"Permanent Bases"?

...in Iraq?

...Bush said it would never happen.....

Rumsfield said it would never happen....

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=59774

What a waste of time reading that diatribe....
as usual Conjecture and Innuendo........

---

"Permanent Bases"?

...in Iraq?

...Bush said it would never happen.....

Rumsfield said it would never happen....

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=59774

What a waste of time reading that diatribe....
as usual Conjecture and Innuendo........

...was that the same thing you said when you 'wished they'd quit bothering Tom DeLay'?

....much of that Innuendo and Conjecture turned into indictments and convictions.

---

Geez.
I really don't like politics much.
I guess it doesn't help that I don't get 100% of it.
What's Left? What's Right?

USA: Republicans v Democrats. Are Democrats, Liberal?

The terms left and right are relatively universal, originating from the French legislature a long time ago arranging its chamber to reduce side-arguments and such. Right is conservative and left is liberal.

Each of the two major US political parties is roughly aligned on the left-right axis. The senior leadership of the Republican Party (abbriviated GOP because it used to call itself the Grand Old Party) is right-wing. The senior leadership of the Democratic Party is left-wing. There are members of each party that violate the stereotypes.

Each major party is a coalition of special interest groups held together by enough common ground to coordinate elections. They do not always see eye-to-eye, however. The gun-ownership-rights people in the Republican Party don't always agree with the conservative-religious-values people in the same party. The affirmative-action faction of the Democratic Party can have problems with the environmentalist faction in the same party. These are just examples, of course.

I hope that helps a bit.

---

No animals were harmed in the making of the above post... much.

"Permanent Bases"?

...in Iraq?

...Bush said it would never happen.....

Rumsfield said it would never happen....

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=59774

What a waste of time reading that diatribe....
as usual Conjecture and Innuendo........

...was that the same thing you said when you 'wished they'd quit bothering Tom DeLay'?

....much of that Innuendo and Conjecture turned into indictments and convictions.

Again your full of it Zimm Tom Delay has not been convicted of anything
and being indicted is only a charge of wrong doing. The Left is so frustraited
because there is nothing they can hang there hat on to win more seats in the next election do in desperate moves they will smear anyone about anything.

The accusations against Tom Delay will drag on untill the next election and beyond, He resigned as Leader because while being Indicted he can't serve
and he did the right thing.

I was a very good move on the DemoCraps part but it will blow up in there
faces. gee you think they would come up with some answers and solutions to the problems but they can't and Like you don't have an original thought in there heads.

---

Certainly some members of this forum would like this story,
Not mentioning any names of course.

Irving jailed for Holocaust denial

British historian David Irving has been jailed for three years after admitting a charge of denying the Holocaust.

Irving insisted during his one-day hearing in the Austrian capital Vienna that he had a change of heart and now acknowledged the Nazis' Second World War slaughter of six million Jews.

Irving was arrested in Austria on November 11 when he arrived to give a lecture to students.

He was detained on a warrant issued in 1989 under Austrian laws that make Holocaust denial a crime, and has remained in custody.

The charges stemmed from speeches which Irving delivered that year in Vienna and in the southern town of Leoben.

The historian conceded in court today he erred in contending there were no Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz.

Irving, 67, told the jury of six women and two men the Holocaust was "just a fragment of my area of interest", going on: "In no way did I deny the killings of millions of people by the Nazis."

But the historian, handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, arrived at court carrying a copy of one of his most controversial books - Hitler's War, which challenges the extent of the Holocaust.

Earlier, he told journalists he considered it "ridiculous" that he was standing trial for remarks made 17 years ago.

Before the trial began, Irving told reporters he now acknowledges the Nazis systematically slaughtered Jews during the Second World War.

---

Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Again your full of it Zimm Tom Delay has not been convicted of anything
and being indicted is only a charge of wrong doing.

Nope, "Tom DeLay has not been convicted of money laundering yet, ...but that ignores his ethic violations in Congress and US Justice Dept. staff have ruled that his re-districitng engineering was illegal...

In addition to the money-laundering charges....

....prosecutors are now expanding their inquiries to include the irregularities in funding and DeLay's involvement in the US Family Network....

But with the others involved in the same or inter-connected charges being either convicted, turning state's evidence, and making further statements distancing themselves from him, it's little more than a matter of time..... Scanlon, Abramoff, Ney, Fitial...etc, etc...the list goes on and on. ......well, you get the point.

DeLay is awaiting trial on money laundering charges..... in the meantime, his involvement in other illegal acts are being exposed in a rapidly escaling fashion.

...and captim, it's the laws of the land that put DeLay on trial.... your attribution to the 'Left's frustration' isn't what determines the breaking of the law.

So, innuendo in some peoples world, becomes something far different in the end.

---

Certainly some members of this forum would like this story,
Not mentioning any names of course.

Irving jailed for Holocaust denial

British historian David Irving has been jailed for three years after admitting a charge of denying the Holocaust.

Irving insisted during his one-day hearing in the Austrian capital Vienna that he had a change of heart and now acknowledged the Nazis' Second World War slaughter of six million Jews.

Irving was arrested in Austria on November 11 when he arrived to give a lecture to students.

He was detained on a warrant issued in 1989 under Austrian laws that make Holocaust denial a crime, and has remained in custody.

The charges stemmed from speeches which Irving delivered that year in Vienna and in the southern town of Leoben.

