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Okay, so when you recall the bonds, what are you going to pay the principle with?? GOLD or 'cash' (what the hell, just print some more!). That and gutting the even larger direct entitlements budget. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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And yet another conservative imitator... I have long been interested in why the names Countries give themselves are invariably at odds with the actual status quo: United (as in 'Kingdom' and 'States') are anything but "United" Democratic and Republic ( as in Congo) is anything but Democratic or Republican Peoples Democratic Republic (as in N. Korea and Lao) are even further off the mark ... etc etc ... In fact, I cannot think of one country (which appends one or more adjectives to its Name) which is a fair description of that Country ... with the exception of "The Islamic Republic (as in Iran and Pakistan etc). (And why the US wishes to make Iraq a democracy still baffles the cr*p out of me, especially in that it [US] has singularly failed to practice "Democracy" at home.) That's my two-pennorth ... ;-))))))))) |
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(And why the US wishes to make Iraq a democracy still baffles the cr*p out of me, especially in that it [US] has singularly failed to practice "Democracy" at home.) Which, of course, it has never tried to do, ever. Should it ever, I would be the first one out the door. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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Which, of course, it has never tried to do, ever. Should it ever, I would be the first one out the door. I find that reply somewhat quaint ... since it was the stated intent of GWB in the early days of the War (along with removal of WMD). [thinks] Do people not read and assimilate the news any more? Ah! well! ... maybe the news ought to be disseminated in shorter sound-bytes so as to cater for people's decreasing attention span[/thinks] |
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Which, of course, it has never tried to do, ever. Should it ever, I would be the first one out the door. There is a difference between political rhetoric and reality. The U.S. has never been a pure "democracy" nor was it ever set up to be. Neither has it tried to do that to Iraq, either. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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There is a difference between political rhetoric and reality. The U.S. has never been a pure "democracy" nor was it ever set up to be. Neither has it tried to do that to Iraq, either. The truth usually comes out (20 years after it doesn't matter any more). How does someone distinguish between political rhetoric and what politicians mean, it certainly seems as if the word rhetoric is another term for lie. Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. |
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There is a difference between political rhetoric and reality. The U.S. has never been a pure "democracy" nor was it ever set up to be. Neither has it tried to do that to Iraq, either. I shall treat that with the complete and utter contempt it deserves. It is obvious that you not only hide behind an alter-ego, you are an ostrich who hides behind an alter ego. If you wish to show any scholarship at all, then wake up and smell the roses ... that is the ones which have been left undamaged by your Commander in Chief. (They are few and far between ... and it will entail a great deal of application on your behalf to remember what a rose actually smells like.) |
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There is a difference between political rhetoric and reality. The U.S. has never been a pure "democracy" nor was it ever set up to be. Neither has it tried to do that to Iraq, either. What the hell are you even talking about? There is no alter ego here, my wife knows me as Rush, my friends all call me Rush, it isn't some internet handle. It's a nickname I've used continuously since 1991. Suprisingly enough, Dubya probably knows that the U.S. has always been a constitutionally-limited representative republic, not a democracy. Like him or hate him, he also knows that "constitutionally-limited representative republic" doesn't sound-bite well, plenty of people won't understand it, and that those same people will buy into rah rah rhetoric concerning "democracy." "We're exporting constitutionally-limited representative republics to the Middle East," hasn't got a ring to it. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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And yet another conservative imitator... Not sure about the historical derivation of "United Kingdom" but the "United States" is actually a quite appropriate name, as long as one understands the emphasis in the early days of our history was more on the word "States" than it was on "United", with "States" being used in the same meaning as the word "countries". For that is what we were when we cut the apron-strings with England, a confederation of 13 "United Countries", ultimately bound federally for "mutual defense" and to establish baseline rules for individual freedoms within the confederation (codifying an individual's Bill of Rights that superceded the State's law). The anachronism of the Electoral College is a direct consequence, as the President was not really the leader of a United Country, but an Executive in charge of administering a Confederation of semi-independent states, and elected by those States, and not by the population of the confederation as a whole. Of course it has been a non-stop process of increasing Federal Government accretion of power since the founding, so that the States today are independent countries in name only. This may be what Rush means about the US not being a pure Democracy. Indeed this is certainly true as regards the Presidency. We elect representatives of our States, they then theoretically decide who the Federal Executive will be. Of course, as a practical reality, the electoral college is mandated to vote proportionally to the state popular vote, so it is effectively a Democratic process. - s RB - will check out those links later - busy day. - Skeptic - "... and there is no intelligent life in Washington D.C. either." ![]() ![]() |
