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Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
Spock's mother's name is Amanda Grayson. She is a direct descendant of Richard Grayson, noted acrobat and crime fighter, ward of Bruce Wayne. Richard Grayson was a descendant of the famed John Clayton, Viscount Greystoke, via a grandson named William Grayson (nee Clayton) who dropped the Clayton name to avoid the notoriety that would come from being a descendant of Tarzan. William's brother Henry did the same, but chose the name Gray. Henry is the great grandfather of Gabriel Gray aka Sylar. What is not commonly known is that the "John Clayton" found living the jungle among the apes was not, in fact, the child of the prior Viscount Greystoke, but in fact a marooned Vulcan named Stoek. The people who found Stoek mistakenly assumed that by pointing at himself and identifying himself (in Vulcan) as "Stoek, son of T'zan" he was identifying himself as Tarzan of the house of Greystoke. Stoek found this a convenient fiction to allow him the resources to attempt to contact Vulcan. By the time he did so, he was quite involved in a personal relationship and the politics of Earth, and was requested by the Vulcan science academy to remain on earth as an observer prior to eventual first contact. And people say I'm losing touch with reality... @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
Virtual Boss* Send message Joined: 4 May 08 Posts: 417 Credit: 6,440,287 RAC: 0 |
Your post explains a lot ... :) |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13131 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
So this is what you've been up to instead of cleaning the den... |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
+5 points for mentioning Spock in a blog. +50 points for mentioning Bruce Wayne and Richard (Dick) Grayson. -25 points for mentioning Tarzan. -5 points for mentioning apes/monkeys. +100 for not mentioning robots, ninjas, pirates or pirated robotic ninjas. Yeah, I'm not your typical nerd. I gave you points for stuff that most others would take away points for not mentioning. The jury is still out on your lack of mentioning Chuck Norris and Mr. T. So far, you're ahead in my book. |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
No points for Vulcan spies inhabiting the Earth before "First Contact?" @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Oh, good one. +10 for that. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Now if you could tie in Duncan Macleods immortal girlfriend Amanda, Id give you 100 points. [/quote] Old James |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
What year was she born, and what year did she first suffer a "fatal" injury? @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
What year was she born, and what year did she first suffer a "fatal" injury? Im going to dig out that episode and watch it hope to have an answer in the morning. [/quote] Old James |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Amanda,born in 820 AD became immortal in 850 AD. Portrayed by actress Elizabeth Gracen, born as Elizabeth Grace Ward. [/quote] Old James |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
Obviously the actress is related to Spock and Tarzan. Do we know Amanda's original family name? Is it possible she is playing herself, and that she ended up in the past due to a time travel accident? @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Obviously the actress is related to Spock and Tarzan. Do we know Amanda's original family name? Is it possible she is playing herself, and that she ended up in the past due to a time travel accident? I googled her name up but as you know the 21st centurty so called internet leaves a lot to be desired. But it seems she never had a last name in the historical record. Plausible deniabillty , she was a smart woman after all. [/quote] Old James |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
I think that's clear evidence that Amanda and Elizabeth Graycen are the same person, and that a 22nd century warp field experiment was responsible for sending her back to about 840AD where she took the place of a non-immortal named Amanda, whom she closely resembled. That doesn't explain how she came to be immortal or how she managed to live to the 22nd century with her head still attached while all the other immortals were killed. Maybe she hadn't died the first time before the warp field experiment sent her back in time to become Amanda. Doesn't seem to be much of a genetic explanation for the immortality seen in the Highlander series, so the immortality is probably unrelated to her Vulcan heritage. @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Could it be that all the immortals are nothing more than warp field throwbacks ( so to speak )? and the quickening is just the warp field bubble collapsing? Sort of like the movie Matrix that if you think you are dead you are dead? [/quote] Old James |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
But the Matrix was just a holosuite simulation run at Quark's bar. Blasphemer! |
Virtual Boss* Send message Joined: 4 May 08 Posts: 417 Credit: 6,440,287 RAC: 0 |
But the Matrix was just a holosuite simulation run at Quark's bar. A virtual paradox? !!!! Quarks bar only exists in a fictional tale created to amuse the residents of the matrix. :) |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
I pity the fool that can't tie Mr. T into all this! So, how many points for that? |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I pity the fool that can't tie Mr. T into all this! This is going to be lame but here goes. Mr.T born Laurence Tureaud. May 21 1952 is really a Vulcan. his vulcan name is Tu-Reaud. He was sent to Earth 6 months after Arecibo pinged a few NEO's Yes those radar pulses got some attention. [/quote] Old James |
aad Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 101 Credit: 204,131,099 RAC: 26 |
I believe it when Oprah discussed it in her bookclub........ |
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