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Message 56476 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 5:30:11 UTC - in response to Message 56475.  
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Are you running the SoG 1 at a time on your 980 or 2 at a time.

Looking at your times, wanted to compare.
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Message 56477 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 5:40:42 UTC - in response to Message 56476.  
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Are you running the SoG 1 at a time on your 980 or 2 at a time.

Looking at your times, wanted to compare.

2 at a time.

Can be seen in my stderr:

<core_client_version>7.4.42</core_client_version>
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Running on device number: 0
Number of app instances per device set to:2
Priority of worker thread raised successfully
Priority of process adjusted successfully, below normal priority class used
OpenCL platform detected: Intel(R) Corporation
OpenCL platform detected: NVIDIA Corporation
BOINC assigns device 0
Info: BOINC provided OpenCL device ID used
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Message 56502 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 20:42:49 UTC
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OK, SoG now seems to be the preferred app. I will now go to 3 at a time, and add
-sbs256 -hp to the mb_cmdline-8.07_windows_intel__opencl_nvidia_SoG.txt file.

May Dog protect me :-)

Edit: I will not add -sbs256 -hp for now. Just go for 3 at a time. Maybe I'll add that tomorrow, after having been at 3 at a time for 24 hours.
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Message 56505 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 21:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 56502.  


Edit: I will not add -sbs256 -hp for now. Just go for 3 at a time. Maybe I'll add that tomorrow, after having been at 3 at a time for 24 hours.


If GPU already loaded ~100% hardly 3 at time will do speedup. -sbs tuning and oclFFT tuning can improve speed further cause they control different areas of app.
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Message 56508 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 56505.  
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Let me know what you find
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Message 56509 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:06:31 UTC - in response to Message 56505.  


Edit: I will not add -sbs256 -hp for now. Just go for 3 at a time. Maybe I'll add that tomorrow, after having been at 3 at a time for 24 hours.


If GPU already loaded ~100% hardly 3 at time will do speedup. -sbs tuning and oclFFT tuning can improve speed further cause they control different areas of app.


3 at a time did speedup.

1 on 3 minutes 40 seconds
2 on 6 minutes 50-55 seconds
3 on 10 minutes 10-20 seconds

oclFFT tuning will have to wait until the appropriate readme file for this app is available.
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Message 56510 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:17:41 UTC - in response to Message 56509.  


oclFFT tuning will have to wait until the appropriate readme file for this app is available.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZkvwecPl21Ig6H66CUInDyEQnV_HJE1mKIqY6FwwikY/edit?usp=sharing
This class of options tunes oclFFT performance
-oclfft_tune_gr N : Global radix
-oclfft_tune_lr N : Local radix
-oclfft_tune_wg N : Workgroup size
-oclfft_tune_ls N : Max size of local memory FFT
-oclfft_tune_bn N : Number of local memory banks
-oclfft_tune_cw N : Memory coalesce width

That's all available for this options set.
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Message 56511 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:20:43 UTC - in response to Message 56510.  


oclFFT tuning will have to wait until the appropriate readme file for this app is available.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZkvwecPl21Ig6H66CUInDyEQnV_HJE1mKIqY6FwwikY/edit?usp=sharing
This class of options tunes oclFFT performance
-oclfft_tune_gr N : Global radix
-oclfft_tune_lr N : Local radix
-oclfft_tune_wg N : Workgroup size
-oclfft_tune_ls N : Max size of local memory FFT
-oclfft_tune_bn N : Number of local memory banks
-oclfft_tune_cw N : Memory coalesce width

That's all available for this options set.


Thanks, that's all good and well, but it's Chinese to me. I haven't got a clue which settings should be appropriate for my GTX980.
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Message 56512 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 56510.  


oclFFT tuning will have to wait until the appropriate readme file for this app is available.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZkvwecPl21Ig6H66CUInDyEQnV_HJE1mKIqY6FwwikY/edit?usp=sharing
This class of options tunes oclFFT performance

Spreadsheet only addresses SSE2 on ATI cards??
If I can help out by testing something, please let me know.
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Message 56513 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:32:10 UTC - in response to Message 56511.  


Thanks, that's all good and well, but it's Chinese to me. I haven't got a clue which settings should be appropriate for my GTX980.


I think no one have until tested. But cause quite a lot combos can return invalid data it's more suitable for offline testing. As first approximation same values that Mike recommends for high-end ATi GPUs can be tried.
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Message 56514 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:34:08 UTC - in response to Message 56512.  


Spreadsheet only addresses SSE2 on ATI cards??

There is no "SSE2 on ATi card" Test was done with listed app on C-60 APU. SSE2 is irrelevant. No available systematic data for NV (at least no one cared to share).
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Message 56515 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 22:37:18 UTC - in response to Message 56513.  


Thanks, that's all good and well, but it's Chinese to me. I haven't got a clue which settings should be appropriate for my GTX980.


I think no one have until tested. But cause quite a lot combos can return invalid data it's more suitable for offline testing. As first approximation same values that Mike recommends for high-end ATi GPUs can be tried.


