After all the fun I had with this I have a serious question.
What would you do if you find a bran new Commodore 64 in it's
original box in the attic ? Would you keep it sealed or would
you open it to have some fun ?

contras (sell it an drink a bear for the money, more you probaly wil not get)
- slow
- old
- perhaps not completed now, dataset, floppy 1541, printer
- perhaps low on software
- joystick stick by-able (si tus trouve)
- your pocket PC is faster and can wun word/excel/mail..

pros (you are very lucky to find a working 64...)
-fun
-silent
-easy to attach to a TV screen
-still a lot of software available with emulators over web
-serial port= telnet for up/download MAC or PC ready
-nostalgie
-use turbotape (25x as normal)
-not every one has one
-as mentioned a piece of "history"
(Are our oclocked noisi an hot running PC running in 25 years??)

and the last argument pros is

HAM

There are, I guess, still many HAM stations running one or more 64 (no vc20!!)

I was to silly to made the HAM licence, a collegue of me did it, he had a 64 an a HAM Programm, nit working well. Due it was basic, the code could be changed and "recompiled" for better german support. But I was a log time ago..

If you have place to keep it, why not keeping?

My really 64 is in the baseline, not "online" but I keep it as long its possible. Same for the amigas .

Salutations

ric

>SETI@home - 2004-10-06 23:00:35 - No tape recorders responded
LOL!
and a download for 1 wu will go 2 Hours?

> >SETI@home - 2004-10-06 23:00:35 - No tape recorders responded
> LOL!
> and a download for 1 wu will go 2 Hours?

Crunching time 127.83 years per WU

> > >SETI@home - 2004-10-06 23:00:35 - No tape recorders responded
> > LOL!
> > and a download for 1 wu will go 2 Hours?
>
> Crunching time 127.83 years per WU
>

ROTFL

You can use a fastest hard-disk to decrease the time per WU :D

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I still have a commodore 128, but haven't turned it on for a couple of years now.
My father (now in is 80's) still uses a C64 (he picked up a couple of sets from friends as they switched to PC's) to run a weather program I wrote in basic and compiled with PetSpeed more than 10 years ago.

Nothing is obsolete unless you make it so.

My first computer was a Commodore Pet 8K 1978 edition.

>Crunching time 127.83 years per WU

We started the multi project.
Now we start the multi generation Work.

Lets say one generation can do an manage the only wu for about 30 years.
127 / 30= about 4 generations

@petit soleil (little sun, or boy sun)
do work, produce children

your are the first generation
petit soleil

2nd
petit petit soleil

3rd
petit petit petit soleil

4th generation
petit petit petit petit soleil

(You will be gran-grandpapa)

so in about 120 year, the 4th generation will return the family Work Unit back,
the user will be named petit petit petit petit soleil
or if you prefere, petit^4 soleil.

Might we find ET before?

But probaly this will be done by the same c64.


on the other side, with a dual drive, (raidlevel =0), perhaps can be reduced to only 87,4 years cputime

you have to work now to build your children (-farm), and to manage, the children will do themself too.

> Since this board has replace the Question and problem
> I thought it would be the best place to ask. I have tried
> to install Windows and boinc on my Commodore 64
> and here's what I got. Any suggestions ?
>
>
>
I think the Commode Odor 64 is limited to windows 3.11, you might want to try Windows 95 on the Commode Odor 128.

10 goto 20
20 lprint "my first computer
30 go to 10

My First Puter,
Kinda sorta learned basic hehe
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Working in original box , with everything except the RF modulator That can be found at any radioshack. as is . I did hook it up to a tv and it came to the "Ready " prompt. Take it cheap ! good old fun toy.

Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5127789451&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

The TS 1000 was immediately successful, with over 550,000 sold in the six months from its launch in July 1982. This represented sales volume greater than those of Tandy, Apple and Commodore combined. By today's standards the TS 1000 is laughably primitive with only 1K of memory, no color or sound and a notably unresponsive touch-sensitive keyboard. Video was displayed on a television, and data storage was via a user supplied cassette recorder. Even by the standards of the time, its technology was basic, but this was the first truly affordable personal computer for many.

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This is a great example of why BOINC is open source. Someone get cracking on a version for the Commodore 64. Much better use of time than trying to get it to run on AIX, in my opinion.




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The game High/Low is played by tossing two nuclear warheads into the air. The one whose bomb explodes higher wins. This game is usually played by people of low intelligence, hence the name High/Low.

ROFL!!!! I have never laughed so hard reading a thread on this site until I read this one. This is totally hilarious!!!!

EDIT: My first 'puter was a Tandy Color Computer III (CoCo for short). 1.78 Mhz 68B09E Motorola CPU, 128K ram. Learned a little B.A.S.I.C (Beginners, All purpose, Symbolic, Instruction, Code) until I got a C compiler for my OS-9 Operating System (Not to be confused with Apple's OS9 OS). Apple just happened to hear from Microware, the company the produced OS-9, for calling theirs OS9.




Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better!

"There is no fate except that which we create for ourselves."

Live Long and Prosper....

You Commodore people are all the same. What we really need is BOINC and SETI compiled for the Atari 400/800, the 1040ST and MegaST4, and the Falcon030!! Then you'd see some REAL processing!

My first computer was a MITS Altair 8800b (S-100 bus), built from a kit during 1977 and 1978, around the same time as your Commodore Pet 8K 1978 edition, Seti-Seeker. I had a whole 16 Kbytes of RAM, an audio cassette, and a teletype machine for input and output. Toggle in the boot program on the front panel, then load the operating system from the audio casette drive. Hey, it worked!

