out and see what happens.

I agree that it would make sense that the Seti staff will update the data-bases once everything is up and going. But lets give them some time to figure it all out.

After all, BOINC is essentially brand new.



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Message 3522 - Posted: 2 Jul 2004, 16:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 3509.  

> I agree with D.Drake on the fact that all I am doing this for is the idea that
> the project may (one day) detect a signal out there. I could care less about
> points/stats/advancements in distributed computing.
>
> On the other hand I will probably end my Seti@home involvement when the lights
> are turned out on the old system as I feel the new system is more about the
> features of the BOINC system than what it should be about (crunching WU's).
> Also the whole idea of the BOINC client and its complexities are a waste of my
> time since it almost feels like I have to "maintain" that damn thing. I would
> rather have the original Seti client updated and be done with it. Most
> hardcore crunchers like me are not going to take advantage of any of the
> features that the BOINC framework/platform will offer so why bother. All I
> want it to do is the following:
>
> 1. Download new WU when it needs to
> 2. Upload results when it needs to
> 3. Crunch WU when I tell it should crunch WU
>
> The rest is all fluff and a waste of my time.
>
> My $0.02
>
That is EXACTLY how the system worked in Beta! The problems now will be overcome, maybe it came out of Beta too soon, or too many people were allowed to sign up at once, or I don't know what else.
But what you want is what we Beta users got, and I think Berkeley is working towards that for EVERYONE now!
The Classic was full of complaints and inuendos about cheating, all that should be taken care of in Boinc. The other advantage to Boinc is if the Scientists need to make a change to the software it can be done with NO INPUT from you or I. That is the automatic updating feature that we beta testers worked hard on. It IS possible to turn this off and do it manually for whatever reasons you or anyone else might have but the idea is to be able to roll with the Science as it evolves. This was NOT possible under Seti Classic. There are MANY other reasons why Boinc is here and here to stay but these are a couple that you seemed interesed in.



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Message 3766 - Posted: 3 Jul 2004, 20:24:17 UTC

Not much different when Micro$oft releases new software, nothing works right for the first couple months.
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Message 3770 - Posted: 3 Jul 2004, 20:27:41 UTC

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Message 3778 - Posted: 3 Jul 2004, 20:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 3522.  

> That is EXACTLY how the system worked in Beta!

-cough-

Servers were still a tad flakey in beta.

> The other advantage to Boinc is if the
> Scientists need to make a change to the software it can be done with NO INPUT
> from you or I. That is the automatic updating feature that we beta testers
> worked hard on. It IS possible to turn this off and do it manually for
> whatever reasons you or anyone else might have but the idea is to be able to
> roll with the Science as it evolves.

I don't remember working hard on the auto update feature. They we released it, we used it... Not too difficult from my point of view.

And how do you turn it off?
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