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Message 1930357 - Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 19:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 1930356.  

Even better, declare all religions as terrorist organisations & seize their funds.

Explain why ALL Religions are "terrorist organizations".

Christianity - Mathew 10:34

Therefore at present...

ALL Religions Organization are the same as ISIS?

I don't know enough about other religions, so I only gave an answer for the one I do know something about.

Therefore, your attack against present day Religion. Was only directed against Christian posters and their Religion.

I am an Atheist. But I am a Tolerant Atheist.

As an atheist, who was brought up in a very christian household, I take it as my right to use a sharp stick to poke holes in the supposed beliefs of the churches and their followers.

I also quote Romans 16:1 to those that oppose women priests.
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Message 1930358 - Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 19:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 1930339.  

Even better, declare all religions as terrorist organisations & seize their funds.

Explain why ALL Religions are "terrorist organizations".
Your lack of comprehension is terrifying! NOTICE the word "Declare". Where does it state "ALL religions are terrorist organisations"?
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Message 1930361 - Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 19:58:09 UTC

To be fair to moomin's thread, wouldn't it be best to post on "God or Not" as this is off topic now..
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Message 1930362 - Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 20:01:53 UTC
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If it was only the problem with Religion...
Most of the parties fighting in Syria is not religous at all.
And for instance al-Assad is an secular Alawite , and Alawism is not an admitted branch of Islam because all Islamic sects consider them non-muslims.
Syria war: A brief guide to who's fighting whom
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39528673
On the Syrian government's side, we have:
Russia (carries out air strikes and provides political support at the UN)
Iran (provides arms, credit, military advisers and reportedly combat troops)
Hezbollah (The Lebanese Shia movement has sent thousands of fighters)
Shia Muslim militias (recruited by Iran from Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen)

And, on the side of the rebels* we have:
Turkey (provides arms, military and political support)
Gulf Arab states (provide money and weapons)
The US (provides arms, training and military assistance to "moderate" groups)
Jordan (provides logistical support and training)
*The term "rebels" is used to describe a huge and diverse array of fighters, some of whom co-operate with jihadists like those from Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, an al-Qaeda-linked alliance. Different foreign states often back different rebel factions
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Message 1930368 - Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 20:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 1930364.  

I wonder why the Syrian war is called the Syrian Civil War.
"A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same state or country"
Are Iran, Russia, Turkey, the US, UK, and France organized groups within Syria?
Perhaps, but when so many nations are fighting each other it could easily be a war between nations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
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Message 1930391 - Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 22:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 1930379.  
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Syria is only a part of a region-wide war. Which has lasted over 1000 years among different ethnic, religious and cultural groups.
Very much like Europe where we have had region-wide wars for over 1000 years.
I guess every 10 to 20 years or so an ethnic, religious or cultural war pop ups.
Just in my lifetime there has been 4 war. At Cyprus in the 60's, Cyprus again in the 70's, the Balkans in the 90's and now Ukraine. (Have I missed one?)
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Message 1930461 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 6:46:14 UTC - in response to Message 1930391.  

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Message 1930462 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 6:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1930391.  

Syria is only a part of a region-wide war. Which has lasted over 1000 years among different ethnic, religious and cultural groups.
Very much like Europe where we have had region-wide wars for over 1000 years.
I guess every 10 to 20 years or so an ethnic, religious or cultural war pop ups.
Just in my lifetime there has been 4 war. At Cyprus in the 60's, Cyprus again in the 70's, the Balkans in the 90's and now Ukraine. (Have I missed one?)



Aaaaaaaand this. I forgot to list this.

Turkey vs. Greece.
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Message 1930487 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 9:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 1930462.  
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Aaaaaaaand this. I forgot to list this.
Turkey vs. Greece.

That was the war in Cyprus 1974 that I mentioned. Actually I was in Greece in the archipelago when it happened.
The big issue then was that both Greece and Turkey was and are members of NATO.
When Turkey invaded all Americans left the island we stayed at next morning.
Rather spooky really and when we got back to Athens some days later we found out that the Swedish embassy had evacuated all Swedish citizens from Greece. Almost all citizens:)
Anyway. We weren't the only one so they arranged an extra plane.

Northern Ireland. I didn't forgot but I was thinking if it was a region-wide conflict with several nations.
Actually it was with IRA attacks both in Northern Ireland and England.

Adding the war in Georgia 2008...

The list of conflicts in Europe is rather "impressive".
And so is the list of modern conflicts in the Middle East
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_conflicts_in_the_Middle_East
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Message 1930528 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 13:44:12 UTC - in response to Message 1930487.  

The Orange Chump will break out the war for let end to all the wars.

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Message 1930531 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 13:58:30 UTC - in response to Message 1930528.  

He is a Genius and from Karlstad so what could possibly go wrong:)
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Message 1930533 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:01:53 UTC - in response to Message 1930531.  

It's a 6D Chess.
trust the plan.

With love,
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Message 1930534 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 1930532.  
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Message 1930537 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 1930532.  

He is a Genius and from Karlstad so what could possibly go wrong:)

The same question must be asked of the Leaders of France and the UK.

It's not the first time both France and Britain are trying to "end" wars in the Middle East.
Britain redraw the map after WWI I think resulting in that nations and ethnic groups got divided.
And for instance Kurdistan (parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran) disappeared from the map.
France "owned" Lebanon and Syria.
Well, this is the legacy.
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Message 1930539 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:23:38 UTC
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Message 1930542 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:32:16 UTC - in response to Message 1930534.  

'''''''''''''Legal and moral''''''''''''
I think the strike was morally correct.
Legal? Not according to international laws.
There is no evidence of who did the CW attack.
Russia and Syria even say they there were none.
Only today or tomorrow OPCW are allowed to invistigate the site.
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Message 1930543 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 1930542.  

But if I throw a missile and hit the chemical weapons depots, then the toxic cloud expands and ends up trying more victims. This does not make sense.
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Message 1930546 - Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 14:47:01 UTC - in response to Message 1930543.  

Hmm... I don't think that anybody has thought of that possibility.
So now we have one more alleged gas attack at hand in Syria.
Or at least three more places for OPWC to investigate.
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