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 Michael Roberts  Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 2588 Credit: 791,775 RAC: 0 
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These are direct replacements, for drives that are in Hardware RAID Arrays that connect to the Servers. The first thing is can a direct replacement be found... Then look for the best cost for a direct replacement... I have just ordered one to be sent direct to Berkeley. Shipping was $8. The price from Hyper Micro looks pretty good and the condition is "new" - many other suppliers have "refurbished" drives. If you're ordering from the United States you can use their web page, otherwise you will need to phone them - they have a calm and competent phone service. I'm sure that having one of "my" drives in the data processing setup will add to the fun of the project for me. Edit: the offer that Batman found is also for "new" drives. ID: 526984 ·  |
Pappa  Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 
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Batman Thank You, I will repost to allow a bit of cleanup... These are direct replacements, for drives that are in Hardware RAID Arrays that connect to the Servers. The first thing is can a direct replacement be found... Then look for the best cost for a direct replacement... Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 527027 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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We have a count of two... Thank You Michael for the one and Teamkiller for the other... The one direct link to hypermicro 73GB 10K U160 80P 16MB ST373405LCV The Links that Batman provided at eBay Check out this link on ebay for Krytens drives: 73GB 10K U160 80P 16MB ST373405LCV They are $75.00 each with 14.99[shipping for each drive](Requires Immediate Payment), He offers a "Best Offer" type of Buy It now and that can be lower of course than the initial $75.00 and the seller has 100 of these drives. The Seller charges sales tax for items shipped to: IL (7.500%).  The auction is good for another 9 days, 3 hours and less than 23 minutes. :D Used: SEAGATE 73GB 73 GB ST373405LCV HOT SWAPPABLE SCSI DRIVE for $60.00 they have 9 and they are said to be in Like New Condition "- GUARANTEED FOR 15 DAYS!!!" or used and they also have a Best Offer too, Shipping IS $10 FIRST DRIVE PLUS $3 EACH ADDITIONAL DRIVE ANYWHERE IN CONTINENTAL US. [/quote] without wanting to sound overbearing, if you have something and needed to see about getting shipped Eric... Please take a moment to email me and I will get you the shipping address and let Eric know things are on there way... He also gets a copy of what is happening so that he knows when to walk down to the loadig dock... al.setiboinc (at) gmail.com Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 527028 · |
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Hofman's Atlantic Send message Joined: 6 Jan 05 Posts: 32 Credit: 11,359,969 RAC: 0
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Papa: Could you post the addy of Seti@home shipping dock? ID: 527949 · |
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Swibby Bear Send message Joined: 1 Aug 01 Posts: 246 Credit: 7,945,093 RAC: 0
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We don't get western digital drives at this point. Eric should check me on this, but I believe he discovered a major firmware bug on those drives which cause data corruption when doing large-scale memory mapping to files on linux systems, and as far as we know this hasn't been corrected yet. So not very useful with large-scale databases like ours. In the April 2007 issue of "Maximum PC" magazine, page 19, there is info that a firmware update is now available for the Western Digital "YS" models to fix the RAID dropouts. Go to www.westerndigital.com, click Support, search knowledgebase for WD5000YS, answer ID Item 1493, will give more info on the issue and a link to the firmware update. Maybe this will cure the problem you speak of. Cheers - Whit ID: 528296 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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Hofman's Atlantic Sorry for the delay I actually called Eric and asked, currently he would still appreciate "not publicly" posting the shipping address. You are welcome to email Eric whose email address is: korpela (at) ssl.berkeley.edu just - replace the (at) with the "Shift Number 2" on the keyboard. Unfortunately it has been heavily SPAMMED and he has a filter in place that you have to respond to in order to get through. It can be done! It takes a bit of time... The other alternative is if you email me and say you want to ship "this item" I will reply with a copy to Eric and give you the email address... It also gives Eric the chance to reply without the spam filter headaches... My public email address is al.setiboinc (at) gmail.com Papa: Could you post the addy of Seti@home shipping dock? Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 528304 · |
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HTH Send message Joined: 8 Jul 00 Posts: 691 Credit: 909,237 RAC: 0 
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I would have recommended Maxtor; however, as Seagate has taken over Maxtor recently, I am hesitant to make such a recommendation. In my experience, and from friends' and colleagues' experiences with Seagate Drives - they tend to fail early and have even greater Dead In Box issues. I myself have had many such experiences in the past, and this has left a very VERY bad taste in my mouth pertaining to Seagate. No, no, no! Maxtor is probably the only brand that should be totally avoided. I bought an quality-Maxtor HDD a year ago and I sent it back to the shop a week ago, because there were bad sectors and bad S.M.A.R.T.-values. Maybe Seagate will make Maxtor a somewhat better in the future, but I would not count on it. Please, do yourselves a favour and do not buy Maxtor HDDs.  Manned mission to Mars in 2019 Petition <-- Sign this, please. ID: 528717 · |
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Paul Cushing Send message Joined: 22 Feb 07 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,260,385 RAC: 46
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How many of these do you still need? Would you rather NEW or USED? thanks We have a count of two... Thank You Michael for the one and Teamkiller for the other... without wanting to sound overbearing, if you have something and needed to see about getting shipped Eric... Please take a moment to email me and I will get you the shipping address and let Eric know things are on there way... He also gets a copy of what is happening so that he knows when to walk down to the loadig dock... al.setiboinc (at) gmail.com [/quote] ID: 531341 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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Paul We are down to two of those... If they are new, then they have full warrenty. I am still looking to find the Fiberchannel drives Those will be between 6-8 Thank You How many of these do you still need? Would you rather NEW or USED? thanks [/quote] Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 531356 · |
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Adam Weichel Send message Joined: 30 Jul 02 Posts: 22 Credit: 25,877,509 RAC: 46 
