And while I am at it, the provider for Sunet is TDC Song.

I am talking about wholesale, dedicated fully symmetric bandwidth. The other poster is referencing a retial, consumer service. It may be symmetric, but it cannot be compared to a dedicated service.

Wholesale service:
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Broadband service:
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1. Our service is guaranted in 100MB symmetric.
2. unrestricted
3. Subnet routable.
4. Not every possible speed available. For the moment there is an upper expansion limit at 10GB.

Anything else you need to know?

Swedish University Computer Network "backbone". OK. University networks might be a different beast compared to an usually sold whloesale service network.

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I have 100megs and pay just 480$ per year with free traffic.

In my country, you would more probably get some 10 MBit unrestricted symmetric optical for those bucks monthly.
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Peter

Yes they are.

But... They where cheapest;-)

Carl

And while I am at it, the provider for Sunet is TDC Song.

Providers for SUNet (a university network) include:

UUNet (then MCI now Verizon Business - largest one on the list)
NORDUnet (another university network)
ReTN
Rix|Port 80
maybe Stupi

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And while I am at it, the provider for Sunet is TDC Song.

Providers for SUNet (a university network) include:

UUNet (then MCI now Verizon Business - largest one on the list)
NORDUnet (another university network)
ReTN
Rix|Port 80
maybe Stupi

That was not entirely true.
The old GIGASunet was MCI, the new OPTOSunet is TDC Song.
NORDUnet is interconnected,
ReTN I don't know about
RiX|Port 80 is a small retail provider of bad broadband, where you picked them up I don't know. Perhap's they are bridging to some distant university unit in the bushlands.

BTW, why haven't you checked my IP? Then you wouldn't have needed to be snippy.

Yes they are.

But... They where cheapest;-)

Carl

It would make sense that a university\\government\\research network would operate differently (financially and network wise) than most other types of networks out there.

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I think we can agree on that.

Unt now for something completely annorlunda.

Carl

And while I am at it, the provider for Sunet is TDC Song.

Providers for SUNet (a university network) include:

UUNet (then MCI now Verizon Business - largest one on the list)
NORDUnet (another university network)
ReTN
Rix|Port 80
maybe Stupi

That was not entirely true.
The old GIGASunet was MCI, the new OPTOSunet is TDC Song.
NORDUnet is interconnected,
ReTN I don't know about
RiX|Port 80 is a small retail provider of bad broadband, where you picked them up I don't know. Perhap's they are bridging to some distant university unit in the bushlands.

BTW, why haven't you checked my IP? Then you wouldn't have needed to be snippy.

I didn't feel the need to get personal and ask for an IP. Your IP, however, would ensure that I'm looking at the right ASN. Research and education networks are sometimes confusing due to the nature of multiple networks.

http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/1/AS1653.htm

That shows the networks that are currently connected via BGP to SUNet. BGP is how the Internet connects each network to the next.

I don't know Swedish, so my research abilities of OPTOsunet is fairly limited.

BTW: Does anyone know why I can't copy or paste into the SETI message boards?

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Hard to answer. I assume that you are chatting from one of your XP SP 2s and not your Microsoft Windows 2003 Standard Server Edition, Service Pack 1, (05.02.3790.00).
If it is the XP SP2 it should work, I am using the same and I can do it. Might be that you have some settings that interfere or, that you are using a browser that doesn't handle S@Hs Message boards well.

Hope you get it running.

Carl

Could those posting in this thread clarify whether they are talking about symmetric download/upload links, please? The orginal discussion was with regard to the SETI labs, where the vast bulk of the bandwidth is used for outbound data. Anyone making comparisons with consumer services (esp. DSL) should remember that these are optimised for inbound traffic.

... and physical connections vs. hosting packages.

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BTW, why haven't you checked my IP? Then you wouldn't have needed to be snippy.

Because he can't see your IP. Only you can see your own addresses.

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Could those posting in this thread clarify whether they are talking about symmetric download/upload links, please? The orginal discussion was with regard to the SETI labs, where the vast bulk of the bandwidth is used for outbound data. Anyone making comparisons with consumer services (esp. DSL) should remember that these are optimised for inbound traffic.

... and physical connections vs. hosting packages.

Physical connections.

What do you mean by hosting packages? Where you have a 100 meg pipe, but only have so many gigs of transfer... or a shared 100 meg connection... or something else?

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Could those posting in this thread clarify whether they are talking about symmetric download/upload links, please? The orginal discussion was with regard to the SETI labs, where the vast bulk of the bandwidth is used for outbound data. Anyone making comparisons with consumer services (esp. DSL) should remember that these are optimised for inbound traffic.

... and physical connections vs. hosting packages.

Physical connections.

What do you mean by hosting packages? Where you have a 100 meg pipe, but only have so many gigs of transfer... or a shared 100 meg connection... or something else?

Usually, when someone says "free traffic" they're buying something other than raw bandwidth.

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Any official word on what current and previous connection sizes and costs are\\were?

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