> Wordweavr
>
> You talk about Jesus Christ but I have not heard you mention Jesus of
> Nazareth. Are they different people? Paul talks of Jesus Christ but seems to
> know nothing of Mary, Joseph or Jesus of Nazareth. He doesn't mention the
> virgin birth. He preaches christ crucified but seems to know nothing about
> the crucifixion. To him it seems to be all spiritual. He does not claim to
> have known Jesus in the flesh.
>
>
>
He never did.

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> Admiral,
>
> You wrote:
>
> > I'll make a deal with your god. You can be the go between because you
> are in
> > touch with him and I'm not. You tell your god if he will forgive me my
> sins I
> > will forgive him his. Actually it's a good deal for him because my sins
> don't
> > amount to a bottle of stale beer compared to his. I think there is a
> line in
> > the Rubaiyat to that effect, I'll just borrow it, Fitsgerald wont mind,
> he's
> > dead.
>
>
> Your arrogance is pathetic, Admiral.
>
> Laugh now if you will, but you'll be crying later.
>
> You are running out of time Admiral. Death is going to catch up with you
> sooner or later, as it does with us all. I have really tried to reach out to
> you, Admiral, but you are one stubborn old goat. Well, I know what Jesus will
> say to the goats. Consider this:
>
> "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with
> him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be
> gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a
> shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his
> right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on
> his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared
> for you from the foundation of the world . . . Then shall he say also unto
> them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire,
> prepared for the devil and his angels . . . And these shall go away into
> everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” Matthew
> 25:31-34, 41, 46, KJV
>
> It's a clear, simple choice Admiral: Believe in Christ and live, or reject His
> Sacrifice and perish!
>
> "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not
> the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36,
> KJV
>
> And also:
>
> "He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye
> are not of God." John 8:47, KJV
>
>
CHRISTOROBOTO

Just like the Terminator and the Everready Bunny, this Jesus freak just keeps going, and going, and going...

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> > If you look way back somewheres I did tell everyone that religion is all
> about
> > making money and the bottomline. Told you so. Wormweaver is just like
> the
> > rest of them, praise Jesus and pass the plate. Jesus equals money. God
> > equals money.
>
> Yeah, but at 0.002¢/minute, that's only 60¢ every 5 hours. I wonder if they
> can pay their monthly isp invoice. I know Guam is a possession of the U.S. but
> would it be as cheap as Hawai`i to connect to the web from there?
>
> Of course, there may be financing from overseas but as Mr. Kochman stated he
> is not part of any organised religious group, this method of financing is
> likely not available. Of course, it is not known what his influence in Jamaica
> and South Korea is...
>

Ask his off shore accountant...they make a great team driving wedges into other peoples faiths.

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Egypt battles desert locust swarms from Libya...
...the locust are coming, the locust are coming!

I hear that the UN is trying out some locust recipes... unconfirmed rumour, that's all.

If they've been eating grain they're not bad-
Make sure the oil is really hot...cc

> > > I am just finish readind Dan Brown's DA VINCI CODE
> > > Very gook book and I think related to this thread.
> > > Anyone read it ? What are you comments ?
> > >
> > Yes, I read it. I wasn't impressed with it. It had its good points and
> I
> > think Dan Brown is a good historian. I think he shoud write non-fiction
> and
> > leave the fiction to people who do it better. But of course, fiction is
> where
> > the money is and everybody likes to eat regular.
> >
>
> Thanks for your comment. I've read it in 2 days, I just could stop reading
> it...Now I am trying to make the difference between historical facts and
> fiction in that story. You know, Marie Madelaine, the holly gral, the divine
> feminity, The thing been hidden by the catholic church to hide or to
> fabricate

> a new "truth" about Jesus in the new testament, etc. I am realy not familiar
> with those story. What do you think ? Where is the line between truth and
> fiction ?
>
> Thanks
>
Marc

There is a similar book from about 20 years ago you might enjoy "Holy Blood, Holy Grail".

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> Egypt battles desert locust swarms from Libya...
> ...the locust are coming, the locust are coming!
> <img> src="http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041019/i/r2053995893.jpg">
>
Locusts, christ, they are as big as canaries. John would get fat.

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> There is a similar book from about 20 years ago you might enjoy "Holy Blood,
> Holy Grail".

Thanks I'll have a look at my next public library stop.
One thing for sure is that DA VINCI CODE makes me want
to know more about his works. I always knew the guy was
a genius but didn't know nothing about him and his "funny"
relation with the church. Interresting.

I just polished off "The Source" last night - Great book.

> I just polished off "The Source" last night - Great book.
>
Yes it is a great book. I read it years ago. Unfortunately I lent my copy to some one and never got it back. You would probably like "Oh Jerusalem" if you have not already read it.

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Actually I've been stuck halfway towards finishing Gödel, Escher, Bach: An eternal golden braid for about 6mo. I think I'll finish that off first before picking anything new up.

> Yes it is a great book. I read it years ago. Unfortunately I lent my copy to
> some one and never got it back. You would probably like "Oh Jerusalem" if you
> have not already read it.

I have really enjoyed "Oh Jerusalem" Another good one is from French
writer GERALD MESSADIE "L'homme qui devint dieu" in english it would
be like "the man who became god" I am not sure if it has been translated
but he wrotes others that have been.

Messadie, Gerald. History of the Devil Trans. Mare Romano. New York: Kodansha, 1996.

Now I have just ad "The source" to my next reading list.

> I think I am going to just go back to ignoring your idiotic responses. I have
> more importan things to do with my time.


How very Christian of you. I had at the beginning of these discussions hoped that based on what I saw in your first posts that I would get to witness some good debates on religion from someone who was trustworthy, knowledgeable, honest and capable of a discussion far more intelligent than is able to flow from my meager thoughts. I'm sad to say it appears I was wrong.

And it is most disappointing to see that you do in fact appear to be the hypocrite that people have been claiming you to be. I've seen many examples which prove that claim to be true. But the above sentences probably proclaim it the loudest. In those two sentences one can see arrogance, hate, intolerance and other signs of an overinflated ego which indicate to me that perhaps you would be wiser to take more of Jesus' words to heart in how you live your own life before you try forcing them on others.

> Well , I wonder about that. There is god on his throne and jesus sitting next
> to him for billions of years. What do you suppose they talk about? And of
> course, Jesus existed from the big inning also. Both of them know everything,
> past, present and future. What the hell could they possibly find to talk
> about?
> Oh yes, of course, the weather.

Possibly about how much it hurts to sit for so long.

>.....perhaps you would be wiser to take more of Jesus' words to heart in how you live your own life before you try forcing them on others.

I dont see the woo woo man trying to force his belieif on others
He's obviously had his nose buried in the good book for a long time
One might say he knows it inside out
But all his witnessing is not to convince other people
Because he glorys only in himself
The woo woo man could care less for what others believe
He knows he's God's special favorite
I bet God has a special surprise in store
For when the woo woo man shows up expecting to collect his reward

So many on this thread talk about God did this and God sits on a throne and God is responsible, or not, or exists, or does not. But no one has defined what God is. Are we talking about a corporeal being? A spirit (that needs to be defined too)? A concept? How can you claim something doesn't exist when that something is undefined?

Take a crack at it: at the least it will begin to tell us how some of the beliefs on this board began.

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