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Repeat! Breen is of the SD UT. :P me@rescam.org |
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There is a difference between political rhetoric and reality. The U.S. has never been a pure "democracy" nor was it ever set up to be. Neither has it tried to do that to Iraq, either. This is quite amazing ... and it confirms the stereotype ... The minute someone questions your "American Way" ... the FIRST response is to clap your collective hands over your genitals and call "RAPE" ... What you see in my avatar is me ... I have NO need to hide behind Darth Vader masks or silly little cartoons. What you see is the man addressing you. I have NO doubt that I pre-date most of you. In Australia I am/was a Liberal (Little Johnnie was my hero) In England (For as a member of the Commonwealth, I am allowed to vote here), I was a Conservative. In America, by grace of being a resident of Dallas and having an apartment for many years in Turtle Creek, I was a Republican. ( I was, therefore a Right Wing adherent. George W Bush has achieved in me, what NO OTHER man could ever have done ... In American Politics, GWB has made me a Democrat. I will not dwell on the multitudinous reasons how or why ... save to say I will echo Christopher Wren's words written around the rotunda of St Paul's Cathedral in London ... "If you seek his monument, look around you" I say the same thing about GWB ... The World is a much less safe place now for his coming. I say no less for Blair in the UK and Howard in my homeland. I am ashamed that these three people could have devalued the currency of Statesmanship and Diplomacy to the depths they have reached today. And, remember, whomever it was who took issue with me on this point some days ago, and told me to get "my" house in order (meaning Blair, when he should have said Howard), this WHOLE sorry debacle was from the outset led, directed and promulgated by the President of the United States of America. So to that unnamed poster here I would say ... first of all, get YOUR house in order ... and the 'sheep' in this (Blair and Howard) ... will follow ... Happily ... DM |
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This is quite amazing ... and it confirms the stereotype ... I do not see a man addressing me, I see the same as you see, an icon posted on a web page that has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand. While of course you are free to assume that I "hide" behind that silly mask, that is simply untrue. It's just a pic--something that I do not have of myself. I have NO doubt that I pre-date most of you. Bodley, they're just politicans. And people beg them to meddle. Someimes that means you get healthcare, sometimes that means you get war. It's all just gov't force. Of course, none of this really has anything to do with the original idea that you posted that the U.S. was a democracy and was trying to instill one in Iraq. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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This is quite amazing ... and it confirms the stereotype ... There are none so blind as those who will not see, There are none so deaf as those who will not hear. (In this day and age it is unbelievable that a man can say " It's just a pic--something that I do not have of myself." ... for if that is true ... whatever I said of you hiding behind a mask is true ... and by that fact , a person on whom I shall not waste another breath ...) Goodbye, Plonker ... |
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There are none so blind as those who will not see, C'est la vie. Though of course, to be consistent, you should really not waste another breath on 99% of the people here. NEWSFLASH to Bodley: Misfit isn't really Milla Jovovich! Skeptic isn't Keir Dullea! Es99 isn't a cartoon cat! Though your position, whatever it was, would have been better served if you had actually presented an argument for it. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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C'est la vie. Though of course, to be consistent, you should really not waste another breath on 99% of the people here. NEWSFLASH to Bodley: Misfit isn't really I'm not? That explains so much!! Reality Internet Personality |
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I'm not? That explains so much!! I explained this: bartenders don't allow cartoon cats to order beer at the pub... Remember? Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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C'est la vie. Though of course, to be consistent, you should really not waste another breath on 99% of the people here. NEWSFLASH to Bodley: Misfit isn't really Milla Jovovich! Skeptic isn't Keir Dullea! Es99 isn't a cartoon cat! DB isn't a dog? CW isn't a wolf? CR isn't a squirrel? Tom isn't a dragon? Dan and Gas Giant aren't planets? CA isn't a (insert avatar character here)? I guess this summer I won't be Grace Park either. Oh what's the world coming to?! me@rescam.org |
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