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Message 1076436 - Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 9:57:32 UTC
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Interessant und traurig zugleich.
Wir könnten viel weiter sein, wenn der gewaltige Büro apparat nicht alles blockieren würde.
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Message 1076710 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 6:18:54 UTC

Ich lese gerade "Roter Mars" ...gleiches Thema und sehr interessant.

Danke, wir sind gerade fuer ein paar Tage in Hongkong, ich liebe diese Stadt.


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Message 1076711 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 6:30:56 UTC
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And, I must ask again.....in this German based thread.

I don't speak the language......I suppose I should, as my grandparents came over from the fatherland.

But anyway.......

I would like to clear this up in my mind.

The song......Du Hast.....

The lyrics have been bandied about for years.

Hate? A man dissing his new wife?

I read many interpretations of it years ago.
I seem to recall a difference of the two basic words in the title...

You have.....or You hate....... it was never answered to my recollection.
The music is awesome. But what do the lyrics mean to those who have lived the language?

Please kindly inform the kittyman of the meaning in your tongue.

And if it's bad, I mean no disrespect.

I just need to know, please.

Sorry if I intruded on your space.

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Message 1076739 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 8:41:17 UTC - in response to Message 1076711.  

"You hate" would be written "Du hasst" (or "Du haßt" before the German orthography reform).

The translation of the whole line is
You have - You have asked me - You have asked me and I have said nothing.

So, it's definitely "You have", but I think Rammstein deliberately used the similarity of the two words for their purpose ;-)

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Message 1076740 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 8:51:23 UTC
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"Du hast" means you have.
"Du hasst mich" means you hate me.
"Du hast mich gefragt" you have asked me

Du,
du hast,
du hasst mich,

Du,
du hast,
du hasst mich,

Du,
du hast,
du hasst mich,

Du,
du hast,
du hasst mich,
du hasst mich
du hast mich gefragt
du hast mich gefragt
du hast mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt!

Willst du bis der Tod euch scheidet, treu ihr sein für alle Tage?
NEIN!


Will you be faithful until we die ?
no.
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Message 1076741 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 8:58:43 UTC

You are still bewildering me.

They sing..as best I can make out.
Du hast mich.......

So, they are saying you hate me then, right?

Not 'you have me'.....

I didn't know I was opening such a can of worms.
Or German linguistics.
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Message 1076742 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 9:00:28 UTC
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No Mark he sings

You have
You have
You have asked me
You have asked me, but i said nothing
You hate me.
You have
You have
You have asked me
You have asked me, but i said nothing
Will you be faithful until we die ?
no.

You hate me
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Message 1076745 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 9:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1076742.  


No Mark he sings

You have
You have
You hate me.


Ok.....that is muddled enough.

You have, you hate.

Both words and meanings.

No wonder I was befuddled.

Thanks for the explanation.....kinda.

LOL.
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Message 1076747 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 9:08:55 UTC

You expanded your last post.

That explains it a bit better.

Will you be faithful until we die?

No.

That explains the agnst of the whole song.

Question answered.
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Message 1076751 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 9:16:58 UTC

You are always welcome Mark.

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Message 1076755 - Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 9:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 1076751.  
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You are always welcome Mark.

Thanks......
I know my questions and logic can be bewildering at times.

That was one I just had to put away in my mind.

There are some questions that just keep me up at nights.
I can sleep better now.

My Purrball is nuzzling me now and beckoning me to bed.
I must put some more drops in my eye and follow her.
She will sleep on my chest most of the night.



Meow.
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Message 1077137 - Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 14:36:42 UTC

I guess that´s why they are artists and not attorneys at law.
Artists play with words and tools to create art. Art has a different meaning for everyone. If art moves lots of peoples heart and/or brains, the artists get famous and achieve success.
Attorneys at law just win [or lose] trials when applying rules and laws, which have to be very clear and without misunderstandings to everyone.
It is exactly the same stick but with opposed poles.
I have listened to some of their songs and I do not like them much...not my style.
One of the best German groups I really enjoyed is/was BAP, although they always sung slang [Kölsch/dialect from the city/region of Köln], which is hard to undestand if you are not a native German.

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Message 1077504 - Posted: 15 Feb 2011, 14:09:25 UTC

I am glad that you guys solved the language issue.
Ich bin grade in Shenzhen, auf dem Weg zurueck von Hongkong nach Shanghai. Heute scheint der Flug puenktlich zu sein.
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Message 1077506 - Posted: 15 Feb 2011, 14:14:38 UTC

Puenktliche Flieger? Wo gibts denn sowas ;)

Guten Flug!
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Message 1077510 - Posted: 15 Feb 2011, 14:26:14 UTC

na ich hoffe doch das es heute puenktlich los geht. Danke Carola.
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Message 1077627 - Posted: 15 Feb 2011, 21:23:33 UTC
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yahoo .. ich hab hergefunden .. hallo alle *wink* ;-)
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Message 1077681 - Posted: 15 Feb 2011, 23:55:19 UTC


Hallo Viciente.

Schön dich hier zu sehen.

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Message 1077697 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 0:14:19 UTC

hallo mike
vielen dank .. glaube auch, dass ich gern hier sein werde ..
liebe grüsse an alle!
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Message 1077795 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 5:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 1077697.  

Willkommen Vincente im Deutschen Haus.
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Message 1078324 - Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 16:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 1077795.  

hallo .. oder hi .. uli, wie immer du grade sprachlich eingestellt bist - und vielen dank.

ich versteh nicht so recht - oder besser steig aus - was da so viele glauben, dauernd motzen & "fighten" zu müssen. seit seti wieder online ist, hab ich ziemlich viel arbeit bekommen. logisch, dass die server zu sind, wenn alle nach neustart plötzlich draufhämmern.
aber zumindest hier .. läuft alles sehr gut; die maschinen sind ausgelastet, downloads suspenden manchmal .. na ja, und auch beta rechnet wie blöd.

herzliche grüsse an alle, chris.
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