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Message 1077948 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:37:48 UTC

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/curveball-jail-war-mongering-germany

"If Curveball is telling you that he lied about weapons of mass destruction in order to encourage the US to invade Iraq, then he has arguably broken the law," he said.

He got Bush hook line and sinker....
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Message 1077953 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:51:55 UTC - in response to Message 1077948.  

The intelligence folks know better than rely on one source for its information. Heck you had Hans Blix crawling up everyone butt in Iraq and found next to nothing.


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Message 1077954 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 17:52:40 UTC - in response to Message 1077948.  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/curveball-jail-war-mongering-germany

"If Curveball is telling you that he lied about weapons of mass destruction in order to encourage the US to invade Iraq, then he has arguably broken the law," he said.

He got Bush hook line and sinker....

This is old and new news. It has been public knowledge for a while that this was the only source of information that was used to make the decision to go to war and other handlers questions his word. Bush was a little to eager to to take his word instead of what others were telling him. On the other hand, we now have the truth from the horses mouth which is new.
This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.
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Message 1077990 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 18:59:46 UTC - in response to Message 1077954.  

We also knew that other Iraqis "scientists" had no idea who the so called informant was. He was just a jerk looking to topple Saddam. end of story


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Message 1078399 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 18:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 1077954.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


If you are claiming that Bush was a doofus fool, I can agree.
If you are going to state that the most powerful intelligence gathering mechanism on the planet, the US government, was fooled by one dude with a grudge then you and I are again in disagreement.
Bush lied but now has some other asshat to blame it on.

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Message 1078429 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 20:04:16 UTC - in response to Message 1078399.  

Dubya once explained his REAL reason for going after Saddam.

"He tried to kill my Daddy".

Everything else was an excuse. Anyone who opposed him was called working for the terrorists( A complete logic gap). And he used every excuse he could find
to pull it off.


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Message 1078564 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 0:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 1077954.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


Being willfully mislead and then passing on that misleading information as fact is about as close to lying directly as to make no discernible difference (outside of a courtroom).
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1078628 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 3:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 1078564.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


Being willfully mislead and then passing on that misleading information as fact is about as close to lying directly as to make no discernible difference (outside of a courtroom).

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

Shouldn't have made any difference in the Senate either.

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Message 1078645 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 4:25:40 UTC - in response to Message 1078628.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


Being willfully mislead and then passing on that misleading information as fact is about as close to lying directly as to make no discernible difference (outside of a courtroom).

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

Shouldn't have made any difference in the Senate either.

the funny thing is that people just as soon forget that Clinton clearly asks in his deposition if the investigation was using the Arkansas ruling as to what constituted sex. They said that they were.(apparently ignorant of what that may be) that ruling stated only vagina penetration constituted sex. So Clinton honestly told them he didn't have sex. His cigar did.

Also its funny what constitutes High crimes and what doesnt.

having sex with interns CHECK

Deliberately misleading the US, the UN, and the Coalition of a few into fighting a war on false pretenses. Presenting false evidence for that war. The Deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people from those lies. Didnt we hang a few folks after WWII for something similar... maybe I'm mistaken. I do recall we didn't give them a library to hide their crimes nor high dollar homes to hide in after they were finished.


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Message 1078653 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 4:52:10 UTC - in response to Message 1078645.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


Being willfully mislead and then passing on that misleading information as fact is about as close to lying directly as to make no discernible difference (outside of a courtroom).

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

Shouldn't have made any difference in the Senate either.

the funny thing is that people just as soon forget that Clinton clearly asks in his deposition if the investigation was using the Arkansas ruling as to what constituted sex. They said that they were.(apparently ignorant of what that may be) that ruling stated only vagina penetration constituted sex. So Clinton honestly told them he didn't have sex. His cigar did.

Also its funny what constitutes High crimes and what doesnt.

having sex with interns CHECK

Deliberately misleading the US, the UN, and the Coalition of a few into fighting a war on false pretenses. Presenting false evidence for that war. The Deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people from those lies. Didnt we hang a few folks after WWII for something similar... maybe I'm mistaken. I do recall we didn't give them a library to hide their crimes nor high dollar homes to hide in after they were finished.

The quote is from a TV address to the American public. And you are the one who said outside a courtroom.

