I was hoping to say something deep and poignant for my first post on this forum, but I'm too busy to come up with anything. So here's a comprehensive list of what's currently on my iPod, so you know what I'm listening to on my walk to/from the lab, listed in the semi-alphabetical order the iPod prefers:

5UU's, Azita, Bob Drake, Brass Monkey Brass Band, Bread Winner, Cheer-Accident, The For Carnation, Happy Family, Herbie Hancock, Il Berlione, Jaga Jazzist, Jim O' Rourke, Koenjihyakkei, Motorpsycho, National Health, Of Montreal, Sam Prekop, Shellac, Shipping News, Sleeping People, Spezza Rotto, Steely Dan, Stickmen, Sufjan Stevens, Sun Ra, Thom Yorke.

Actually, this isn't comprehensive - I left off all the songs which I need to learn for upcoming gigs, or songs by myself or my own bands, which are on there for reference or vanity.

- Matt

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songs by myself or my own bands

Are you working on getting a record deal perhaps?

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Read carefully those names he is trying to tell about himself in Music Names Coded Way perhaps one day another genuis cruncher might decode these names into personal background. :D

It is nice to know what music do you like! plus who are you :-)

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Bob Drake? Wow he taught me circuts, electronics, and controls. Heck of a brain! I wish i knew half of what he has forgotten.

I did not know he put out any music though... unless those are lectures your listening to.
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I was hoping to say something deep and poignant for my first post on this forum, but I'm too busy to come up with anything. So ...

- Matt

That in itself is Poignant enough! :-)

Happy Hackings,

Regards,
Martin

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Steely Dan is the only artist that Matt mentioned that I recognize. "Do It Again" and "Reeling in the Years", both from 1973, are the only songs that I remember from him. It would be nice to know what would happen if I had an iPod full of fifties and the thing broke. Would I be out both the cost of the songs and the player, or would those songs be capable of being copied (beforehand) to a CD or DVD and then, if the iPod broke, to another iPod (or other player)?

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I've heard of Steely Dan..but the rest?...no.

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Steely Dan is the only artist that Matt mentioned that I recognize. "Do It Again" and "Reeling in the Years", both from 1973, are the only songs that I remember from him. It would be nice to know what would happen if I had an iPod full of fifties and the thing broke. Would I be out both the cost of the songs and the player, or would those songs be capable of being copied (beforehand) to a CD or DVD and then, if the iPod broke, to another iPod (or other player)?

Clyde...iPods usually contain a copy of what's already on your computer. It's either a full copy if the total fize sizes of the songs < the iPod's capacity or a user-definable subset if total file size > iPod capacity.

For example, my first iPod had a dead HD after about 3 months. Got it replaced at the local Apple Store. When I connected it to the computer at home, all songs were re-synchronized.

Now if the HD on the computer dies...But we all have current backups, right?

QS

I've heard of Steely Dan..but the rest?...no.

Not even Herbie Hancock or Sun Ra? I admit most of the others are unfamiliar to me. From those I do recognize, I get the impression that Matt especially appreciates “musicians’ musicians”.

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Now if the HD on the computer dies...But we all have current backups, right?

Backups are something people never have the time to do because of all the disk crashes...

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Now if the HD on the computer dies...But we all have current backups, right?

Backups are something people never have the time to do because of all the disk crashes...

There's the well worn saying:

"There are two types of people in the world: Those whom do backups and those whom have never had a disk fail..."

Backups are a good idea, doing them is an even better idea! ;-)

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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I've heard of Steely Dan..but the rest?...no.

Not even Herbie Hancock or Sun Ra? I admit most of the others are unfamiliar to me. From those I do recognize, I get the impression that Matt especially appreciates “musicians’ musicians”.

I didn't notice Herbie Hancock in that list...he apparently took quite a shine to a jazz singer friend of mine despite being over 2x her age. (I suspect it was her introducing herself with the immortal line "Do you need a hand, cock?" - cock is how Londoners used to address each other, but it is a bit dated now)

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Steely Dan is the only artist that Matt mentioned that I recognize. "Do It Again" and "Reeling in the Years", both from 1973, are the only songs that I remember from him. It would be nice to know what would happen if I had an iPod full of fifties and the thing broke. Would I be out both the cost of the songs and the player, or would those songs be capable of being copied (beforehand) to a CD or DVD and then, if the iPod broke, to another iPod (or other player)?

