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Message 124556 - Posted: 17 Jun 2005, 12:51:43 UTC

I have no luck!
I have successfully completed 4 WUs (computer 167) but look here!
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It still may work with these 2
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Message 124611 - Posted: 17 Jun 2005, 16:55:32 UTC

Philippe, they had some problems with the WU's that were sent out on the 14th and 15th. They corrected the problem and suggested that testers reset the project. Those WU's probably won't validate. Grab some new ones and crunch on! (It is a beta test project, so expect plenty of hiccups like this.)


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Message 124641 - Posted: 17 Jun 2005, 19:55:53 UTC

Joined seti beta yesterday at the same time I joined orbit and set one system to resource share seti@home 40%, seti@home beta 40% and orbit 20%.

Three initial observations:

1) The cache on the system has grown from 10 Wus to 15 Wus. I was expecting the cache to settle out at around 10 WUs split across live and beta seti WUs.

2) Orbit is not sending work but seti@home beta has taken 100% of the time since I joined the project. Not sure why seti@home is not getting any CPU time

3) The beta seti@home WUs take a lot longer to process. Is this expected?


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Message 124642 - Posted: 17 Jun 2005, 19:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 124611.  
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Philippe, they had some problems with the WU's that were sent out on the 14th and 15th. They corrected the problem and suggested that testers reset the project. Those WU's probably won't validate.


I know and my WUs are OK... It's just the ones that they are supposed to be compared with that are not!
That's why I said I had no luck.

Grab some new ones and crunch on! (It is a beta test project, so expect plenty of hiccups like this.)


No problem with beta or alpha projects...

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Message 124733 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 1:55:26 UTC

I just checked and I have returned three wu's that are ok from my AMD64 3400 with dual channel memory running WinXP64 v 1289. Plan on updating to XP64 Gold maybe this weekend.

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Message 124737 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 2:05:44 UTC
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Total credit: 29.25
Average credit: 2.59 (WTF?) Claimed credit is in the 22-23 range.
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/workunit.php?wuid=48751
Shows granting credit after 3 results (not 4),
credit not average of the 3, but middle score,
also shows I claim the lowest credit with faster 3.4 P4

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Rank....Name........recent credit.....total credit
1..........[US]Armstrong......6.96.....74.06
2..........Brian Stansbury....4.17.....44.82
3..........MikeSW17.............4.07.....44.82
4..........ric..........................2.61.....29.25
5..........Misfit.....................2.59.....29.25
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Message 124795 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 6:04:18 UTC

*Impatiently waits for a linux client for this project*
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Message 124815 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 7:05:40 UTC
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*Impatiently wait for the source code for this project*

May the source be with you!

Otherwise I will not do it. That's the only reason I stopped Einstein and Predictor.
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Message 124823 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 7:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 124815.  

*Impatiently wait for the source code for this project*

May the source be with you!

Otherwise I will not do it. That's the only reason I stopped Einstein and Predictor.


Yeah I was hoping Einstein was Open Source.. but that's a long shot..

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Message 124835 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 8:09:44 UTC

This is the closest I will ever get to being at the top:

Rank Name Recent average credit Total credit
1 ric 9.54 101.66
2 [US]Armstrong 6.96 74.06
3 Brian Stansbury 4.17 44.82
4 MikeSW17 4.07 44.82
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Message 124913 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 16:01:42 UTC

I must say, the scheduler is working a bit too good for Beta on CC4.45
I've put all projects on NNW, but for Beta. I only take the others off when I test something (like Pirates).

Since the application on Beta takes double the time of the optimised client (again), it'll download 2 WUs against my specific settings of connect to every 0.5 days. Not a problem, as it'll run it easily, together with the CPDN unit I still have.

But today I checked if I could reach Seti proper. Just to see if I had the trouble others here show. I don't, it downloaded a WU, so I returned Seti to NNW.

So that's the 1 CPDN unit I had, one Seti unit, two Seti Beta units. Only Beta is on Allowed work fetch.

Until one of the Beta units had a little over an hour still to go. Then the scheduler kicked in:
18/06/2005 15:42:35|SETI@home Beta Test|Requesting 3 seconds of work, returning 0 results
18/06/2005 15:42:36|SETI@home Beta Test|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta_cgi/cgi succeeded
18/06/2005 15:42:37|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03mr03ab.10144.4689.442338.131
18/06/2005 15:42:42|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of 03mr03ab.10144.4689.442338.131
18/06/2005 15:42:42|SETI@home Beta Test|Throughput 84858 bytes/sec

Okay, worked. No panic, we'll continue the way we've been doing things for the past couple of days.

