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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Why did it take all that effort just to get this satisfactory answer? Because of the well documented nature of the person you were dealing with. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
* To arrest a Nixon, Clinton, Trump, et al. Nixon, Clinton, Trump. et al, would first have to be Impeached/Convicted.Are you sure about that? Maybe you better have a read on Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997). Now that you read and understood the unanimous decision are you sure he can't be arrested? |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Unless criminal charges are forthcoming. I have not asked for the resignation of Conners or Frankin, Why do you believe it was the Trump and Moore part that confused me and not the rest of your position? Why do you think I spoke up and asked for clarification? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34845 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Oh yes, the OANN is well known as just another fake news outlet for Trump's views just like Breibart. LOL One America News Network Roy Moore sexual misconduct report controversy But then again, I can see why those with very questionable ethics and morals would believe anything that came out of that site as they sink further down the social sewer. ;-) Cheers. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Unless criminal charges are forthcoming. I have not asked for the resignation of Conners or Frankin, There's no equation of Moore and Trump. There's an equation of sexual harassment. Sorry if you couldn't see that. Perhaps asking for clarification next time would help the conversation along. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Too bad you didn't read it. It references Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731 (1982) which clearly states so. Wiki for the legalese challenged https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_v._Fitzgerald wrote: The court emphasized that the President is not immune from criminal charges stemming from his official (or unofficial) acts while in office. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Unless criminal charges are forthcoming. I have not asked for the resignation of Conners or Frankin, I placed them in the same sentence because you were asking for Moore to drop out (and for Trump to condemn him) and I couldn't see why you don't feel the same way toward Trump. Didn't we just go through this? |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Unless criminal charges are forthcoming. I have not asked for the resignation of Conners or Frankin, Nope. That's new too. I couldn't see why you'd want Trump to attack Moore but not have Moore drop out of the race. Again, a position you hold but you don't bother to explain until much later. Sorry again that it takes this much effort just to have a conversation with you. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Too bad you didn't read it. It references Nixon v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 731 (1982) which clearly states so. Too bad you didn't read the opening clause of that ... In defining the scope of an official's absolute privilege, this Court has recognized that the sphere of protected action must be related closely to the immunity's justifying purposes. Frequently our decisions have held that an official's absolute immunity should extend only to acts in performance of particular functions of his office. Precisely what was said in Jones. So if say murder isn't an act in performance of particular functions of his office he is subject to arrest and trial. [It's why shrub ran to lawyers to get opinions that his targeted actions were official business] Jones goes on the state that where the Judicial function does not overlap the executive function, privilege does not exist. A trial is not an executive function. Hence the civil suit went forward. Same applies to a criminal one. About the only thing it ends up saying is he couldn't be jailed while awaiting trial, he would be out of own recognizance. Next we will be hearing from an "always tRumper" that Sexual Harassment is a function of POTUS I suppose. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sorry again that it takes this much effort just to have a conversation with you.I frequently wonder if that isn't the intention. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
For weeks now there is a movement called #metoo. Strange that nobody here has mentioned about it. Here you can read about it everyday in every news media. For instance SVT (Swedish equivalent to British BBC). #metoo soon brings together all industries in Sweden - here is the listhttps://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svt.se%2Fnyheter%2Finrikes%2Fmetoo-samlar-snart-alla-branscher-i-sverige-har-ar-listan&edit-text=&authuser=0 |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34845 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Sorry again that it takes this much effort just to have a conversation with you.I frequently wonder if that isn't the intention. I came to a conclusion a long while back that Clyde doesn't know how to have a conversation with anyone so I gave up replying to his silly posts. ;-) Cheers. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
a follower of Moore no doubt http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42157810 |
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Certainly dA 'EMPOWERED' Leaders of Australia; Canada; and EU Know ALL 'Bout this 'Stuff'. Thank Heaven fO..... Oh Maurice. Who Knew? Who Knows Now? http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/11/29/everyone-knew-matt-lauers-sexual-harassment-lair-nbc-eager-keep-happy Helluva Lotta Yap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
a follower of Moore no doubt http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42157810 A follower? To what? I don't get it. Do you mean Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore? But Al Franken do the same. And your precious new president (and prevoius ones) do the same. Heck. Every man with some power or having a position are doing the same whatever country that is. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Nope. That's new too. I couldn't see why you'd want Trump to attack Moore but not have Moore drop out of the race. Again, a position you hold but you don't bother to explain until much later. Sorry again that it takes this much effort just to have a conversation with you. ... or it could just be bad assumptions on my part due to an inability on your part to properly express your ideas and positions. Then again, what you just said about secular ideologues and religious fanatics who can't seem to understand anyone who doesn't fit into their shallow worldviews seems to fit yourself to a T, so keep on showing us how it's done. You're doing great! |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I properly express my opinions. Yeah you do! You express your opinions so well that nobody here has ever misunderstood what you're saying. Since you are the most eloquent speaker on this forum, I must bow my head in shame now that you've busted me since your record and reputation speaks for itself. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19074 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I was only referring to Trump not attacking Moore. You expect one non-convicted sexual predator to verbally attack another non-convicted sexual predator? What planet do you live on? They normally congregate together on the dark side, presumably for more and more explicit locker room talk etc. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30674 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I was only referring to Trump not attacking Moore. I thought they swapped techniques at those gatherings. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19074 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I was only referring to Trump not attacking Moore. Probably and more... It's why I put the etc. in there, so that others could put their own lurid imaginings in there. |
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