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Message 1983285 - Posted: 4 Mar 2019, 0:10:44 UTC

Yep, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are the biggest funders of terrorist groups in the Middle East so that they are left alone, but some tend to ignore this important fact and support them anyway.
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Message 1983431 - Posted: 4 Mar 2019, 20:16:30 UTC

I'm sure that you'd find other reasons to stick your noses in there.
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Message 1987440 - Posted: 27 Mar 2019, 15:34:23 UTC

United Nations Security Council (UNSC) Holds Meeting on Syria Amid US Recognition of Golan Heights.
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Message 1993582 - Posted: 12 May 2019, 21:14:54 UTC

Trump's terrorist mate, Netanyahu, is now going to build a new settlement in the disputed Golan Heights and it's going to be named after v2.0.

Israel says site found for Golan's 'Trump' settlement.

No peace will ever be found that way, in fact it'll just make matters over there worse.
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Message 1993587 - Posted: 12 May 2019, 21:37:44 UTC - in response to Message 1993582.  

Hmm.. Lebensraum comes to mind.
Lebensraum, a slogan that goes back to Karl Haushof's geopolitical school, which operated with "the people's natural right to living space". Lebensraum became a central concept in national socialist ideology. The requirement for Lebensraum was, among other things, formulated in point three in the party program 1920.
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Message 1993649 - Posted: 13 May 2019, 17:18:25 UTC

WAR
https://apnews.com/3884ea5ef0084d7a9e8a7d48c03fb69e
FUJAIRAH, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Two Saudi oil tankers and a Norwegian-flagged vessel were damaged in what Gulf officials described Monday as a “sabotage” attack off the coast of the United Arab Emirates. While details of the incident remain unclear, it raised risks for shippers in a region vital to global energy supplies at a time of increasing tensions between the U.S. and Iran over its unraveling nuclear deal with world powers.

The U.S. issued a new warning to sailors as the UAE’s regional allies condemned Sunday’s alleged attack that the UAE says targeted four ships off the coast of its port city of Fujairah.

It came just hours after Iranian and Lebanese media outlets aired false reports of explosions at the port.
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Message 1993881 - Posted: 15 May 2019, 17:46:57 UTC
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Why is it that it is always the children that are far more clear headed and sensible than the politicians and religious clerics in power?


How tech is bringing Israelis and Palestinians together

Israeli and Palestinian youths are joining together, learning new skills and engaging in conflict resolution dialogue thanks to a number of new technology partnerships in the troubled region. Can tech really make a difference?

Israel may be known as the Start-up Nation, famed for its tech start-ups that are supported by one of the largest venture-capital industries per capita in the world. But Israeli-Palestinian relations have been relentlessly grim ever since the foundation of Israel in 1948 and the subsequent Arab-Israeli conflict that has been rumbling on ever since. Initiatives like Tech2Peace are trying to bridge divides between the two communities.

"I joined the programme alone, but made many great friends from both Palestine and Israel, who I am in touch with today,"...



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Message 1994296 - Posted: 19 May 2019, 6:28:25 UTC - in response to Message 1993881.  

Why is it that it is always the children that are far more clear headed and sensible than the politicians and religious clerics in power?

They haven't been taught to hate yet.
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Message 1994426 - Posted: 20 May 2019, 11:17:40 UTC - in response to Message 1994296.  
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Why is it that it is always the children that are far more clear headed and sensible than the politicians and religious clerics in power?

They haven't been taught to hate yet.

Yes...

We have that dysfunctional problem in Northern Ireland here... Especially so with the stark dark big overbearing murals daubed directly outside or near to children's schools vengefully proclaiming "FOREVER. Remember." to perpetuate a deadly sordid past. (Here's one of the brighter examples.)

Far better is to work towards and look forward to a better future for ALL.


So how do we educate for that?

How do we dismantle the old tyrannies?


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Message 1994427 - Posted: 20 May 2019, 12:06:44 UTC - in response to Message 1994426.  
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How do we dismantle the old tyrannies?