Clyde...iPods usually contain a copy of what's already on your computer. It's either a full copy if the total fize sizes of the songs < the iPod's capacity or a user-definable subset if total file size > iPod capacity.

For example, my first iPod had a dead HD after about 3 months. Got it replaced at the local Apple Store. When I connected it to the computer at home, all songs were re-synchronized.

Now if the HD on the computer dies...But we all have current backups, right?

QS

Thanks, OSilver. I had always thought that iPod stuff was proprietary and that there was a very good possibility that iTunes could not be stored on CDs or DVDs and then copied from them to an iPod. Yes, I'm afraid that either the iPod or the computer hard disc would fail. Also the hard disc which would receive the songs is only 80 GB and I might want to take the songs entirely off the hard disc. I even might want to copy the CDs, DVDs, etc every 10 years to preserve those songs 'til I die, hopefully more that 30 years off. I just downloaded the iPod software yesterday and will study it over, but I dont have confidence that it will tell me anything about the "copiability" of these songs. I might buy 3,000 or more songs for $2970 or more if I am confident.

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Thanks, OSilver. I had always thought that iPod stuff was proprietary and that there was a very good possibility that iTunes could not be stored on CDs or DVDs and then copied from them to an iPod. Yes, I'm afraid that either the iPod or the computer hard disc would fail. Also the hard disc which would receive the songs is only 80 GB and I might want to take the songs entirely off the hard disc. I even might want to copy the CDs, DVDs, etc every 10 years to preserve those songs 'til I die, hopefully more that 30 years off. I just downloaded the iPod software yesterday and will study it over, but I dont have confidence that it will tell me anything about the "copiability" of these songs. I might buy 3,000 or more songs for $2970 or more if I am confident.

Clyde, pardon me if I'm belaboring the obvious...do you already own music CDs? Are any / all of them ripped to a computer? You can either rip them directly with iTunes or have iTunes copy them into its music libray. When I first started using iTunes almost 4 years ago, I ripped a total of around 1300 songs from about 200 CDs. The default MP4/AAC format for iTunes is a pretty good compromise between file size and quality (and higher, even lossless, sampling rates are available). My home computer is about 4 years old and, like yours, has an 80GB HD. I've purchased 250-300 songs from the iTunes Store (total includes some *free* singles of the week). With that music library, all the standard sorts of apps & files that you'd find on a non-techie's computer (and including a 2-hour 25GB movie ripped from a digital camera that I need to finish editing one of these days), I still have around 20GB free. Of course, music files ripped at higher sampling rate (or lossless copies) would take up significantly more space.

The entire music libray fits on a three-year-old iPod with plenty of room to spare. It's a third generation model with a 20GB HD. The music takes around 6-7GB. That's without podcasts. I also have backed up critical files on it , such as Quicken data and important ongoing personal projects. I also have a 4GB iPod nano that my primary playlist, some photos, and a couple of podcasts that I subscibe to (subscribe but they're free).

HTH
Q

Matt - see Of Montreal Comment in The Outsider's Inside View - post#001

Yeah.. I listened to a lot of random things all my life, have a ridiculously large CD/vinyl collection, did college radio back in the day, know a lot of musicians locally and around the country.. so I get to find out about the good stuff which most people, alas, will never hear. Steely Dan is a guilty pleasure (hard to escape growing up in the 70's as a keyboardist near NYC). Only have one Hancock CD on there and of course it's an oddball rarity (Sextant).

I have little patience for radio-friendly/MTV pop. I've been playing music and composing all my life so I'm rather "fluent" in the language. This isn't bragging - this would be the same of anybody speaking any language several hours every day for over 30 years. I imagine when hearing somebody talk in your native language, you can immediately tell if the person is lying, or has nothing really interesting to say. Well, similarly, all I need is a few seconds listening to a song and I got most of the whole story. 99.9% of pop music has nothing to say - the music element is just a small part of the whole entertainment "package" which includes the videos, the elaborate packaging and marketing, the cult of personality behind the "artist" etc. While I still find all that fascinating, and sometimes buy into it in some form or another, I generally find that "music industry" is far more industry than music. So be it. One thing I've learned in life is that 90-95% of anything is crap.

- Matt

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One thing I've learned in life is that 90-95% of anything is crap.

Pretty fair assessment of life.

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