The generally acknowledged earliest comic book is The Adventures of Obadiah Oldbuck published in 1837 in Europe. Even Dick Tracy dates back to 1931. What you're referring to is considered the Golden Age of comic books in the '50's and '60's.

But as to the topic, heroes aren't unique to comic books. Stories have always centered around a main character whom had to overcome great odds and defeat the bad guys or die for the greater good. This concept dates back to the earliest storytelling such as the Epic of Gilgamesh and even many great Grecian mythologies. It isn't too far fetched to see that, if one were to look at the Christian Bible as having been put together (like a council of sorts, from maybe Nicea) purposefully to tell the story of a hero of the wretched and the poor, promising them that they will achieve eternal happiness if they model their lives after him. Then the big, bad, and powerful Romans become angered that this "nobody" is lifting the spirits of the broken and the damned, so they kill him off, but not after being betrayed by a friend for some coin. If the Bible weren't filled with such terrible morality and flat characters, I'd say it would make for a great story! Say, for example, the Matrix trilogy was better done than the Bible even though the stories were almost the same.

Thank you, Mr. Ozz.
I never had comic books as a child, they were too expensive for my youth.
When things became better, I guess that I was too old for comic books anymore.
The bible was however, always by my side. That was a given.
Few toys, just Jesus.
Now you may understand why I went off on this tangent.
I simply wish others to know the simple joy in understanding some things that saved me as a young lad.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

so, the golden age of comic books occurred at roughly the same time as the golden age of Looney Tunes. Interesting stuff.

And @Oz, "Stories have always centered around a main character whom had to overcome great odds and defeat the bad guys or die for the greater good", you are correct this is not limited to comic books, as this is the basis of many/most movies as well.

And @Oz great call on The Matrix, even if some of the biblical references in the movie are as obvious as some of the names. No wonder our friend Guy references it so much.

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#resist

Still missing Mel Blanc.
Once the comics went to the theatre, his was the voice that led them there.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Who knows, but maybe when Betsy Devos is done dismantling the Education System in the USA the Bible will be rewritten in comic book form for "The Masses".

Who knows, but maybe when Betsy Devos is done dismantling the Education System in the USA the Bible will be rewritten in comic book form for "The Masses".

A failing education system needs to be dismantled. That's the only way we're going to fix it. Push it back to the states where it belongs and it can *only* *get* *better*.

Right, anything "failing" needs to be dismantled. Worn tire, dismantle the car. Good to see the chemist of computer science understands how to solve problems.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

The US has been "failing" for the last few decades. First step to solving that problem: follow the rule of law.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-trump-tower/ar-AAnMiwJ

The only way for liberal/democrat/socialist/marxist/communists to get what they want is through subversion. Subversion is outside the rule of law. Subversives need to go to jail. This is what Trump meant when he said he was going to drain the swamp. Bringing king hussein before a criminal court would go a long way in solving this nation's problems. Must straighten out the courts first--lets start with the 9th circus court.

First you claim support for rule of law, then end with a comment attacking the court that did not come to the "right" conclusions. The chemist of computer science is an expert on legal matters too!

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Push it back to the states where it belongs and it can *only* *get* *better*.

They have done a great job in Kansas

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The US has been "failing" for the last few decades. First step to solving that problem: follow the rule of law.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-trump-tower/ar-AAnMiwJ

The only way for liberal/democrat/socialist/marxist/communists to get what they want is through subversion. Subversion is outside the rule of law. Subversives need to go to jail. This is what Trump meant when he said he was going to drain the swamp. Bringing king hussein before a criminal court would go a long way in solving this nation's problems. Must straighten out the courts first--lets start with the 9th circus court.

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wow. Once again we come to our very apparently different understandings of 'truth'. The two-terms guy with good approval ratings is a criminal, and the Russian conspirators with unethical and conflicting business interests aren't...

and man is it annoying continuously seeing 'democrat' lumped in with 'communist'... You think the current democratic party in the US resembles communists? (Seriously though don't answer that, I already know what you believe and how false it is)

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#resist

The US has been "failing" for the last few decades. First step to solving that problem: follow the rule of law.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-accuses-obama-of-wiretapping-trump-tower/ar-AAnMiwJ

The only way for liberal/democrat/socialist/marxist/communists to get what they want is through subversion. Subversion is outside the rule of law. Subversives need to go to jail. This is what Trump meant when he said he was going to drain the swamp. Bringing king hussein before a criminal court would go a long way in solving this nation's problems. Must straighten out the courts first--lets start with the 9th circus court.

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wow. Once again we come to our very apparently different understandings of 'truth'. The two-terms guy with good approval ratings is a criminal, and the Russian conspirators with unethical and conflicting business interests aren't...

Trump has to come up with his own alternate reality news to stay ahead and keep people like Guy encouraged that he'll fix things. ;-)

Cheers.

Why so, except the fact that you are supposed to be a hero.

Mark, one thing perhaps meant for you, the rest of it for the others here.

Should perhaps have been clearer, so therefore my apologies.

My guess is that you should already know about the intended meaning here.

Have faith, those who have suffered so far, help is coming for all us.
And it may not be in the form you may have wished it to.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Have faith, those who have suffered so far, help is coming for all us.
And it may not be in the form you may have wished it to.

Just as Judas delivered to us all redemption through Christ - Donald is the way to eternal light

Introducing the Trump Night-Light.