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Message 1078781 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 14:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 1078653.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


Being willfully mislead and then passing on that misleading information as fact is about as close to lying directly as to make no discernible difference (outside of a courtroom).

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

Shouldn't have made any difference in the Senate either.

the funny thing is that people just as soon forget that Clinton clearly asks in his deposition if the investigation was using the Arkansas ruling as to what constituted sex. They said that they were.(apparently ignorant of what that may be) that ruling stated only vagina penetration constituted sex. So Clinton honestly told them he didn't have sex. His cigar did.

Also its funny what constitutes High crimes and what doesnt.

having sex with interns CHECK

Deliberately misleading the US, the UN, and the Coalition of a few into fighting a war on false pretenses. Presenting false evidence for that war. The Deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people from those lies. Didnt we hang a few folks after WWII for something similar... maybe I'm mistaken. I do recall we didn't give them a library to hide their crimes nor high dollar homes to hide in after they were finished.

The quote is from a TV address to the American public. And you are the one who said outside a courtroom.

and one can only assume that he was going, once again, by the standard that was seti in Arkansas. You forget that he is very smart about legalese


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Message 1078820 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 17:08:22 UTC

So in the scheme of things...I wonder how Bush ranks in the list of the biggest murderers in History. Do you think he makes the top 100?
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Message 1078825 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 17:19:03 UTC

History covers a long time and that 100 club may be beyond his accomplishments along that line during 8 years of madness.
There are some who've enjoyed a long lifetime of killing throughout history.
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Message 1078830 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 17:24:57 UTC - in response to Message 1078820.  

I don't think he even makes the top ten
Attila the Hun
Ghengis Khan
ROman empire conquests- Julius Caesar
Alexander the Great
An Nazi of Austrian birth
US policy towards American Indians/natives
Christopher Columbus
Kruschev/Mao's Korean war
Pizzaro
Stalin
lenin
The Khmer rouge
Chinese communist purges
Lyndon Johnson's Vietnam
...
BushI- desert storm I
Bush II


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Message 1078834 - Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 17:33:36 UTC - in response to Message 1078781.  

This is absolute proof that Bush didn't lie, but he was willing to be taken for a ride.


Being willfully mislead and then passing on that misleading information as fact is about as close to lying directly as to make no discernible difference (outside of a courtroom).

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

Shouldn't have made any difference in the Senate either.

the funny thing is that people just as soon forget that Clinton clearly asks in his deposition if the investigation was using the Arkansas ruling as to what constituted sex. They said that they were.(apparently ignorant of what that may be) that ruling stated only vagina penetration constituted sex. So Clinton honestly told them he didn't have sex. His cigar did.

Also its funny what constitutes High crimes and what doesnt.

having sex with interns CHECK

Deliberately misleading the US, the UN, and the Coalition of a few into fighting a war on false pretenses. Presenting false evidence for that war. The Deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people from those lies. Didnt we hang a few folks after WWII for something similar... maybe I'm mistaken. I do recall we didn't give them a library to hide their crimes nor high dollar homes to hide in after they were finished.

The quote is from a TV address to the American public. And you are the one who said outside a courtroom.

and one can only assume that he was going, once again, by the standard that was seti in Arkansas. You forget that he is very smart about legalese

Right, so smart he fails to realize he isn't in a courtroom any more with all the TV lights, cameras and microphones when he called a press event. As he is so smart he had to know he was in Washington DC, where the list from say 18 USC 2256 would be the acts covered as he was on Federal property and did the acts on Federal property. Stop spreading the fertilizer and realize Shrub was just following precedent.


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Message 1079464 - Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 17:44:00 UTC

To be fair...I honestly believe Bush was just a Puppet for Cheny...He is the real Murderer.
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Message 1079471 - Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 18:18:57 UTC - in response to Message 1079464.  

Did anyone else notice how much Dick Cheney resembled "Mr. Potter"
from "It's a wonderful life"?
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Message 1087981 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 4:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 1079471.  

Did anyone else notice how much Dick Cheney resembled "Mr. Potter"
from "It's a wonderful life"?

No.
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Message 1088091 - Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 15:35:34 UTC - in response to Message 1079471.  

Dick Cheney is a war criminal!
If he wants I will debate this with him
in say; Spain?
Just give me two days to get my visas in order,
I'll be there.
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