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I'm kinda waylaid at the moment for cash, but once I reclaim some money I've loaned the government for free, I plan on helping out with RAM or HDDs. Sorry that I've been incommunicado for a while, things are heating up here at work. Keep crunching folks! Computer nut, Distributed Computing freak, Jeeper and Dodge Ram driver. Life is worth living... and worth discovering. I run VMWare ESXi Free - why don't you? ID: 531701 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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For the moment we are working through things... The fiber channel drives are causing a bit of a headache... I'm kinda waylaid at the moment for cash, but once I reclaim some money I've loaned the government for free, I plan on helping out with RAM or HDDs. Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 531812 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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I spoke with Eric briefly this morning... The work to get Bruno ready to move into place is going slow... See Matt's Tech News entry Happy Ides (Mar 15 2007) states that the issue may be solved... Eric also mentioned for the first time in a while, they have been working to make just about all the Red Lights go away... Other resources are coming to a point that while things in most cases are not New... They are becoming more reliable again. Thanks to "many people," Bruno is a dual 2.8Ghz Xeon the 12 Gig of RAM and the last couple of drives will be in place shortly. So as the file copy, is now working properly... We should see good things during the next Weekly Outage... A User came up with enough Sata drives to solve that part of the issue... Thank You! Thank You to Everyone that has found "something," It shows the Spirit of those that Believe in Seti! Many do not want their names displayed... Regards Pappa Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 531829 · |
OzzFan     Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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I would have recommended Maxtor; however, as Seagate has taken over Maxtor recently, I am hesitant to make such a recommendation. In my experience, and from friends' and colleagues' experiences with Seagate Drives - they tend to fail early and have even greater Dead In Box issues. I myself have had many such experiences in the past, and this has left a very VERY bad taste in my mouth pertaining to Seagate. Oh, I don't know about that. I've been buying Maxtor for over twelve years and have yet to have one fail on me. Now Western Digital is another story. I have about twenty drives I've had to replace out of systems (or some that I bought myself giving WD a try) that all went into the garbage. The only other brands that I actually trust are Fujitsu, IBM and Seagate (in order of least to most favored). ID: 531857 · |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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I would have recommended Maxtor; however, as Seagate has taken over Maxtor recently, I am hesitant to make such a recommendation. In my experience, and from friends' and colleagues' experiences with Seagate Drives - they tend to fail early and have even greater Dead In Box issues. I myself have had many such experiences in the past, and this has left a very VERY bad taste in my mouth pertaining to Seagate. So what you're trying to say is that all hard drives fail, huh? lol Never had a Hitachi, but I've had Fujitsu (and some have failed) and IBM (less have failed). WD just has to be the worse when it come to all the hard drives I've gone through in the many years I've been tinkering with computers. You couldn't pay me to take one! Come to think of it, I had some Maxtor drives back in '89 that I still have in some of my older systems today that are still working. That's about 18 years ago! Too bad Maxtor was bought out, though at least they live on in Seagate (which is why they're my new most trusted HDD manufacturer). ID: 532021 · |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28
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Drive makers have bad batches, I've had the Raptors since Nov 2007, No problems. 10,000rpm and sata, nice. To each their own. Yeah, unfortunately Maxtor never recovered their reputation from their bad batches. Though I've never actually encountered any of their infamous bad drives, plenty people apparently have and it has stuck with them long enough to kill the reputation of the company. I would've rather seen it happen to WD though. From my experience they should've been the ones bought out and confined to the footnotes in history. ID: 532063 · |
Dr. C.E.T.I.  Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0
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note: jumpin' in here for a moment Regarding SEAGATE & WD . . . i personally have NEVER had a problem with EITHER of these Drives safe when i used the WRONG CABLE - the latest cables (without LIGHTS please) worked like a charm . . . compatiblity issues w/ cables were THE ONLY Problems i ever encountered . . . well - baCk ta Y'All . . . thought i might mention this! [edit note] i always bought the Drives in California and now in North Carolina for the Past 4 Years . . . ID: 532133 · |
RandyC  Send message Joined: 20 Oct 99 Posts: 714 Credit: 1,704,345 RAC: 0
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Drive makers have bad batches, I've had the Raptors since Nov 2007, No problems. 10,000rpm and sata, nice. To each their own. I see you must have a time machine also... ;-) ID: 533442 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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I wam not sure what this has to do with What is Needed! If it makes you feels good then so be it... User hardware versus Server hardware... What is posted, is what Seti needs... and there is a lot of email back and forth that you do not know about... Stupid, Me I am only the messenger... Thank You, to those that have responded and the 20th we will see changes... Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 533446 · |
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Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0
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Evening Everyone I received a copy of this Email this afternoon... Quote Hello hardware donors, I've BCCed you all on this so as not to violate the anonymity of those that wish to remain anonymous. Thanks to your donations, kryten is officially out of the mix, having been replaced by "bruno" the dual 2.8GHz Xeon with 12GB RAM, 6x73GB SCSI drives in a 2U case with 12x37 GB external FiberChannel drives. This should help us avoid all of the upload problems we've had over the last several months. You all had a part in this. We couldn't have done it without you. Thank you! Eric End Quote Thank You Everyone! Edit: Those donations represented around $6000 (known and unkown) Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. ID: 534868 · |
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nelson Send message Joined: 28 Mar 07 Posts: 1 Credit: 62 RAC: 0 
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I'm join in this projiect since 2007 ID: 537838 · |
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