I found this in the readme file "ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_ATI.txt" in the latest installer. I'll try the high-end settings. Again, may Dog protect me :-)

============= NV specific info ================

Known issues:

With NV drivers past 267.xx GPU usage can be low if CPU fully used with another loads.
App performance can be increased by using -cpu_lock switch in this case, and CPU time
savings are possible with -use_sleep switch.

Suggested command line switches:

Entry Level cards NV x20 x30 x40
-sbs 128 -spike_fft_thresh 2048 -tune 1 2 1 16
(*requires testing)

Mid range cards x50 x60 x70
-sbs 192 -spike_fft_thresh 2048 -tune 1 64 1 4
(*requires testing)

High end cards x8x 780TI Titan / Titan Z
-sbs 256 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64
(*requires testing)

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Message 56516 - Posted: 4 Feb 2016, 23:04:35 UTC
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Geeze: That setting shaved more than a minute from the approx 10 minutes 20-30 seconds, running 3 at a time.

CPU usage went up a bit to approx 14-17%, from 9-10%, but that doesn't really bother me. Edit: Strike that. It was only the first tasks, while the .bin files was being recompiled.

So, for my GTX980 Strix, this setting seems to work well:

-sbs 256 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64

I also have -instances_per_device 3 in the settings, just to make it visible in the stderr, the number of tasks I run simultaneously.

Edit: Dropping -sbs 256 from the settings, (going to default 128), seems to have made it even faster.
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Message 56519 - Posted: 5 Feb 2016, 5:05:17 UTC - in response to Message 56516.  

Is this something that will translate over to ATI cards or will it be Nvidia specific?

Thanks,

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Message 56522 - Posted: 5 Feb 2016, 13:20:15 UTC - in response to Message 56515.  
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Thanks, that's all good and well, but it's Chinese to me. I haven't got a clue which settings should be appropriate for my GTX980.


I think no one have until tested. But cause quite a lot combos can return invalid data it's more suitable for offline testing. As first approximation same values that Mike recommends for high-end ATi GPUs can be tried.


I found this in the readme file "ReadMe_MultiBeam_OpenCL_ATI.txt" in the latest installer. I'll try the high-end settings. Again, may Dog protect me :-)

============= NV specific info ================

Known issues:

With NV drivers past 267.xx GPU usage can be low if CPU fully used with another loads.
App performance can be increased by using -cpu_lock switch in this case, and CPU time
savings are possible with -use_sleep switch.

Suggested command line switches:

Entry Level cards NV x20 x30 x40
-sbs 128 -spike_fft_thresh 2048 -tune 1 2 1 16
(*requires testing)

Mid range cards x50 x60 x70
-sbs 192 -spike_fft_thresh 2048 -tune 1 64 1 4
(*requires testing)

High end cards x8x 780TI Titan / Titan Z
-sbs 256 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64
(*requires testing)

===============================================


I have tested it on a 980 also.
Otherwise there were a 980 section as well.

-sbs value is host dependend.
On my GPU -sbs 384 is fastest.
Thats why i added "requires testing" to the read me.
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Message 56526 - Posted: 5 Feb 2016, 16:12:33 UTC - in response to Message 56522.  


I have tested it on a 980 also.
Otherwise there were a 980 section as well.

-sbs value is host dependend.
On my GPU -sbs 384 is fastest.
Thats why i added "requires testing" to the read me.


Thanks Mike. You're doing a good job with all these testings of various "extra" settings.

BETA is out of work for the moment, so I couldn't continue testing. Let's hope somone kicks the splitters, so I can continue with my SoG crunching.
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Message 56568 - Posted: 8 Feb 2016, 11:33:32 UTC

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You're supplied an app_info.xml with the SETI@home v8 v8.00 (armv6l)arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf app, I found it in the slot directory as well as the project directory, and referenced in the client_state.xml

Was that intentional?, Now if anyone restarts Boinc (or the host) on a host that has had that app then they switch to anonymous platform, and will remain only using that app.

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Message 56576 - Posted: 8 Feb 2016, 17:49:49 UTC

Hi all!

I received this message today -

Mon Feb 8 09:28:23 2016 | SETI@home Beta Test | [coproc] ATI instance 0: confirming 1.000000 instance for 23ap11ag.31103.495.3.37.178_0
Mon Feb 8 09:29:19 2016 | SETI@home Beta Test | Task postponed: Suspicious spike results, host needs reboot or maintenance


Any idea what this means?

My configuration:
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5] (8 processors)
AMD Radeon HD 4850 (512MB) OpenCL: 1.0
Darwin 15.3.0
BOIC 7.6.22
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Message 56578 - Posted: 8 Feb 2016, 18:57:14 UTC - in response to Message 56568.  

Eric,

You're supplied an app_info.xml with the SETI@home v8 v8.00 (armv6l)arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf app, I found it in the slot directory as well as the project directory, and referenced in the client_state.xml



Unintentional. :( Will be releasing new version today.
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Message 56593 - Posted: 9 Feb 2016, 13:26:08 UTC - in response to Message 56578.  

And what about limited work supply? Intentional or not? ;)
Cause my host can't get work for awhile already...
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