And that doesn't cut it for either side... ;)

Then why do you quote meaningless passages from your book?

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Brain blocks objectivity in favor of beliefs

The result reflects a larger phenomenon in which people routinely discount information that threatens their preexisting beliefs, said Emory University psychologist Drew Westen, who has conducted brain-scan experiments that show partisans swiftly spot hypocrisy and inconsistencies -- but only in the opposing candidate.
When presented with evidence showing the flaws of their candidate, the same brain regions that Kaplan studied lighted up -- only this time partisans were unconsciously turning down feelings of aversion and unpleasantness.
"The brain was trying to find a solution that would get rid of the distress and absolve the candidate of doing something slimy," Westen said. "They would twirl the emotional kaleidoscope until it gave them a picture that was comfortable."

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Now we know... ;)

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The result reflects a larger phenomenon in which people routinely discount information that threatens their preexisting beliefs

Threaten my beliefs? With the rubbish you people spout? Surely you jest... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

The result reflects a larger phenomenon in which people routinely discount information that threatens their preexisting beliefs

Threaten my beliefs? With the rubbish you people spout? Surely you jest... ;)

I don't think he's jesting....and don't call me Shirley. :-)

With the rubbish you people spout?

I think you mean with the logic we spout.

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Some Bible contridictions for you to think about.

ON THE POWER OF GOD
"... with God all things are possible." -- Matthew 19:26

"...The LORD was with Judah; and he Judah drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19

With God all thing are possible...

With Judah not all things are possible...

Now I see your 'logic'... Err, rubbish...

Want me to tackle another one of your 'contradictions'? ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

I'm not following you there, Jeffrey.

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

Jeffrey. With god all things are possible. God was with Judah but Judah was unable to drive out the inhabitants of the valley. Therefore not all things are possible with god. Read it again

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Read it again

Judges 1:17-19

And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they defeated the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. So the name of the city was called Hormah. Judah also took Gaza with its territory, and Ash'kelon with its territory, and Ekron with its territory. And the LORD was with Judah, and he took possession of the hill country, but he could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain, because they had chariots of iron.

If you read the entire passage you will see that 'the LORD was with Judah' was commentary inserted by the author of the book, Moses, for the purpose of explaining the reason for Judah's winning streak in battle. Obviously, God did not desire for Judah to drive out the inhabitants of the plain...

Reading comprehension people, reading comprehension... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

One for the silence: Interview

Some Bible contridictions for you to think about.

ON THE POWER OF GOD
"... with God all things are possible." -- Matthew 19:26

"...The LORD was with Judah; and he Judah drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19

With God all thing are possible...

With Judah not all things are possible...

Now I see your 'logic'... Err, rubbish...

Want me to tackle another one of your 'contradictions'? ;)

Religion is not about "Logic". Its about belief.

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Some Bible contridictions for you to think about.

ON THE POWER OF GOD
"... with God all things are possible." -- Matthew 19:26

"...The LORD was with Judah; and he Judah drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19

With God all thing are possible...

With Judah not all things are possible...

Now I see your 'logic'... Err, rubbish...

Want me to tackle another one of your 'contradictions'? ;)

Religion is not about "Logic". Its about belief.

My Boss told me a few weeks ago: Religion is about belief. And belief means you dont know. So, who knows?
I cant share this!!

Right, Es99.

Actually, I get it more than you think... Muslims follow both the Qur'an and the Bible and believe that Jesus and Mohammed are prophets.
Christians believe that Jesus is the son of god. They do not accept Mohammed as a prophet....

So basically, jeffrey believes in two contradictory precepts at once.

Only the irrational could do it!

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Never Forget a Friend. Or an Enemy.

Right, Es99.

Actually, I get it more than you think... Muslims follow both the Qur'an and the Bible and believe that Jesus and Mohammed are prophets.
Christians believe that Jesus is the son of god. They do not accept Mohammed as a prophet....

So basically, jeffrey believes in two contradictory precepts at once.

Only the irrational could do it!

I'm confused.....is Jeff claiming to be a muslim and a christian? Which ever you are, as long as you beleive in One God and are devoute to the scriptures (without changes) you are heaven bound.

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Christians have differing world views

KATHLEEN PARKER
ORLANDO SENTINEL

August 6, 2006

These are rich times for conspiracy theorists, and the mother lode these days may be found in the fevered minds of anti-Christianists.

Among paranoiacs who see a Jerry Falwell or a John Hagee in every burning bush, U.S. support for Israel isn't about protecting the only healthy democracy in the Middle East, but about advancing Armageddon and, yes, the Second Coming.