Until the new Seti unit started running, and immediately my computer went into panic mode:
18/06/2005 17:44:57|SETI@home|Starting result 18au03aa.28173.2032.65882.165_3 using setiathome version 4.11
18/06/2005 17:45:23||Suspending work fetch because computer is overcommitted.
18/06/2005 17:45:23||Using earliest-deadline-first scheduling because computer is overcommitted.

So I did the last thing I could do, set Beta to NNW as well. Panic mode turned off immediately.
18/06/2005 17:52:39||Allowing work fetch again.
18/06/2005 17:52:39||Resuming round-robin CPU scheduling.

You just got to love this. ;)

(@JM7: No complaints. Complimetns for the scheduler that works too perfectly. ;))
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Message 124920 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 16:18:05 UTC

I agree with you there Jord, it's crunching along on my system nicely.

I've seen a couple of times when it went into EDF then less than a minute later corrected itself.

Right now I've got 2 wu's each for: CPDN, Einstein, PP@H, S@H, S@HBeta.
Yesterday I had all that and 2 Pirates wu's & 1 Lattice wu.

BURP, Pirates, Lattice & Orbit (no app as of yet) are looking for work while I crunch :-)

I'm set to connect at 0.5 day... Haven't ran out of work yet!

The scheduler is a booger to understand at first, but it works just fine for me.

Thanks again JM7!!! Keep up the good work!!!

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Message 124975 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 19:44:12 UTC

HAs it been mentioned that the quota per day is a little high, mine is at 500 lol sure hope I never get that many....
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Message 124978 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 19:50:32 UTC

They all are, Fuzzy.

Which may bring in a problem seeing how FJaccard is going through his units. Downloaded 149 so far, all but 14 directly went out the window with a Client Error.

One would think one would adjust their connect to server then, but no.
I think he has an Ati videocard as all the units dunk out with - exit code -1073741502 (0xc0000142)

Might be wise not to run with graphics or screensaver on!
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Message 124980 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 19:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 124978.  

They all are, Fuzzy.

Which may bring in a problem seeing how FJaccard is going through his units. Downloaded 149 so far, all but 14 directly went out the window with a Client Error.

One would think one would adjust their connect to server then, but no.
I think he has an Ati videocard as all the units dunk out with - exit code -1073741502 (0xc0000142)

Might be wise not to run with graphics or screensaver on!

And his daily quota will be pretty low at the moment (unless he has fixed the problem and the 14 successes were the last ones).



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Message 124981 - Posted: 18 Jun 2005, 19:56:56 UTC

They aren't successes yet, John. Just 'in motion'. ;)
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Message 125262 - Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 6:07:50 UTC

Just a thought but is it wise for anyone to download a large cache's of units on a trial project, or for the project masters to allow this to happen, 500/day !!!!
The project could go base over apex at any time and therefore; What do I do with all these downloaded units? is it going to be restarted? will it process these downloaded units? etc. etc.

Two out of the three results that I have returned are pending, one due to the afore mentioned, and the other maybe! returned before deadline but that computer has also a larger cache than I would have thought wise, and only returned one unit in nearly two days, that maybe a connection time thing so no real critism there.

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Message 125266 - Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 6:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 124978.  
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I think he has an Ati videocard as all the units dunk out with - exit code -1073741502 (0xc0000142)

Might be wise not to run with graphics or screensaver on! [/quote]

Jord, I happen to have an ATI graphics card on my laptop... I can see graphics if i want, but i choose not to...

BOINC installed as service...blank screensaver....

(check Pirates board for more info)

no errors as of yet...
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Message 125270 - Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 6:46:22 UTC - in response to Message 125266.  

I also have an ATI card and don't get any graphics within the app, but no errors either. I haven't tried it as a screensaver though.
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Message 125275 - Posted: 19 Jun 2005, 6:58:25 UTC - in response to Message 125266.  
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On Pirates we're trying to find out what causes the Ati cards not showing graphics for Einstein (and therefore Seti), KJF. That's mostly the 9600 and 9800 series cards. Not the mobile version chips in laptops. As far as I know they do things fine.

They haven't worked since Boinc CC 4.20, if I am not mistaken, so it's a tricky thing to try to break. Or repair.

Also, anything we find through Pirates won't be fixed overnight. As far as I understand we need new apps for the projects that don't show graphics, plus a new Boinc CC.

So just because you think you have graphics & a screensaver on your system, doesn't mean the rest of us graphics forsaken people do. ;)
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