Find your way safely to your toilet of choice,
where you can save the World while twitting up a storm

He's still getting most of what he wants.

Care to expand, this is about the same as my view,
Why is the Trump presidency such a rolling disaster?

The 3 big things so far;

The travel ban: Federal judges in Hawaii and Maryland halted the second version of the administration’s travel ban, ruling that its discriminatory intent likely makes it unconstitutional and putting it on indefinite hold.
The Affordable Care Act repeal: After a brutal Congressional Budget Office assessment showed that the Republican bill would cause 24 million Americans to lose their health coverage, House Speaker Paul Ryan now admits that the bill can’t pass the House in its current form.
The budget: “President Trump on Thursday will unveil a budget plan that calls for a sharp increase in military spending and stark cuts across much of the rest of the government including the elimination of dozens of long-standing federal programs that assist the poor, fund scientific research and aid America’s allies abroad.”

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If Trump gets his way on Trump Care and the Budget, then I think that the next mid terms will be a landslide for the Democrats in both the house and senate. A lot of Republicans who initially supported these ideas have had to rethink after contact with their constituents.

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If Trump gets his way on Trump Care and the Budget, then I think that the next mid terms will be a landslide for the Democrats in both the house and senate. A lot of Republicans who initially supported these ideas have had to rethink after contact with their constituents.

Perhaps. Or those who enabled Trumps victory. The once successfully employed factory, mining, labor, etc. Once full time. Now only able to get part times jobs. Will have, or will see a more successful future. And come to to polls in greater numbers.

Or just the opposite regarding the Anti-Trump.

No one knows. And are just engaging in wishful thinking.

Were the 'ell is Trump going to get jobs from for those people.
All the new jobs he has supposedly got actually got off the ground many years ago in Obama's time. That if nothing else shows how long it takes to plan, build, and commission new industrial plants before training can start. That assumes training is required, because to be cost effective they will have to be highly automated and jobs will probably require a degree or more, except for the cleaners and groundsmen etc.
And the promise to re-open Appalachian coal mines, who needs the coal? Power plants have converted to gas coming out of all those fracking sites, they're not going back to coal. Can it be done economically and exported? No. (N.B. I have done work for P&H and their longwall company Joy mining)

The jobs he has saved have a familiar ring as well, companies that have kept some jobs in the US have outsourced other jobs in lieu. Or they were not in threat, like Ford, they just moved production of "simple" vehicles to Mexico, mainly for sale in Central and South America, and retrained the US workforce for more "complex" vehicles.

Other jobs he thinks are coming, like Foxconn's 30,000. If they are so trustworthy where are the promised jobs for Harrisburg, Pennsylvania made in 2013.

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Mark , honestly posts like these just " drag you deeper in the hole you keep digging for yourself " , look at the positives in your life and i'm sure they outweigh the negatives .
i've told you my " situation " Chris S has got the x - rays etc , you can either just keep feeling " sorry for yourself" , in my " experiance" that does you no good and just adds to the problems , or you can say f - it and look at the positives and make the best of what you have got .
Personaly i did the 2nd option and ain't looked back , definatly ain't easy at all but i'm happier in meself and sure the same would apply to you if you gave it a chance to .

Know i've " stuck the boot in " ( only one , right leg ain't regrown so definatly NOT one of David Icke's " reptilians :-( ) a couple of times these last few weeks and ain't taking back or apologising for my posts but " give it a shot" you ain't got nothing to loose but everything to gain and bet there's a lot of people who read these forums but don't comment will be behind you 100% if you just give it a try , dunno if i'm right there but would like to think i am correct .

I'd like the " old kittyman " back here who has a laff and helps people out , you did me and still ain't forgotten the help you gave and won't forget either !!

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Life is what you make of it :-)

When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-)

Mark...........
Of course I am aware of your situation.
But may I remind you that there is no loss of limb compared to losing one's soul.
I remind you of the movie cut.
You NEED me on that wall.
So, there I stand, accused.
And, I am sick and tired of doing anything else than defend myself against the increasingly left socialist bastards that wish to ruin and control this country and give it to the next highest biddder.
I gave up far too much of myself to allow that to happen, and so I revolt and argue, because I am far too old to be called up to defend her.
As the question goes..............have I said enough?
I do not think I have.
I suggest that the argument I have with the establishment and many of you is very much established by the very old clip that I post and quote from often.
Will, do you consider yourself popular because you do not bother anyone?
Jenny took the greatest hit that any free man or woman could have. But she deserved it. She opened the can of worms, and she deserved the answer. And so literate it was. I know it was scripted.
You know why liberals so often always lose?
This cut tells you exactly why.

I have stood behind the principles that JFK put forth in his short term as the greatest president ever to hold the office. I know he was not perfect, but damn near close to it./
I have never forgiven those who chose to take him from us in Dallas that day.
You and I both know that it was not a one man job./
There are things still in power that relied upon that single bullet penetrating his skull.
Lyndon Johnson was implicit. May his legacy be smudged to acknowledge this? I doubt it.
Nobody is left alive to acknowledge the facts. Does that mean they got away with it?
Not in my mind, they didn't.
Not ever in my mind.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Good report in the WP on prospects for coal industry. Quick summary - Not much hope of getting the coal mining jobs back andcertainly not underground ones.
Coal in the Trump age: Industry has a pulse, but prospects for jobs are weak

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