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Message 46003 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 7:36:06 UTC
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And some anoher question:

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Max tasks per day 39
Number of tasks today 0
Consecutive valid tasks 6
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Среднее оборотное время 2.74 days


Will scheduler take into account relative APR difference between different kinds of apps and schedule AP preferable over MB for ATi card if both are available and permitted as in this case ?
It would be good if yes. Then we would have good example of positive load balancing where each device recives that type of work it can do better.
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Message 46004 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 14:35:30 UTC - in response to Message 46000.  
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I'll code that up tomorrow!

<edit>Anyone want to try the same test on recent NVIDIA cards?</edit>


Well, since I'm on Boinc 6, I will probably not benefit from that anyhow, since I don't get any V7 MB tasks at all, since the release of 7.03. However for others on Boinc 7, and with relatively modern ATI cards, it would likely be a great improvemement.
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Message 46005 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 20:01:38 UTC

One host has found its correct app versions meanwhile. Now will allow AstroPulse, too.
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SETI@home v7 7.04 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (opencl_ati_cat132)
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Message 46007 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 21:29:34 UTC

Time to start the feeder perhaps, after the outage?


786	SETI@home Beta Test	2013-05-21 23:26	update requested by user	
787	SETI@home Beta Test	2013-05-21 23:26	Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.	
788	SETI@home Beta Test	2013-05-21 23:26	Reporting 12 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for GPU	
789	SETI@home Beta Test	2013-05-21 23:26	Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks	
790	SETI@home Beta Test	2013-05-21 23:26	Message from server: Server error: feeder not running	

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Message 46008 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 0:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 46007.  

New scheduler is on that should give VLAR results to AMD GPUs with CAL_TARGET > 19. Let me know if anyone sees any problems.

Continue to point out machines that get the wrong work. I'm trying to figure out a change that will prevent machines that error out on a specific version from getting any work for that version. As it is now, their daily quota will go down to 1, but they'll still get one result per day for that version.
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Message 46009 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 0:25:56 UTC - in response to Message 46003.  

Will scheduler take into account relative APR difference between different kinds of apps and schedule AP preferable over MB for ATi card if both are available and permitted as in this case ?
It would be good if yes.


I agree, but unfortunately the scheduler was written to not be that smart. It just does a scan through the results in the shared memory, chooses the best application for that result, and checks whether there is more CPU/GPU time still available. If so it checks the next result.

It would be a major change to the structure to get it to choose the best overall app first, then look for results available for that app. And David probably wouldn't agree to that large of a change.
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Message 46010 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 1:13:47 UTC
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As I expected, I'm not gettin any V7 tasks for my host http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=57178 Because I'm running Boinc 6, I guess.

Well, off to main then with 100% of my HD7870.
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Message 46011 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 3:52:17 UTC - in response to Message 46010.  

Yep, that is definitely the reason. I may ponder a little on whether some of the higher v6 clients can be brought into the action without threatening to crash too many machines. That's farther down the road then decided what to do about app versions that don't run.

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Message 46012 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 3:59:56 UTC - in response to Message 46008.  
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Continue to point out machines that get the wrong work. I'm trying to figure out a change that will prevent machines that error out on a specific version from getting any work for that version. As it is now, their daily quota will go down to 1, but they'll still get one result per day for that version.

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=61050 did get Brook+ libs for AP app (see below). BOINC is at 6.10.58, Cat 11.12 is last with OpenCL for XPx64.

05/22/13 05:44:42		ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5x00 series (Redwood) (CAL version 1.4.1646, 1024MB, 620 GFLOPS peak)
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05/22/13 05:46:49	SETI@home Beta Test	Finished download of brook_cal.dll
05/22/13 05:46:49	SETI@home Beta Test	Started download of brook.dll

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Message 46013 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 4:38:43 UTC - in response to Message 46010.  

As I expected, I'm not gettin any V7 tasks for my host http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=57178 Because I'm running Boinc 6, I guess.

Well, off to main then with 100% of my HD7870.



There now is BM 7.0.64 and it does not have the REC-based shedule anymore.
Sten, I'd say it may be worth testing.

You can always downgrade.
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Message 46014 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 5:39:35 UTC - in response to Message 46008.  

New scheduler is on that should give VLAR results to AMD GPUs with CAL_TARGET > 19. Let me know if anyone sees any problems.

Continue to point out machines that get the wrong work. I'm trying to figure out a change that will prevent machines that error out on a specific version from getting any work for that version. As it is now, their daily quota will go down to 1, but they'll still get one result per day for that version.


1) You could try to decrease CAL target gradually. Cause even my HD6950 dealed with VLARs just fine when they were available.

2)It's important to be sure that BOINC make decision based on constant (or quite regular ) failures, not on few single cases. Or it will be another "de-optimization".
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Message 46015 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 6:17:04 UTC - in response to Message 46014.  

Yes, I was thinking of "max tasks per day" of 1 and "consecutive valid tasks" of 0 as an indicator of failure. And in that case, I would give that app version 0.1 GFLOP 99% of the time and standard estimated flops the other 1% of the time.
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Message 46016 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 6:59:26 UTC - in response to Message 46013.  

There now is BM 7.0.64 and it does not have the REC-based shedule anymore.

Untrue.
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Message 46020 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 12:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 46011.  
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Yep, that is definitely the reason. I may ponder a little on whether some of the higher v6 clients can be brought into the action without threatening to crash too many machines. That's farther down the road then decided what to do about app versions that don't run.

Ah well, nothing to do about that then. I'm done here it seems when it comes to GPU testing. Leaving 2 cores to run Beta MB7 on the CPU though.

I may upgrade to Boinc 7 one day, but unlikely not before "the cows comes home" though.
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Message 46021 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 15:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 46012.  

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=61050 did get Brook+ libs for AP app (see below). BOINC is at 6.10.58, Cat 11.12 is last with OpenCL for XPx64.

05/22/13 05:44:42		ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5x00 series (Redwood) (CAL version 1.4.1646, 1024MB, 620 GFLOPS peak)
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05/22/13 05:46:49	SETI@home Beta Test	Finished download of brook_cal.dll
05/22/13 05:46:49	SETI@home Beta Test	Started download of brook.dll

Upon updating BOINC to 6.10.60, reset the project to start over from cleaned Beta directory. Maybe the older apps still in the project directory caused the unwanted library downloads.
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Message 46022 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 20:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 46021.  

A bunch of VLARs was holding things up again. I cleared them out.
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Message 46023 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 20:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 46022.  

A bunch of VLARs was holding things up again. I cleared them out.

Was that clearout meant to affect tasks already started?

Never mind, but it caused an interesting stderr for task 13975057. Was somebody talking about a race condition?
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Message 46025 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 22:06:35 UTC - in response to Message 46023.  

Any that had a result that hadn't been sent to a wingman got cancelled as well. Sorry about that. That is a weird stderr.
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Message 46026 - Posted: 23 May 2013, 4:21:16 UTC - in response to Message 46016.  

There now is BM 7.0.64 and it does not have the REC-based shedule anymore.

Untrue.


Ok.

Workfetch procedure is in my opinion alot better.
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Message 46027 - Posted: 23 May 2013, 6:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 46022.  

A bunch of VLARs was holding things up again. I cleared them out.

But how about to allow some of ATi GPUs to crunch them ?
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