It's common knowledge that the Pentagon, the Chiefs of Staff and the D.O.D have recently, at the direction of GW Bush, produced full scale scenerios for an all out air attack on Iran....

It's also common knowledge (they) produced full scale scenarios for all out air war, conventional war, and nuclear war on Iran, and many other countries around the world. They are generally updated about every 18 months as they are re-integrated in to the SIOP, and are always a part of the Nuclear Posture Review. STRATCOM maintains it's Strategic War Planning System on rotating basis and would keep countries like Iraq, Iran, and the DPRK regularly updated.

So you would agree, ....

My point is that a poster made a comment about our current 'war' plans and another poster came back with 'what makes you think we have them?'.......

Point is clear..... we have the plans, and we have an administration that is more than willing to make the case that we should use those plans......

...this could be a good thing..... but past experience shows that this administration will most likely abuse their position and make regrettable decisions.....

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So, now USA is going for Iran... are you still thinking the way to reach peace is through war?
In god you trust. Do you trust in sovereignty?

I wonder why you don't think about the global danger that a nuclear armed Iran would pose to the world? You are more concerned with implying the U.S. is the evil nation here, while ignoring the fact that no U.S. military strike has taken place, no military strike has been threatened, and the United Nations is now looking at Iran's blatent violations of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

So you would agree, ....

My point is that a poster made a comment about our current 'war' plans and another poster came back with 'what makes you think we have them?'.......

Point is clear..... we have the plans, and we have an administration that is more than willing to make the case that we should use those plans......

Sure, as we almost always have.

...this could be a good thing..... but past experience shows that this administration will most likely abuse their position and make regrettable decisions.....

Eh, that's just part of your partisan ideology. I think that even if Iran used a nuke on Israel and was destroyed because of it, you would just start up more partisan ideology.

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elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

I wonder why you don't think about the global danger that a nuclear armed Iran would pose to the world? You are more concerned with implying the U.S. is the evil nation here, while ignoring the fact that no U.S. military strike has taken place, no military strike has been threatened, and the United Nations is now looking at Iran's blatent violations of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

I didn't state that a militarily armed nuclear Iran wouldn't be a threat, that's just you putting words into my mouth..... typical of your tactics.

If we truly were to discuss our own 'evil' maybe you could explain how our own treaty violations are not taken into account in your defense of policies which are not consistent.

Policies that only apply to 'others', ...

Why don't those same policies apply to ourselves, tom?

Iran is about 10 years away from being able to make a nuclear weapon, none of the current fear mongering from the Bush administration can change that....

It's not as pressing as some would have you believe....

I just tend to think the 'threat' of a nuclear Iran can be dealt with in another manner than to whip up a bunch of lies about what is really going on....

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Immigration is root of many problems

GEORGIE ANNE GEYER, a nationally syndicated columnist focusing on international affairs.

February 14, 2006

The papers indicate an extraordinary recent increase in the violence along our border with Mexico, with more and more Mexicans (not to speak of the Mexican government) taking the position that they have the right to come here.

In the next column, story after story illustrates the cartoon crisis – an Islamic world gone utterly wild with rage against the very countries that they chose to emigrate to. Many of them take the position that they have a further right – to impose their principles upon the countries that allowed them a new, free, productive life.

If you dig a bit deeper, you'll find immigration problems that are not so well-covered – the Togans in the Ivory Coast, the Sudanese seeking refuge in Egypt, the Uzbeks in Kyrgyzstan. As a counterpart, you read of the howls and hand-wringing emanating from the American Congress and from European leaders over what to do about it all: Guest worker programs? Immigration limits? Keep future Muslims out entirely, or try to reason with them, À la the “European Way”? They don't have a clue.

Just about everyone who watches these trends recognizes a sea change in the attitudes surrounding immigration and culture, in only the last months and virtually across the world.

Mexico? “There seems to be a new, overtly political aggression by Mexico,” Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, commented to me. “Something dramatically has changed. This is a country that, only 15 years ago, declared it would not interfere in our immigration policies, and now ... every day. ...”

