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Voyager Send message Joined: 2 Nov 99 Posts: 602 Credit: 3,264,813 RAC: 0
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Am I ok at 61c? |
dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32
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That's higher than I'd feel comfortable at, but is it a B3 or G0 processor? -Dave
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John Clark Send message Joined: 29 Sep 99 Posts: 16515 Credit: 4,418,829 RAC: 0
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I have been running my QX6700 at 65C for months on all four cores, and it has been stable. Much hotter and it goes unstable. I plan to change the stock air cooling for something better, and will then push the clock back until I reach anout 60C. It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues
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Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0
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Am I ok at 61c? Well within spec. I ran mine at about that for 4 - 6 weeks without any problems but then changed out the Ninja cooler for a Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped the processor and the base of the heatsink before I put them together as well) and am now running below 50C, since the AS5 has bedded in. And that is with an increased clock rate. I prefer the extra headroom. F.
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Pilot Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 534 Credit: 5,475,482 RAC: 0 |
Am I ok at 61c? Intel spec for the Q6600 is 62C. Above that your milage may vary;) Be aware that temps can change by 2 or 3 C depending on the WU being processed. So that 61c may jump to 64C or more in the middle of the night while you are catching a few Zzzzzz. Good luck. When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again. |
Voyager Send message Joined: 2 Nov 99 Posts: 602 Credit: 3,264,813 RAC: 0
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That's higher than I'd feel comfortable at, but is it a B3 or G0 processor? It's a GO Ive' been bouncing all around , just got a temp prog I count on Core Temp no errors up to 3.4 @ 63c, but I have stock cooling, and got scaird? Running at 3.0 and 60c now. Today ordered a hsf and silver 5 I'll be bolder then,, Thanks for your temps, |
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nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
Gee and i was worried about 45C! |
Pilot Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 534 Credit: 5,475,482 RAC: 0 |
That's higher than I'd feel comfortable at, but is it a B3 or G0 processor? I am running thermaltake big thphoon for CPU cooling and a few extra fans for pumping cool air into the case and Hot air out. I am currently @ 3456Mhz with cpu temp at 52C and MB or system at 36C. MB is from ASUS P5K with suggested max system/MB temp of 45C The CPU is Core 2 Quatro G0. Memory is Corsair Twinx 8500 at 5,5,5,15. voltage for the memory is in auto and for the CPU it's at 1.45. I have been running without glitch for over 24 hours now. As the optimist said when passing the 5th floor of the Empire State Building after falling from the observation deck at the top, "So far so good".:) When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again. |
dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32
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That's higher than I'd feel comfortable at, but is it a B3 or G0 processor? The specs for the G0 are better, 71. In any case, better cooling for the CPU is a good thing, and like Pilot mentioned, there are other temps that you should also be careful of. You're more likely to damage the memory or motherboard from too much heat than the CPU if you're running close to the limits. -Dave
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Voyager Send message Joined: 2 Nov 99 Posts: 602 Credit: 3,264,813 RAC: 0
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What are you using to monitor system temps? I was dissapointed with speedfan and motherboard monitor,they seem to read about 10c low.Tat and Core Temp feel good but neither have system temps.And now I don't trust speedfan. |
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Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0
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What are you using to monitor system temps? I was dissapointed with speedfan and motherboard monitor,they seem to read about 10c low.Tat and Core Temp feel good but neither have system temps.And now I don't trust speedfan. I've found good agreement between Coretemp and Speedfan (incremented by 15C on the core temperatures). I don't take too much notice of the System temp (=Southbridge on my Asus P5B D/L WiFi MoBo) but the difference between the "CPU" reading and the "Core" readings in Speedfan (including that offset) is 7 - 8C which is as expected. The one reading I would like that isn't available on this MoBo is a Northbridge sensor as that can get very hot to the touch when overclocking. F.
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Voyager Send message Joined: 2 Nov 99 Posts: 602 Credit: 3,264,813 RAC: 0
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Here's whhat I have. What can I beleive? |
dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32
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In the advanced tab for Speedfan options, set the offset for each core of the CPU to 15, Speedfan by default is set for the 85 tjunctions, but the Q6600 has a 100 tjunction, so once you do that, they should be roughly the same, but possibly slightly different due to polling intervals. -Dave [edited for spelling...]
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archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0
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Here's whhat I have. What can I beleive? While the difference between the two applications is the infamous 15C ambiguity in divining Intel's intentions and mistakes, there is an additional probable error in random miscorrelation of the sensors. If you really want to know, you'll calibrate your own sensors. You can find some suggested methods online. My personal method was to remove the panelling from my CPU case. Turned it off for a half hour while running a large box fan directly into its side. Then, panels still off and fan still running, I booted, and made sure no optional aps were running and that all my PC fans were running at max (especially the CPU Heat Sink Fan). I believed the sensor temps a couple of minutes after the (power-consuming) boot should stabilize to very close to the ambient air temperature in the room, and used on SpeedFan 4.32 the Readings|Configure|Advanced|Chip:Intel CORE page to set offsets. For my sample of the Q6600 B3, this procedure caused me to set these offsets to: Temperature 1 Offset: 0 Temperature 2 Offset: 4 Temperature 3 Offset: 4 Temperature 4 Offset: 3 While the 15C matter gets a lot of attention, fewer folks seem to recognize that there is several degrees C of random scatter for specific sensors on samples of the same stepping. |
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Kim Vater Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 227 Credit: 22,743,307 RAC: 0
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Hi, I once again recommend that you read this fine guide to temp-measuring on Quads and Duo's. Regards Kim Greetings from Norway Crunch3er & AK-V8 Inside |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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Am I ok at 61c? That is the fan I am thinking about getting for my new Q6600 machine when I build it. Would you recommend it? Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32
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I certainly would reccomend the 120 Extreme. I have one machine with one of these, not lapped, though. It's running about 12-15 degrees cooler than the machine next to it that has a Zalman 9700 in it. Same boxes (P180Bs), different memory, the 120 extreme has faster memory, but they have the same amounts. Very similar components, though the 120 extreme one is currently using integrated video, the other is using an x1300 Pro card. I did have an x1300 Pro in the 120 extreme one for a while for testing, it only added about 1 degree overall, probably just because it messed with the airflow some. The 120 extreme box is also OC'd slightly higher than the other one (3120 vs. 3060). -Dave [edit] Oh, I hung an FM121 fan on the 120 exterme, FYI...
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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I certainly would reccomend the 120 Extreme. I have one machine with one of these, not lapped, though. It's running about 12-15 degrees cooler than the machine next to it that has a Zalman 9700 in it. Same boxes (P180Bs), different memory, the 120 extreme has faster memory, but they have the same amounts. Very similar components, though the 120 extreme one is currently using integrated video, the other is using an x1300 Pro card. I did have an x1300 Pro in the 120 extreme one for a while for testing, it only added about 1 degree overall, probably just because it messed with the airflow some. The 120 extreme box is also OC'd slightly higher than the other one (3120 vs. 3060). Thanks for the reply, Yep I will give it a try. I have never lapped a CPU or fan...Too Lazy I guess. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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Brbe Send message Joined: 21 Oct 01 Posts: 30 Credit: 5,266,835 RAC: 107
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dnolan Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32
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Brbe, if that were my Q6600 machine, I'd be looking for something wrong... that's way hot for not even OC'd, maybe the heatsink isn't seated properly? -Dave
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