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Send message Joined: 15 Jun 16 Posts: 45 Credit: 1,836,741 RAC: 0 ![]() |
At least it was quickly resolved, unlike Keith Myers intermittent download issues on main. EDIT- From the Release notes for v5.24 - Fixed a memory leak in server side of remote sensor monitoring. Grant Darwin NT. |
Send message Joined: 3 Jun 12 Posts: 64 Credit: 2,532,468 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why are the new (8.13/8.14) opencl_nvidia tasks (both SoG and sah) using so much CPU time ? I have specified -use_sleep, but I still seem to need nearly an entire CPU core to feed the GPU. Examples: 8.13 SoG: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24206772 8.14 SoG: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24217433 8.14 SoG: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24225616 8.14 sah: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24225173 Previous versions did not have this problem: 8.12 SoG: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24146549 8.12 SoG: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=23934991 8.12 sah: https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=23868462 I don't like wasting my CPU time just feeding the GPU and by using -use_sleep there were no problems (BOINC would soon select cuda50 over opencl versions), but now I am not so sure. Tom |
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Why are the new (8.13/8.14) opencl_nvidia tasks (both SoG and sah) using so much CPU time ? I have specified -use_sleep, but I still seem to need nearly an entire CPU core to feed the GPU. Add -v 6 to tuning line. And post few results with this option ON. News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Yikes!!, we're in the middle of a perfect Arecibo VLAR storm again. No wonder the tasks all of a sudden takes more than twice as long as before :-) This is going to screw up the APR again, so Non SoG will be chosen just when the Arecibo VLAR storm is over, and then Non SoG will be chosen as the fastest app, because it never did run any Arecibo VLARs. Just like the last Arecibo VLAR storm, one has to then manually abort so many Non SoG, so that SoG again can come into play. Not good at all when there is so many WU's of one type being split, and not a good mix. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Dropping on the fly <ngpus>, to 0.50 (from 0.33) for SoG and Non SoG, in app_config.xml, because I already know that SoG is the fastest app, no matter the AR. Just to avoid APR rot, getting slower apps, due to this Arecibo VLAR storm. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jun 16 Posts: 45 Credit: 1,836,741 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Dropping on the fly <ngpus>, to 0.50 (from 0.33) for SoG and Non SoG, in app_config.xml, because I already know that SoG is the fastest app, no matter the AR. That's what I do change applications, no need to abort. Just load up the undesirable applications with 2, 3, or 4 WUs per GPU and watch it's APR plummet, then go back to the usual values when the VLAR or Guppie storm is over and you've got your preferred application back. Grant Darwin NT. |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well, the best solution would be to have a better mix of AR's here on Beta, like it is on main. Having a full day of only VLARs for Arecibo, really screws things up, unless you manually intervene. Had I not lowered the <ngpus> for SoG, I would by now only get the much slower Non SoG. The system had already decided that SoG was the fastest, in fact I didn't have even one non SoG, until this Arecibo VLAR storm started. And if I had not intervened, the APR of SoG would be so low, that I would only get non SoG, and by then the VLAR storm would be over, so the non SoG would not drop its APR. Of course leading to that the system would only give me non SoG, even on normal ARs, until the next VLAR storm, when the APR of non SoG would drop lower than the low APR SoG had from the last VLAR storm. And then it would start over again... No, a better mix of Arecibo AR's on Beta, thank you. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jun 16 Posts: 45 Credit: 1,836,741 RAC: 0 ![]() |
And then it would start over again... Yep. No, a better mix of Arecibo AR's on Beta, thank you. Or a way to disable the manager's best application selection when on Beta. The more applications, and the greater the mix of work that are run on given hardware, the better. 10WUs for this application, 10 for that application, 10 for the next & so on, then repeat. Grant Darwin NT. |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Oh man!!! Is there no end to this suffering? Thanks for all the VLARs. Can I have something else now? LOL WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 3 Jun 12 Posts: 64 Credit: 2,532,468 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why are the new (8.13/8.14) opencl_nvidia tasks (both SoG and sah) using so much CPU time ? I have specified -use_sleep, but I still seem to need nearly an entire CPU core to feed the GPU. First two results (both opencl_nvidia_sah): https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24227184 https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24227503 The second one resulted in a computation error: Disk usage limit exceeded BOINC manager shows "free, available to BOINC: 226.47 GB". Is there some limit on the output file size that is exceeded because using -v 6 ? I will post SoG results as soon as they are available. Tom |
Send message Joined: 3 Jan 07 Posts: 1451 Credit: 3,272,268 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The second one resulted in a computation error: Disk usage limit exceeded That will be the individual workunit limit: <rsc_disk_bound>33554432.000000</rsc_disk_bound> or 32 MByte. |
Send message Joined: 3 Jun 12 Posts: 64 Credit: 2,532,468 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The second one resulted in a computation error: Disk usage limit exceeded Hi Richard, Thanks for the explanation. Can I change this limit and if so, where and how ? Tom |
Send message Joined: 3 Jun 12 Posts: 64 Credit: 2,532,468 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why are the new (8.13/8.14) opencl_nvidia tasks (both SoG and sah) using so much CPU time ? I have specified -use_sleep, but I still seem to need nearly an entire CPU core to feed the GPU. And here are two SoG tasks (unfortunately both errored out with "Disk usage limit exceeded". I hope they still contain some useful information. https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24229292 https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24230098 I'm changing back to -v 1 to prevent further errors. If you need more examples or other options please let me know. Thank you for looking into this. Tom |
Send message Joined: 3 Jan 07 Posts: 1451 Credit: 3,272,268 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Can I change this limit and if so, where and how ? I wrote that up at the main project. Message 1796590 |
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Await new version. News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
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With r3482 I don't see memory leak for own iGPU. Worth to check on other iGPUs before full-scale deployment: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/J5f8/HGuG3Vp4R News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 10 Posts: 1149 Credit: 32,460,657 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Very happy to test if you can give me instructions on what I need to do to run this app rather than the stock one :-) |
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With r3482 I don't see memory leak for own iGPU. Worth to check on other iGPUs before full-scale deployment: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/J5f8/HGuG3Vp4R If I'm not half dead when I get home from work, I'll run it on my iGPU on main this evening. Just throwing it in, and editing my app_info. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 10 Posts: 1149 Credit: 32,460,657 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Very happy to test if you can give me instructions on what I need to do to run this app rather than the stock one :-) I took an educated guess and renamed the MB8_win_x86_SSSE3_OpenCL_Intel.aistub file to app_info.xml and copied that and the contents of Raistmer's zip file into my Beta project directory. When I restarted BOINC Manager it has downloaded new tasks but is now only running GPU tasks. Not sure what has happened to the tasks I already had downloaded. Obviously my guess was, at least partially, wrong. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get the CPU tasks running again please? Cheers SusieQ |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I would volunteer information if I had it, but I only run GPU work for some time now. Sorry. I tend to manually edit my app_info.xml I copy what i have from main and paste it into a notepad and then change the different parts of it to match Raistmer's new versions. |
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