Cheers,

Stephen

> You Commodore people are all the same. What we really need is BOINC and SETI
> compiled for the Atari 400/800, the 1040ST and MegaST4, and the Falcon030!!
> Then you'd see some REAL processing!
>
> My first computer was a MITS Altair 8800b (S-100 bus), built from a kit during
> 1977 and 1978, around the same time as your Commodore Pet 8K 1978 edition,
> Seti-Seeker. I had a whole 16 Kbytes of RAM, an audio cassette, and a teletype
> machine for input and output. Toggle in the boot program on the front panel,
> then load the operating system from the audio casette drive. Hey, it worked!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen


Maybe I should have mention I upgraded my PET to 16K. (I spent $500 and several months learn all about memory, designing and wiring a ram board with an extra 8k. Unfortunately, it died within a week and I spent $1000 on a C64 which had just become available.

One good thing about that old chicklet keyboard, I learned to type with one hand. A skill that serves well, even today, when visiting certain websites.

Any RadioShack TRaSh-80 computer users?

You silly people. For the answer, just go to Motown Records tech support, and enter "Commodores." When it asks what session you want, enter "SET-I." (Not SET J,K or L).

COMMODORES
Tuskegee, Alabama

Original Members:
Thomas McClary, Guitar
Lionel Richie, Saxophone
Milan Williams, Keyboards
Walter Orange, Drums
William King, Trumpet
Ronald LaPread, Bass

Other Members:
J.D. Nicholas
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I had a TI-99/A





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> I had a TI-99/A
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> Application has reported a 'Not My Fault' in module KRNL.EXE in line 0200:103F
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Here's a site for you.

http://www.mrousseau.org/programs/ti99sim/

my first pc was a vic20 lol
[url=http://usa.duane-n-lisa.net]

> I had a TI-99/A
>

d00d my first computer was a TI-99/A! I stil have it in the original box.

Hunt the Wumpus used to give me nightmares. Damn that Wumpus.




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The game High/Low is played by tossing two nuclear warheads into the air. The one whose bomb explodes higher wins. This game is usually played by people of low intelligence, hence the name High/Low.

> Any RadioShack TRaSh-80 computer users?
>
>

I still have a TRaSh-80 portable. About the size of todays laptops, but thicker, about 2 inces. Has a little LCD window about 6x3 inches for working in. Has a built-in 300 baud modem. I actually had it networked to my Color Computer and could run programs on the CoCo with the TRS-80 (poor man's remote computing?). Uses about 6 AA batteries for power. Uses a tape recorder for transfering programs in and out.

L8R....

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Rick A. - BOINCing right along now.... It can only get better!

"There is no fate except that which we create for ourselves."

Live Long and Prosper....

By Steve Wozniak

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First, I connected the 6502 to Static RAM and a video terminal of my own design. I then wrote a short "monitor" program to watch the keyboard and display characters, both under interrupt and polled. We didn't have 256 byte PROMS, just 256x4 PROMS at that time. I used two of the ones we burned for calculator development at HP. The first hardware bringup had a few frustrating hours but I got it working with polled keyboard that night.

I then wrote a 256 byte "Monitor" program which watched the keyboard for hex data entry (address:data data data) and hex display and program initiation ("Run"). I got very good at typing in hex and very very good at checking data entry carefully, character by character. I still can't read a credit card number without a high expectation of mistake, but I have good habits to this day.

Next, I switched to dynamic RAMs when someone at our club sold some for a couple of bucks each. After all, in 1975 these were the first RAMS cheaper than core memory, the 4K dynamics. I bought some 22 pin AMI ones, there were three vendors. Virtually none of the other hobby computers around that time used dynamic RAMs, I decided it was because of the hobbiest technician sense of most fans I met, they weren't true engineers. Also, they were familiar with low-cost routes like surplus stores where the favorite RAM was the 2102 static. But for me, designing for the dynamic RAM was a piece of cake and I had fun at that which I excelled, combining MSI chips in clever ways.

Steve Jobs asked what did I think of the Intel dynamic RAMs. I told him I felt they were the best. Although they required more driving circuitry for Row and Column addressing (not just a wire from the CPU for each address line) they were in a smaller package. I had for some time measured the worth of my IC designs in terms of how little board space they took, not how few chips. So these 16-pin Intel chips, plus some row/column multiplexers and timing signals, actually took less board space than the 22-pin AMI RAMS. And saved some transistor clock drivers as well. I felt we could never afford any Intel chip, having heard how the 8080 was $370. But Steve got a rep to give us 16 samples. So the Apple I started with the best possible RAM choice, even before it was certain how things would go with RAMs. When the 16K dynamics appeared in the Intel compatable format we were luckily on the right track.

The book "101 BASIC Games" made me think that the right higher level language for these low cost computers was BASIC, even though I'd never used it. I referred to an HP BASIC manual to develop my syntax diagrams. Hoping to be noted as the first with a 6502 BASIC, I left out floating point. But what I wanted was games, logic simulations, puzzle solving, etc. and integers are fine. Most of my college programming was numerics done with integer only operations for large accuracy.

I wrote the entire BASIC by hand with no assembler. I kept thousands of pages of my hand-done work from day one. The final Apple II Rom code was entirely done by hand and is in a notebook. The Apple II was the first product to ship with 2K Roms from Synertek. 4K total of code. I built in a disassembler and wrote a mini-assembler (no symbols, only absolute hex or decimal addresses and constants) which shipped either in the Apple II or in a later Rom addition.

My first "real" computer. Hello I am Macintosh...