Indeed, every day there are stories about the Mexican military crossing into the United States, for unknown but surely aggressive purposes. The last fiscal year, ending on Sept. 30, saw 778 drug-smuggler attacks on Border Patrol agents, up from 374 in the previous year. And there is a deeper philosophical doctrine behind the trouble there.

“The basic concept is that the Mexican nation goes beyond the borders that contain Mexico,” Carlos Gonzalez Gutierrez, head of the Institute of Mexicans Abroad in the Foreign Ministry, explained to me last fall in Mexico City. “For the first time, we are exporting our politics. Many Mexicans now live 'transnational' lives, with one foot in one country and one in the other.”

Strangely enough, that kind of self-indulgent assurance that they are right is not unlike what we are seeing in much of the Islamic world in the Danish cartoon crisis.

Two factors are at work here: (1) Many Muslims in Europe really believe that Islam is the one true way of life and cannot adapt to the tolerant, Western liberalist cornucopia of ideas. And (2) at the same time, they feel dismally inferior to the West, an inferiority expressed in heinous violence.

It is one of the great curiosities of the late 20th and early 21st century that advanced and educated Europeans have allowed this happen to them in their own homes. But they bought into open Islamic immigration from the 1960s onward, for the same reasons the United States bought into it: cheap labor that “would go home again,” and liberal and tolerant utopian ideas that these very different people would immediately choose to become nice, tame Danes, Dutchmen and German burghers.

Another crucial factor is often missed: In virtually all of these cases, and from the Middle East to Latin America to further afield, the paranoid responses (for that is what the cartoon riots really are) are fed by the memory of European colonialism – and now, a new, at least perceived American colonialism.

These are post-colonial wars being fought by men and women who not only had the humiliation of being colonized for decades or centuries but who cannot, worse yet, keep up with the former colonizers. Even sadder, they could have kept up in terms of intelligence and capacity, but their paranoia refuses them the capacity to grasp the Western attitudes necessary for modern advancement.

Egypt was British-controlled; so were Iran and Iraq; Syria, Lebanon and Tunisia belonged to France; Mexico dwells even today, with numbing focus, upon losing the Southwest to the United States in 1848.

These are the psychoses that are driving not only the immigration but the imagination, and the raging, uncritical, blame-the-other responses behind it.

Unfortunately, and perhaps tragically, the United States, which outside of a few hemispheric cases didn't take part in European colonialism, has innocently taken over the guilt – first in Vietnam (the French) and now in Iraq (the British).

The Danes recently put up stiff new barriers to Islamic immigration, as have the Brits and the French and some German states. A larger answer is to allow and encourage young people from across the globe to come to our schools, to our universities – to “choose” in another way – and to go home and improve their own countries with their knowledge. But as long as we are out there with our troops, our bombs and our self-satisfied advisers, strengthening the memories of the past, these psychoses are ghosts that will let no one rest.

I wonder why you don't think about the global danger that a nuclear armed Iran would pose to the world? You are more concerned with implying the U.S. is the evil nation here, while ignoring the fact that no U.S. military strike has taken place, no military strike has been threatened, and the United Nations is now looking at Iran's blatent violations of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

I didn't state that a militarily armed nuclear Iran wouldn't be a threat, that's just you putting words into my mouth..... typical of your tactics. ....

Hey YOU! You're showing you incompetence at being able to read and understand what is posted to a message board. I'm begining to see a pattern in your post style. You look for any way you can to continue to argue with people and attempt to be the center of attention.

Observe some REAL facts, Paul, something you just cannot come up with when you are confronted to do so:

This reply, from Tom, was made to this post, by Luca Pacioli.

So, tell me Paul, just how long are you going to remain here and continue to show everyone just how much of an idiot you truly are? Obviously, Tom DID NOT put words in your mouth, since he has you on ignore and his reply was to another user. Or, are you that much of an idiot that you think every post Tom makes is directed at YOU? Wake up to reality, bubba.... (-:<

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Wake up to reality, bubba.... (-:<

Bubba? Was that Rasputin's nickname?

Wake up to reality, bubba.... (-:<

Bubba? Was that Rasputin's nickname?

Thinks With Dick?