For our example in Northern Ireland, that is still a story to unfold:

"... semantics matter. Just as the reality of the conflicts in the Mideast have little to do with the Jewish and Muslim faiths..."


These murals lie at the center of a debate over Northern Ireland’s future

In Belfast, the capital of Northern Ireland, hundreds of colorful murals line the city’s streets, detailing a century’s worth of conflict and political division...

... “If you were told for your whole lifetime, ‘Don’t go there, it’s very dangerous,’ then today, ‘The gates are open, you can come across,’ it’s very difficult for a whole generation of people to become convinced of that,”...



Makeover for murals in Northern Ireland

Wall art erected during, and inspired by, the Troubles in Northern Ireland is set to be removed.

Belfast City Council is expected to announce this week that paramilitary murals in Shankill Road are to be replaced with material relating to the area's social, cultural and industrial heritage...



The changing faces of Northern Ireland's murals

In Northern Ireland, politics and art have long made for natural bedfellows. A country historically divided along religious and political lines, both the Protestant UK Unionist population and the Catholic Irish Republican community have utilised the arts in all their forms to express their trenchant viewpoints...

... for example, orange bands across Northern Ireland celebrate King William of Orange’s significant victory over King James II, the last Roman Catholic British monarch, at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690...

... More recently, however, the old sectarian (and, in some cases, frankly terrifying) imagery spotted in almost every quarter of the city has begun to be replaced by more politically-expedient images that reflect Northern Ireland’s transformation from the Troubles to the 21st century...



Absorbing the intense murals of Northern Ireland’s troubled divide

... politically charged street murals of the past and present. Through potent visual messaging, they fervidly expressed the ideologies of the two sides of the region’s continually evolving conflict. It struck me how the most radical views that breed war repeatedly share the same character traits, as chillingly echoed throughout the political discourse of today...

... semantics matter. Just as the reality of the conflicts in the Mideast have little to do with the Jewish and Muslim faiths, the Troubles were not about the religious differences between Catholics and Protestants, nor were they a multinational divide between the Irish and British...



In Northern Ireland, Vigilante Violence Keeps Terrorizing Communities

... Unlike the violence that defined the Troubles, when members of different religious communities attacked each other in a struggle over British control of Northern Ireland, in these cases the assailants target their own.

“It’s not sectarian at all. What this is, is Catholic on Catholic, Protestant on Protestant,” Harbinson said. “It’s about control within their own communities.”

Northern Ireland’s struggle with paramilitaries illustrates just how complicated it is to end a war, even in the event of a successful peace deal...




Now all a sad dark game of drugs wars and guns?



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Message 1994465 - Posted: 20 May 2019, 16:39:14 UTC

The Northern Ireland situation has much in common with the Middle East situation in that they share the same common denominator: British bureaucracy
"WE know best"
"Draw lines on maps"
"Divide & conquer"

When those mantras fail, send in the troops.
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Message 1997746 - Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 4:07:33 UTC

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/saudi-arabia-intercepted-houthi-drones-190611030520618.html
Saudi air defence forces on Monday intercepted two drones launched by Houthi rebels from neighbouring Yemen, state media reported, as the Iran-aligned group steps up attacks on the kingdom.

The drones targeted Khamis Mushait in the kingdom's south and caused no damage or casualties, the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen said in a brief statement released early on Tuesday by the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA).

The rebels, who control large parts of the country including the capital Sanaa, said earlier via their news outlet Almasirah that they had targeted the King Khalid airbase near Khamis Mushait.
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Message 1997758 - Posted: 11 Jun 2019, 5:49:22 UTC - in response to Message 1997746.  
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/saudi-arabia-intercepted-houthi-drones-190611030520618.html
Saudi air defence forces on Monday intercepted two drones launched by Houthi rebels from neighbouring Yemen, state media reported, as the Iran-aligned group steps up attacks on the kingdom.