At last, we'll get to know what Jesus would drive. Most likely, he'd drive out the conspiracy theorists on both sides of this imagined apocalypse.

For those who do not spend their days pulling imaginary bugs out of their eye sockets, “Christianist” is a relatively new term that roughly refers to a virulent strain of right-wing political Christianity that, supposedly, parallels Islamist lunacy.

Although both groups may be “true believers,” those who try to connect the dots of Christian belief, specifically evangelical Christianity, to Islamism seem willing to overlook the fact that Islamists praise Allah and fly airplanes into buildings while Christianists praise Jesus and pass the mustard.

And though both groups of people may use scripture to shape their approach to the public square, Islamist interpretation of doctrine permits religious expression through suicide-murder, beheadings, public stonings (preferably of women) and Jew-hating, while Christianist doctrine deals in such wimpy notions as forgiveness, tolerance, redemption and cheek-turning. Weirdos.

A slew of new books have emerged with such titles as “American Theocracy” and “Kingdom Coming” that tackle the perceived emerging Christocracy, while op-ed-ists opine that right-wing evangelicals are directing foreign policy through the White House. Words such as “theocrats” and “American Taliban” have become commonplace in describing those who fill televangelism's La-Z-Boys.

Certainly, there's an element among some Christians who believe that Armageddon and the Second Coming are related to current events in the Middle East. For instance, John Hagee, televangelist and pastor of an 18,000-member mega-church in San Antonio, specifically believes that Israel has to strike Iran's nuclear facilities in order to move things along toward Jesus' new millennial reign.

And though life may get messy for a time, all's well that ends well. Once Jesus gets back on board, Russia and China will have been dealt with, the Garden of Eden will reopen for business, and the righteous will rule the nations of the Earth. ACLU, beware.

Doubtless Hagee holds his audiences in thrall, but that audience does not happen to include George W. Bush or even (cue thunderclouds) Karl Rove. Nor millions of other Christians. Despite what the anti-

Christianists seem to believe, the evangelical movement is not monolithic on such issues and Hagee doesn't have an office in the State Department.

In fact, at one White House meeting with about 35 evangelical leaders, one participant told me Hagee said nary a word. Even if he had, no one in the Bush administration is listening.

“You can be sure that Condi Rice is not reading Tim LaHaye books,” says Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center and director of its Evangelicals in Civic Life program. LaHaye is author of the best-selling apocalyptic “Left Behind” series.

The Armageddonists, meanwhile, are suffering from what Cromartie calls “overheated eschatological expectations.”

“That means, they're always looking through world events for some signs of the End Times. . . . If they want to spend their time worrying about that, fine. I'm pretty content to sit here and wait it out.”

At least part of what's behind the anti-Christianist movement, of course, is dislike of Bush, who happens to be a born-again Christian, combined with angry opposition to the war in Iraq, as well as contempt for the anti-intellectualism of some on the Christian right – a perfect storm of secular disgust.

What's missing, however, is a basic understanding of reality: The fact that those who preach an End Times scenario also voted for Bush does not necessarily mean that they have Bush's ear. When someone such as Hagee sends a smoke signal to the White House about Israel and Armageddon, the attitude at Pennsylvania Avenue is, “Oh yeah, John, we're aware of that, thank you.”

In other words, pro-Israel policy decisions are based on our long-standing support of America's democratic ally in the Middle East, not some theological imperative as divined through an eschatological grid. Or even an “8” ball.

Nevertheless, Republicans are happy to get votes where they can. Which is to say: If Hagee were urging his congregation to tithe money to fight global warming based on some apocalyptic interpretation of Scripture, does anyone really think that Al Gore would decline the check?

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Man, misfit, your avater is really disturbing this time. You're really giving the impression that you're 'the perv' allright.

I think you need to be investigated to make sure you're not some kind of child molester or something.

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Never Forget a Friend. Or an Enemy.

Man, misfit, your avater is really disturbing this time. You're really giving the impression that you're 'the perv' allright.

I think you need to be investigated to make sure you're not some kind of child molester or something.

Chuck, what does that have to do with the point the article he posted makes?

Man, misfit, your avater is really disturbing this time. You're really giving the impression that you're 'the perv' allright.

I think you need to be investigated to make sure you're not some kind of child molester or something.

Chuck, what does that have to do with the point the article he posted makes?

Moderator Ageless once called Chuck a man-lover and he never lived it down.
Here's a special profile for you, Chuck.

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me@rescam.org

MF..
Your link reminded me
Just how much I miss St Barts.
Damn
I've gotta get back down that way.
...cc