US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

Message boards : Politics : US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Lynn Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Nov 00
Posts: 14162
Credit: 79,603,650
RAC: 123
United States
Message 1861246 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 17:03:18 UTC

Washington (CNN)The US military has dropped an enormous bomb in Afghanistan, according to four US military officials with direct knowledge of the mission.
A GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb, nicknamed MOAB, was dropped at 7 p.m. local time Thursday, the sources said.
The MOAB is also known as the "mother of all bombs." A MOAB is a 21,600-pound, GPS-guided munition that is America's most powerful non-nuclear bomb.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/index.html
ID: 1861246 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861268 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 20:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 1861246.  

Bombs of this size has little practical use in a war.
The reason they are still used sometimes is that they may have a strong psychological effect.
In the US they call them "Mother Of All Bombs"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9H50tHiHjs
In Russia they call them "Father Of All Bombs"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2FGA3Z-oYM

But President Donald Trump called it "another successful job" later Thursday.
Hmm... OK...
Let's wait for the damage reports.
ID: 1861268 · Report as offensive
Profile MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jun 02
Posts: 6895
Credit: 6,588,977
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1861275 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 20:17:03 UTC

SaWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

45 aka dA Mutha of All Prezidents, is KICKING FookingASS.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ShuckaLucka


Drop 'em if yA Gots 'em Yap

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
ID: 1861275 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30640
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1861290 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:05:34 UTC - in response to Message 1861268.  

Bombs of this size has little practical use in a war.

Uh, little use? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82
ID: 1861290 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861296 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:22:25 UTC - in response to Message 1861290.  
Last modified: 13 Apr 2017, 21:24:05 UTC

Bombs of this size has little practical use in a war.

Uh, little use? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82

Yes. Little use.
The U.S. Air Force dropped several BLU-82s during the campaign to destroy Taliban and al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan to attack and demoralize personnel and to destroy underground and cave complexes.[7] American forces began using the bomb in November 2001[10] and again a month later during the Battle of Tora Bora.
Successful?
Last use of it before now was in July 15, 2008 in a missile firing range in Utah.
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82#/media/File:Duke_Field_reservists_drop_last_BLU-82_bomb.jpg
ID: 1861296 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1861298 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:28:37 UTC

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said later Thursday. The strike "targeted a system of tunnels and cave that ISIS fighters use to move around freely."

Wikipedia wrote:
The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system. However, multiple strikes with lower yield ordnance may be more effective and can be delivered by fighter/bombers such as the F-16 with greater stand-off capability than the C-130 and C-17.
ID: 1861298 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861301 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:33:05 UTC - in response to Message 1861298.  

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said later Thursday. The strike "targeted a system of tunnels and cave that ISIS fighters use to move around freely."

Wikipedia wrote:
The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system. However, multiple strikes with lower yield ordnance may be more effective and can be delivered by fighter/bombers such as the F-16 with greater stand-off capability than the C-130 and C-17.

Less is More:)
ID: 1861301 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1861303 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:40:09 UTC - in response to Message 1861301.  

Less is More:)
Depends whether you want the primary effect to be on the enemy - or on your own newspaper editors :)
ID: 1861303 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861304 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 21:50:20 UTC - in response to Message 1861303.  

Less is More:)
Depends whether you want the primary effect to be on the enemy - or on your own newspaper editors :)

I wonder if White House Spokesman Sean Spicer have forgot about Iwo Jima.
The strike there was "targeted a system of tunnels and cave that Japanese soldiers use to move around freely".
ID: 1861304 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1861309 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 22:01:22 UTC - in response to Message 1861304.  

Iwo Jima
"The island ... was useless to the U.S. Army as a staging base and useless to the U.S. Navy as a fleet base." ?
ID: 1861309 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861319 - Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 23:16:43 UTC - in response to Message 1861309.  
Last modified: 13 Apr 2017, 23:20:24 UTC

Iwo Jima
"The island ... was useless to the U.S. Army as a staging base and useless to the U.S. Navy as a fleet base." ?

Still Iwo Jima is an icon of the US Pacific War in WWII.
But my point is that trying to bomb other countries at war so they surrender is futile.
Doesn't work. Never had.

Oops. Unless nuke them...
ID: 1861319 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30640
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1861327 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 0:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 1861319.  
Last modified: 14 Apr 2017, 0:52:14 UTC

But my point is that trying to bomb other countries at war so they surrender is futile.
Doesn't work. Never had.

Oops. Unless nuke them...
Even that may not work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABj%C5%8D_incident

Bombing can go a long way to making them so miserable that they lose the will to fight and the ability to wage war or even feed their people. However to do that requires bombing that is a war crime such as Dresden across an entire country.
ID: 1861327 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 30640
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1861329 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 0:54:46 UTC

Now it comes out this was an Obama operation that was waiting for them to gather so it would have good results.
ID: 1861329 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19048
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1861331 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 1:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 1861329.  

Now it comes out this was an Obama operation that was waiting for them to gather so it would have good results.

And it was not a mission that required specific Presidential authorisation.
ID: 1861331 · Report as offensive
pierre castro
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 Feb 17
Posts: 86
Credit: 107,398
RAC: 0
Cuba
Message 1861337 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 1:47:00 UTC

When they ask tRump what he'd like for Dessert he says

"Can we bomb something with a really really Big Bomb, a really Huge Big Bomb?".
ID: 1861337 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861341 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 2:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 1861331.  

Now it comes out this was an Obama operation that was waiting for them to gather so it would have good results.

And it was not a mission that required specific Presidential authorisation.

And it's still an ongoing war in Afghanistan where many countries are involved.
Swedish mission in Afghanistan is Sweden's contribution to the international military intervention teams ISAF and the Resolute Support Mission in the now (2017) ongoing war in Afghanistan.
The effort has been ongoing since 2002; initially as an intelligence unit.

15 years!
Russia tried to stop the madness already in 1980 so Afghanistan has been at war at least for 37 years!
ID: 1861341 · Report as offensive
Profile Lynn Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Nov 00
Posts: 14162
Credit: 79,603,650
RAC: 123
United States
Message 1861384 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 5:49:16 UTC - in response to Message 1861341.  

ID: 1861384 · Report as offensive
Profile Lynn Special Project $75 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Nov 00
Posts: 14162
Credit: 79,603,650
RAC: 123
United States
Message 1861389 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 6:12:58 UTC - in response to Message 1861384.  

ID: 1861389 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861391 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 6:24:30 UTC - in response to Message 1861384.  

ID: 1861391 · Report as offensive
Profile janneseti
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Oct 09
Posts: 14106
Credit: 655,366
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1861393 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 7:13:20 UTC
Last modified: 14 Apr 2017, 7:19:20 UTC

First damage report.
The bomb that the US military brought down in the Achin district in Afghanistan killed at least 36 IS-warrior, said Afghan authorities, according to AFP.
Several caves that the terrorist group uses and hidden ammunition stocks should have been destroyed in the bombing, according to a statement from the Defense Ministry.

It also says that there should not be any civilian casualties.
Hmm. I have my doubts...
ID: 1861393 · Report as offensive
1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · Next

Message boards : Politics : US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.