The drones targeted Khamis Mushait in the kingdom's south and caused no damage or casualties, the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen said in a brief statement released early on Tuesday by the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA).

The rebels, who control large parts of the country including the capital Sanaa, said earlier via their news outlet Almasirah that they had targeted the King Khalid airbase near Khamis Mushait.
If those drones were proved to be Saudi bought and used against them then I'll really have a good belly laugh.

Weapons bought by the Saudi's often turn up in others hands and most of them are supplied by the U.S. to start with and the U.S. want to sell them more (well v2.0 does anyway).
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Message 1998064 - Posted: 13 Jun 2019, 18:52:00 UTC

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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Two oil tankers near the strategic Strait of Hormuz came under a suspected attack Thursday, setting one of them ablaze in the latest mysterious assault targeting vessels in a region crucial to global energy supplies amid heightened tension between Iran and the U.S.
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Message 1998429 - Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 17:23:46 UTC - in response to Message 1994427.  

How do we dismantle the old tyrannies?

For our example in Northern Ireland, that is still a story to unfold:

"... semantics matter. Just as the reality of the conflicts in the Mideast have little to do with the Jewish and Muslim faiths..."


These murals lie at the center of a debate over Northern Ireland’s future

In Belfast, the capital of Northern Ireland, hundreds of colorful murals line the city’s streets, detailing a century’s worth of conflict and political division...

... “If you were told for your whole lifetime, ‘Don’t go there, it’s very dangerous,’ then today, ‘The gates are open, you can come across,’ it’s very difficult for a whole generation of people to become convinced of that,”...



Makeover for murals in Northern Ireland

Wall art erected during, and inspired by, the Troubles in Northern Ireland is set to be removed.

Belfast City Council is expected to announce this week that paramilitary murals in Shankill Road are to be replaced with material relating to the area's social, cultural and industrial heritage...



The changing faces of Northern Ireland's murals

In Northern Ireland, politics and art have long made for natural bedfellows. A country historically divided along religious and political lines, both the Protestant UK Unionist population and the Catholic Irish Republican community have utilised the arts in all their forms to express their trenchant viewpoints...

... for example, orange bands across Northern Ireland celebrate King William of Orange’s significant victory over King James II, the last Roman Catholic British monarch, at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690...

... More recently, however, the old sectarian (and, in some cases, frankly terrifying) imagery spotted in almost every quarter of the city has begun to be replaced by more politically-expedient images that reflect Northern Ireland’s transformation from the Troubles to the 21st century...



Absorbing the intense murals of Northern Ireland’s troubled divide

... politically charged street murals of the past and present. Through potent visual messaging, they fervidly expressed the ideologies of the two sides of the region’s continually evolving conflict. It struck me how the most radical views that breed war repeatedly share the same character traits, as chillingly echoed throughout the political discourse of today...

... semantics matter. Just as the reality of the conflicts in the Mideast have little to do with the Jewish and Muslim faiths, the Troubles were not about the religious differences between Catholics and Protestants, nor were they a multinational divide between the Irish and British...



In Northern Ireland, Vigilante Violence Keeps Terrorizing Communities

... Unlike the violence that defined the Troubles, when members of different religious communities attacked each other in a struggle over British control of Northern Ireland, in these cases the assailants target their own.

“It’s not sectarian at all. What this is, is Catholic on Catholic, Protestant on Protestant,” Harbinson said. “It’s about control within their own communities.”

Northern Ireland’s struggle with paramilitaries illustrates just how complicated it is to end a war, even in the event of a successful peace deal...


And that is all a 'sensitive' 'issue':


Fodor's Travel removes 'offensive' Belfast murals guide

A world-renowned travel guide is to remove content about Belfast murals after it was described as "highly inaccurate and offensive".

The content on Fodor's Travel website and in their books on Ireland, said nationalist murals "often aspire to the heights of Sistine Chapel-lite".

It said loyalist murals "sometimes resemble war comics without the humour"....




And yet the murals remain...

Now all a sad dark game of drugs wars and guns?



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