Not part of the Patriot Act (which there is only one version...so there isn't an 'original' and 'something newer'). Besides, the FBI has been asking the FCC for that for years. Nor has the Government dictated anything by '2008'.

The patriot act, as initially instituted, is the original. It has been modified and expanded. Additional legislation has been passed and used as tools of the Dept of Homeland Security. Even the name is disturbing. WWII Germany was the fatherland, Russia was the motherland, and now America uses the term homeland. Gee, I wonder why. Don't try to hand me that the patriot act is for the good of the nation. It is a tool to eliminate what remains of the freedoms of the American people.

And before you jump on me for being unpatriotic I have TWO honorable discharges. I was in Germany when the US Army barracks was partially destroyed. Fortunately I had a direct assignment to a unit or I would have been IN those barracks. I remember the alerts and the bomb searches at the gates entering military installations. I remember having to identify my baggage laid out next to the plane before being allowed to board a plane. What happened to the preparedness that existed in the 1980s? The times I flew home on leave I ran scenarios through my mind determining what action I'd take if the plane was taken over by terrorists. There's plenty of time for such thoughts on a 10+ hour flight. If it came down to it I'd have gladly given my life to eliminate such a threat. Could you say the same?

I seriously considered joining the Army a third time but found out some disturbing things about the war that's going on and what led up to the current war against Iraq and the one that preceded it.

Now be a good little party member drone and go shine your boots.

Don't bother replying. I won't read it. You've been filtered.

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'The patriot act, as initially instituted, is the original. It has been modified and expanded.'


Not only has the original patriot act been modified and expanded with 'provisions' to a newer version... The original patriot act is now known as PATRIOT ACT I because there have been several drafts of a PATRIOT ACT II floating around...

I already did that To.

Thx anyway.

Don't forget some encryption is busted wide open and can be crackd in a few minutes. So use the latest and best you can and - often forgotten advice - turn down the power so you are not so visible. Use more bridges if needs be to keep the power down.

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Not part of the Patriot Act (which there is only one version...so there isn't an 'original' and 'something newer'). Besides, the FBI has been asking the FCC for that for years. Nor has the Government dictated anything by '2008'.

The patriot act, as initially instituted, is the original. It has been modified and expanded. Additional legislation has been passed and used as tools of the Dept of Homeland Security. Even the name is disturbing. WWII Germany was the fatherland, Russia was the motherland, and now America uses the term homeland. Gee, I wonder why. Don't try to hand me that the patriot act is for the good of the nation. It is a tool to eliminate what remains of the freedoms of the American people.

And before you jump on me for being unpatriotic I have TWO honorable discharges. I was in Germany when the US Army barracks was partially destroyed. Fortunately I had a direct assignment to a unit or I would have been IN those barracks. I remember the alerts and the bomb searches at the gates entering military installations. I remember having to identify my baggage laid out next to the plane before being allowed to board a plane. What happened to the preparedness that existed in the 1980s? The times I flew home on leave I ran scenarios through my mind determining what action I'd take if the plane was taken over by terrorists. There's plenty of time for such thoughts on a 10+ hour flight. If it came down to it I'd have gladly given my life to eliminate such a threat. Could you say the same?

I seriously considered joining the Army a third time but found out some disturbing things about the war that's going on and what led up to the current war against Iraq and the one that preceded it.

Now be a good little party member drone and go shine your boots.

Don't bother replying. I won't read it. You've been filtered.

uhm, right. Don't start this petty crap about me thinking your unpatriotic and yadda yadda..nor do I need a discertation on your "military" career to prove your patriotism. All because I pointed out something wrong in your statements? GET A GRIP? I never accused you of being "unpatriotic".

I would merely like you to get your facts straight about the Patrioc Act. Duh?
READ IT.

So since you went there....it's my turn.

I do not believe in the Patriot Act, I do not support it, care about it...but I won't perpetuate the rumor mill. I believe the Patriot Act is a violation of our constitutional rights. I believe the Patriot Act, as written, is UNpatriotic.

I believe we had no right to attack Iraq, I believe we should support our troops over there and finish the bs we started.

I retire from the US Navy, June of this year, after serving 20 years. Don't preach to me about patriotism. You do not know me.

I posted this for everyone else, and could care less if you read it or not. Which you will of course. Your huge ego wont let you ignore me.

You believe everything you read on a website?

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

But forging a mac address is easy.
Here's a utility you can get to do it. Runs on xp, 2000, 2003
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

But forging a mac address is easy.
Here's a utility you can get to do it. Runs on xp, 2000, 2003
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

But getting the real one takes time. Someone with a lot of expensive equipment, the desire, and the time can break into almost any WIFI. But
the harder you make it, the less attractive the target. They're just like
car thieves.

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

But forging a mac address is easy.
Here's a utility you can get to do it. Runs on xp, 2000, 2003
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

While that may be true, it isn't practical, unless you already know the MAC of the machine you wish to emulate.

When using MAC filtering on a router, unless you know the MAC of an 'approved' interface, your dead in the water.

Neat utility for covering your identity, useless if you want to borrow someone elses resources.

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

But forging a mac address is easy.
Here's a utility you can get to do it. Runs on xp, 2000, 2003
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

While that may be true, it isn't practical, unless you already know the MAC of the machine you wish to emulate.

When using MAC filtering on a router, unless you know the MAC of an 'approved' interface, your dead in the water.

Neat utility for covering your identity, useless if you want to borrow someone elses resources.

I was thinking of wireless as this was in keeping with the other comments earlier - SSID. When MAC addresses go plain text (and they do) one is home an dry as they say if you rely on filtering.

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

But forging a mac address is easy.
Here's a utility you can get to do it. Runs on xp, 2000, 2003
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

While that may be true, it isn't practical, unless you already know the MAC of the machine you wish to emulate.

When using MAC filtering on a router, unless you know the MAC of an 'approved' interface, your dead in the water.

Neat utility for covering your identity, useless if you want to borrow someone elses resources.

I was thinking of wireless as this was in keeping with the other comments earlier - SSID. When MAC addresses go plain text (and they do) one is home an dry as they say if you rely on filtering.

Yeah I was referring to wireless also..minimize your risk I say...I have nothing critical on my machines anyway...although I do use SSID and filtering.

My linux boxes are hard wired into the router....I got tired of fighting with Linux to keep the wireless card connected. Pain in my arse. !!

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aha...yes..this could be it. I must getting old.
I have read about this War-dialing just a week ago.

hmmm SSID is hidden.
Encription enabeld

It sounds like i'm in for another pasword then.

Thx Novi

Don't forget MAC address filtering...

MAC filtering is *the* way to go...

But forging a mac address is easy.
Here's a utility you can get to do it. Runs on xp, 2000, 2003
http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

While that may be true, it isn't practical, unless you already know the MAC of the machine you wish to emulate.

When using MAC filtering on a router, unless you know the MAC of an 'approved' interface, your dead in the water.

Neat utility for covering your identity, useless if you want to borrow someone elses resources.

I was thinking of wireless as this was in keeping with the other comments earlier - SSID. When MAC addresses go plain text (and they do) one is home an dry as they say if you rely on filtering.

A good way around that, at least with Linksys, is to switch to HTTPS. Anything helps.
This thread should be renamed to "WIFI security."

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