The historian conceded in court today he erred in contending there were no Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz.

Irving, 67, told the jury of six women and two men the Holocaust was "just a fragment of my area of interest", going on: "In no way did I deny the killings of millions of people by the Nazis."

But the historian, handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, arrived at court carrying a copy of one of his most controversial books - Hitler's War, which challenges the extent of the Holocaust.

Earlier, he told journalists he considered it "ridiculous" that he was standing trial for remarks made 17 years ago.

Before the trial began, Irving told reporters he now acknowledges the Nazis systematically slaughtered Jews during the Second World War.

I think that laws making it illegal to deny the Holocaust are counter productive. Free speech is one of the most important pillars in a democratic society. The truth, what ever it may be, will prevail in an open society. You don't need laws to protect the truth. The truth and the facts are the sharpest weapon against lies and deceit.

---

Account frozen...

I think that laws making it illegal to deny the Holocaust are counter productive. Free speech is one of the most important pillars in a democratic society. The truth, what ever it may be, will prevail in an open society. You don't need laws to protect the truth. The truth and the facts are the sharpest weapon against lies and deceit.

Agreed, free speech is important, but so is understanding the past and preventing tragedies like the holcaust from ever happening again. Also clarity of the past is important so noone has any doubt about what should not happen.

---

Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Iran would become top supplier of oil to China under deal

Bush: U.S. on Verge of Energy Breakthrough

Bush: U.S. on Verge of Energy Breakthrough

I seem to remember that Bush said we were going to put a man on Mars, too.

---

Account frozen...

I seem to remember that Bush said we were going to put a man on Mars, too.

Yes in about 20 years,,,, So DB?

---

I seem to remember that Bush said we were going to put a man on Mars, too.

Yes in about 20 years,,,, So DB?

It won't be in 30 years after the President's and Congress' slashing of the NASA budget. How are we going to get there, Virgin Space? I'm sorry, but it just seems to me to be another "sound bite." Said one moment, then forgotten the next.

---

Account frozen...

Keep buying their records!

Bush: U.S. on Verge of Energy Breakthrough

"Roof makers will one day be able to make a solar roof that protects you from the elements and at the same time, powers your house," Bush said. "The vision is this - that technology will become so efficient that you'll become a little power generator in your home, and if you don't use the energy you generate you'll be able to feed it back into the electricity grid."
________________________________________
Wow, .....imagine that!

Shows how far 'up to speed' Bush is on this issue...

This 'vision' he speaks of has not only been technologically possible for many, many years, but the practical application of this technology has been in operation for quite some time.....

Verge of an Energy Breakthrough......

It's maybe important that he at least pays lip service to renewable energy instead of denying it's value, as he has in the past, .......but substantial support hasn't been forthcoming as far as what's inherent in his policies.... I don't see substantive changes in support being forthcoming, even after all the pretty speeches....

He's as deceptive as he's ever been..... it won't be Bush who leads us into a saner energy policy.....

---

I seem to remember that Bush said we were going to put a man on Mars, too.

Yes in about 20 years,,,, So DB?

How are we going to get there, Virgin Space?

Maybe we should put all NASA-dollars into creating Holodeck technology instead? Then we just can imagine being on Mars. After all, NASA said (somewhere) that holodeck technology, as In Star Trek, could be possible someday.

---

Just a blurp I saw in the local news got me to thinking...

-----
Women's Body Image Panel Challenges Cultural Expectations

by KYW’s Karin Phillips

A panel discussion will be held on the University of Pennsylvania campus Tuesday night on women and body image.

The panel -- Body Image: Shifting Perspectives -- will include psychologists, authors, models and students and is designed:

“To expose shifting perspectives and to talk about challenging the cultural expectations that are dictated through the media and otherwise and in the minds of most women about what they want to see themselves as.”

Nancy Rothstein, a member of the Trustees Council of Penn Women, says it's too easy to blame everything on the media, that women have to be exposed to positive body image thinking when they are at a young age:

“You can have a woman who's at the top of a corporation, or who's a senator or a congressman, or who's a teacher or a professor. Every woman, most of them, are trying to look different than the way they look. And why? Where did that come from?”

The panel discussion is at 7pm in College Hall.
-----

Is it just me, or are these people completely clueless? Haven't men and women been altering their appearance since Cro Magnan times? I mean, when is the last time you saw someone waiting in line at the Post Office completely nude with sleep-matted hair and no cosmetic or deoderant of any kind?

(edit for spelling)

---

No animals were harmed in the making of the above post... much.

Is it just me, or are these people completely clueless? Haven't men and women been altering their appearance since Cro Magnan times? I mean, when is the last time you saw someone waiting in line at the Post Office completely nude with sleep-matted hair and no cosmetic or deoderant of any kind?

(edit for spelling)

Last week..

---

I'd rather speak my mind because it hurts too much to bite my tongue.

American Spirit BBQ Proudly Serving those that courageously defend freedom.

Is it just me, or are these people completely clueless? Haven't men and women been altering their appearance since Cro Magnan times? I mean, when is the last time you saw someone waiting in line at the Post Office completely nude with sleep-matted hair and no cosmetic or deoderant of any kind?

(edit for spelling)

It's just you dude! I live close to the most expensive Liberal Arts College in the US. You should see what goes on there! sometimes it spills out into the community. Especially during the summer sessions......

---