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Come on Paul... Quit soaring like an eagle... Fly down here and join ranks with the other birds of a feather who flock together... After all, it is the 'popular' choice... ;)

So, tell me Paul, just how long are you going to remain here and continue to show everyone just how much of an idiot you truly are? Obviously, Tom DID NOT put words in your mouth, since he has you on ignore and his reply was to another user. Or, are you that much of an idiot that you think every post Tom makes is directed at YOU? Wake up to reality, bubba.... (-:<

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I had to look at what Pauly-poo did, and it's pretty funny. Then I had to look at what little Jeffy-poo said, but like his pal Zippy, Jeffy-poo didn't make any sense either. But what else is new?

Anyway, I had a good laugh about my "tactics". Sleep well, everyone.

No problem admitting to misreading the post..... sorry, tom.

...I don't, however, think it's such a grievous sin to warrant the banter of others who have commented in the manner they have.....

...anyway, it's really not a problem I'll dwell on,...... I apologize to tom.

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Defiant Iran resumes uranium enrichment

ASSOCIATED PRESS

February 15, 2006

TEHRAN, Iran – Iran has resumed small-scale enrichment of uranium, a senior Iranian nuclear negotiator said yesterday – a defiant declaration in the face of global opposition to Iran's atomic program.

The resumption still leaves Iran a long way from reaching the stage that the world fears most: large-scale enrichment of uranium – a process that can produce fuel for an atomic bomb.

Javad Vaeidi, deputy secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, in announcing the small-scale enrichment, also said Iran would resume negotiations with Moscow on Monday over its plan to enrich Iranian uranium on Russian soil – a proposal designed to allay fears Iran will build nuclear weapons.

“The talks with Russia remain valid,” Vaeidi said, adding that an Iranian delegation would go to Moscow.

The negotiations with Russia had been due to resume tomorrow, but Iran said Monday they were postponed indefinitely.

Vaeidi gave no indication whether Iran was looking more favorably at the plan.

He said enrichment of uranium resumed last week at Natanz, the country's main enrichment plant, but that Iran had not resumed large-scale enrichment, as required for producing fuel for nuclear reactors.

The world has long sought to stop Iran from enriching uranium, fearing that the process would bring it to the threshold of possessing nuclear bombs. On Feb. 4, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported Iran to the U.N. Security Council and called on its government to suspend all enrichment-related activities.

Instead, Iran suspended certain aspects of its cooperation with the IAEA.

Iran maintains its nuclear program is designed solely to generate electricity, but the United States and Israel claim the program is a cover for producing an atomic bomb.

Nevermind.... /-:<

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Anybody got a link to the 325,000 names
On Homeland Securitys' terrorist list?
I need to get to Erie PA. to visit my grandaughter.
It's enough of a hassle nowadays just to fly-
Without a Gitmo detour cause my name shows on some list.
I can get to Erie without a plane ride.
But then I'll need to crew on a banana boat from Venezuela to Tampa.
And have to hitch all the way up I-95 or take the torturous busride.
If I'm considered a terrorist by the gov't-
They should at least let me know my status so I can arrange my life accordingly.
I'm hoping I'm not on their list.
But I dont care to expose my passport to an airport Fed-
Who might have had a bad day-
And then find out the hard way that I'm a badguy...cc

'Anybody got a link to the 325,000 names On Homeland Securitys' terrorist list?'


Just assume you're guilty until proven innocent... That's the best approach nowadays...


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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future... ;)

I'm hoping I'm not on their list.
But I dont care to expose my passport to an airport Fed-
Who might have had a bad day-
And then find out the hard way that I'm a badguy...cc

Read this a couple of days ago...., carl

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14road.html

You might like this small bit contained within the article.....

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Last week, Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska complained that his wife, Catherine Stevens, has been questioned at checkpoints because her name in its diminutive matches that of the singer formerly known as Cat Stevens. Now known as Yusuf Islam, he has been barred from entering the United States because of activities that the Department of Homeland Security said could be linked to terrorism.

"How do people get off these lists?" Senator Stevens asked...........
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http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?content=09000519800c6c77

.....feeling 'safer', now ? Makes you want to buy your way off the lists...... ?

I, especially like that part. You can now 'pay' a yearly enrollment giving you the right to be whisked through the checkpoints that the rabble will still be bottlenecked in.....

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