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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Dear Tsar Putin... The USA is not Military Irrelevant Western Europe. Dear Mr Clyde. Could you rephrase that? I don't understand... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Russia, nor any other Military, or Combinations of Military, minus the USA. Have the military logistics to conduct an International War. As far as I know it's only the US that are waging an International War. With support from some NATO allies. Oh. Come to think about it. There are some countries not in NATO that help you. Russia is one of them! And two small neighbouring countries next to Russia:) |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
As far as I know it's only the US that are waging an International War. The USA is entrenched in a Dogma of "War for Profit". The Military Industrial Complex reaps the profits from global instability. While US companies profit from global conflict, those profits come directly from tax payers. Countries like China realize that excessive defense spending is wasted money, and wasted opportunity. This is why tRump will never "Make America Great Again", as long as America wastes tax payers money on making weapons manufacturers rich, while creating conflicts that justify it's insane weapons spending. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
T he USA is entrenched in a Dogma of "War for Profit". Lots of truth there |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
The USA is entrenched in a Dogma of "War for Profit". It's good to know that you support killing off over of half a million people in Iraq for profit. It makes it easier for me to just ignore you in the future, despite your begging and trolling for a response. There's a reason people have stopped responding to you. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
As far as I know it's only the US that are waging an International War. Oh? Is that why China's military spending is set to double this decade (2010-2020)? http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/news/china-military-defense-defence-spending/ China's defense spending to double to $233 billion https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
[quote]The USA is entrenched in a Dogma of "War for Profit".
According to SIPRI, China's defense spending is already $215 billion in 2016, So by 2020 China's military expenditure will be about 2% of GDP. Same as the requirement to be a NATO member. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
Oh? Is that why China's military spending is set to double this decade (2010-2020)? Do you have a point to make? Thankfully, under Obama the USA defense spending has gone down. It's still 4 times the spending of China, and that's not counting veterans benefits. You do notice that China doesn't engage in actual wars don't you? |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Oh? Mali Civil War, 2012-present... China was involved in THAT one. Not to mention that China is the third largest exporter of military arms in the World... Not to mention the occasional border incidents between China and Russia... Not to mention the deployment of Chinese ICBMs along its border with Russia... Not to mention China's island-building where they are giving the finger to the rest of the world daring the rest of the world (specifically the USA) to attack them... Dude.... China ain't exactly... peaceful. They do a LOT of saber-rattling... as does both the USA and Russia. Edit... almost forgot... The Chinese occupation of Tibet. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
You forgot to mention that China is a Communist State, with a GDP equal to that of the USA, and thus SUPER EVIL, with global domination as their Ultimate Goal. Thank God Capitalism will Save US. LOL. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
You forgot to mention that China is a Communist State, Heh... back to the old anti-capitalism drivel... give it up, man... The reason for the high Chinese economic growth over the last decade or two is the capitalist reforms the Chinese Government has made in their economic system. (Cuba is also doing the same, but at a slower pace). Remember, the USA does not use a pure-capitalist economic system, but a mixed economic system. So does China nowadays... And even Cuba is going that way. And more on Chinese defense spending.. Yes, the USA (#1) does spend the most, and about 3x as much as China (#2)... But China (#2) spends more than Saudi Arabia (#3), Russia (#4), and the United Kingdom (#5)... COMBINED. (SIPRI 2015 data). https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
You do know what LOL means right? You talk a lot, but never seem to have point. And for the record, I'm not from Cuba, but wish I'd lived there. It's a nice place. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Since my point was made. BACK TO SUBJECT... IMO, most likely a one-off. We don't exactly have all that many MOABs, and they have limited circumstances in which they are very useful (and the people Trump targeted with it will likely not base themselves in a location where MOABs will be useful against them, at least not without causing rather extreme collateral damage... I think that Trump, with his cruise missile attack on Syria and his MOAB strike against caves in Afghanistan was just waving his "manhood" around in an attempt to get those groups' (or Group's) attention and to take him seriously. Yeah, imo, both were likely a 'one-off'. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Umm kong that graph is wrong Australia is spending 2.1% now . That was the case 4 years ago back in 2013 but since the Liberal Party have been in power it's now above 2%. Comparing China's spending on military and what the U.S spends is a bit of a joke mate . I would worry when china starts to spend 1/2 what you lot are then I would say they are going to far and have thoughts of taking over the world . Witch China has never wished to do in all there history of over 3000 years . Hence the great wall to keep us all out of there country . You could understand why people are thinking the U.S is the problem if your going to talk who's spending what and why .After all how much are you spending again ? and why is that again ??? Rremember China's economy is now as large or even larger than yours now days and they are not spending up like you lot are on defence and they could seeing how big the economy is there . |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Umm kong that graph is wrong Australia is spending 2.1% now . That was the case 4 years ago back in 2013 but since the Liberal Party have been in power it's now above 2%. Glenn, Uhh... China does not have to spend like we do. Remember, their Government is still somewhat centrally planned, even WITH all of their capitalist reforms. The military pretty much controls much of the industry that produces their military equipment. Here, cost overruns are a fact of life in the defense industry. There, you risk getting shot if they happen. Yes, a lot of our military spending is highly wasteful. China's isn't. Be afraid. TL;DR version. Glenn, they get a LOT more bang for their buck than we do. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Yes, a lot of our military spending is highly wasteful. China's isn't. Why is that? |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Yes, a lot of our military spending is highly wasteful. China's isn't. Same reason why throwing Government money into health care (medicare, medicaid, etc.) has turned health care in the USA into a cesspool of waste... No incentive to control costs. The Government will pay, so let us all drive up the price as high as we can... Bahhh. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
Same reason why throwing Government money into health care (medicare, medicaid, etc.) has turned health care in the USA into a cesspool of waste...Yes, a lot of our military spending is highly wasteful. China's isn't.Why is that? The real problem isn't that government pays, but rather that both the Military Industrial Complex, and the Medical Provider Network are based on a "For Profit" model. Socialism does have it's place. Defense, Healthcare. and Education should not be run on a "For Profit" basis. As you say, in China Defense spending is rational and efficient, in many countries Healthcare and Education are exceptional and free. In the USA almost everything, even your elections, can be bought, with no controls on cost or quality. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34950 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Now what is wrong with that M.K.? Over here a lot of us want to get rid of state governments as they're a level of government (and red-tape) that we as a country can't afford for much longer. But then again we also have many levels of fail safes against corruption in government where as your type of government just encourages it. Cheers. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
For some reason I think Trump is still in the locker room. "Hey, I have a bigger one than you have" |
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