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Message 1844763 - Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 15:24:58 UTC

It occurs to me that you have run shallow of inspiration.
Not just of your own, but of your generation's./
That is a sad thing to say, but I fear it is true.

Witness this Paul Harvey bit on the working of how and why the foundations of our nation was founded.
A woundrous story.
Men who had something profound to say.
And one by one fell.
Paul Harvey about Policemen.

And wished to give our nation a better way.

Amen and meow.

Many kitties also gave their lives in the creation of this nation.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1844771 - Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 16:10:31 UTC
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I also feel 'The Greatest Generation' and their kids need to remember where THEY came from.

FDR, JFK, Vietnam, WWII before it. The Great Depression, the Cold War, etc.

Recent lessons in history that seem to have been disregarded and forgotten.

I am familiar with many of the real faces, actions, and decisions of greatness in our country's history. Hopefully someday we can be great again.
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Message 1844774 - Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 16:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 1844771.  

I also feel 'The Greatest Generation' and their kids that needs to remember where THEY came from.

FDR, JFK, Vietnam, WWII before it. The Great Depression, the Cold War, etc.

Recent lessons in history that seem to have been disregarded and forgotten.

I am familiar with many of the real faces, actions, and decisions of greatness in our country's history. Hopefully someday we can be great again.


You seem to remember most of my angst, and most of all, remember why..........................
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1844837 - Posted: 27 Jan 2017, 23:54:09 UTC - in response to Message 1844771.  

I also feel 'The Greatest Generation' and their kids need to remember where THEY came from.

FDR, JFK, Vietnam, WWII before it. The Great Depression, the Cold War, etc.

Recent lessons in history that seem to have been disregarded and forgotten.


The 'Greatest Generation'... Do you know who that refers to?



"In the spring of 1984, I went to the northwest of France, to Normandy, to prepare an NBC documentary on the fortieth anniversary of D-Day, the massive and daring Allied invasion of Europe that marked the beginning of the end of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich. There, I underwent a life-changing experience. As I walked the beaches with the American veterans who had returned for this anniversary, men in their sixties and seventies, and listened to their stories, I was deeply moved and profoundly grateful for all they had done. Ten years later, I returned to Normandy for the fiftieth anniversary of the invasion, and by then I had come to understand what this generation of Americans meant to history. It is, I believe, the greatest generation any society has ever produced."

In this superb book, Tom Brokaw goes out into America, to tell through the stories of individual men and women the story of a generation, America's citizen heroes and heroines who came of age during the Great Depression and the Second World War and went on to build modern America. This generation was united not only by a common purpose, but also by common values—duty, honor, economy, courage, service, love of family and country, and, above all, responsibility for oneself. In this book, you will meet people whose everyday lives reveal how a generation persevered through war, and were trained by it, and then went on to create interesting and useful lives and the America we have today.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC1IE0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

This is my parents generation. Me? I am just a rapidly aging baby-boomer. But, I know very well where I came from. My Grandparents (only the youngest of them was born in the 20th century) told me about the horrors of WWI and the Great Depression. My Parents told me about the Great Depression and WWII. One Grandfather was wounded (gassed) in WWI. My Father was in WWII (European theater). I know where we came from.

FDR, JFK, Vietnam, WWII before it. The Great Depression, the Cold War, etc.


Oh, by the way, you left out Korea. Now those that I struck out may be a bit before my time... but the others are well within my lifetime and memory.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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Message 1844859 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 2:47:16 UTC

On Holocaust Remembrance Day, it does us all good to remember where the US came from to get where it is today, for instance:

https://twitter.com/Stl_Manifest

is a stain on our record.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1844881 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 4:21:16 UTC - in response to Message 1844854.  
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@Guy:
We lost Vietnam because of the media?? The liberals wiped out history before Woodstock??

I think I know who's been partaking in the most purple haze...



@MK yes I know whom I was referring to. (And to be very clear I wasn't around to remember any of it except the end of the Cold War. But I have spent much time re-learning our history after that censored/abridged history they teach in school, and I paid great attention to everything my grandparents and parents knew about many of those events due to their hands-on experiences.)
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Message 1844884 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 4:26:28 UTC - in response to Message 1844854.  

Liberals have almost wiped out what happened before Woodstock, NY and was the reason we lost Viet Nam because of their firm grip on the news media, educational institutes

Ah yes, Robert McNamara's body counts. Firmly reminds me of Rump's body counts at the inauguration.

I see far too many parallels between this administration and then. Far too many things the administration talks about are striped down to a single metric, one which does not tell the story. But Rump's a business man. Business is a single metric world. It is what he knows. And we know what he does when he bets on the wrong metric and it goes to hell in a hand basket. The USA can't declare bankruptcy; this is going to end very bad for the USA, 1929 will look like a cake walk.
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Message 1844887 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 4:34:37 UTC - in response to Message 1844884.  

At least you see what I see, Gary. So I know it's not just me...
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Message 1844901 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 5:24:22 UTC - in response to Message 1844887.  

At least you see what I see, Gary. So I know it's not just me...

No not just me, nearly every billionaire has his Apocalypse exit to New Zealand already in place.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/26/tech-billionaires-reportedly-stock-up-on-apocalypse-insurance.html

They know what Rump's going to do to the USA!
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Message 1844904 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 6:08:54 UTC - in response to Message 1844901.  
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NPR just had a segment the other day about Silicon Valley billionaires and their self-sustaining, doomsday 'apartments'. Let's see here, ah here's the article.
"Why Some Silicon Valley Tech Executives Are Bunkering Down For Doomsday"
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Message 1844922 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 8:10:02 UTC

There are some here that reverend the great singer/songwriters of our time also, but it seems that their real message never got through to their skulls to their brains unless it was twisted in some way. :-(

No wonder they like their new "Alternate Facts" so much.

Well it looks like the Trans-Pacific Partnership has another player very eager to take the U.S.A.'s place, do let us know how inflation over goes there if that ever takes place, as it seems that most of the remaining players are very eager for TPP MkII (-1/+1) to happen.

I can't see how that would benefit you at all over there in anyway as you'll wind with a lot of trade just bypassing you altogether.

Now there's a formula for inflation over there that will likely rival the Great Depression, but it'll be localised instead.

The Don will see to it that you all pay to deliver his promises with plenty of interest added while he dodges taxes and bills while he fills his pockets (along with his closest friends of cause). ;-)

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Message 1844961 - Posted: 28 Jan 2017, 14:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 1844881.  

@Guy:
We lost Vietnam because of the media?? The liberals wiped out history before Woodstock??

I think I know who's been partaking in the most purple haze...



@MK yes I know whom I was referring to. (And to be very clear I wasn't around to remember any of it except the end of the Cold War. But I have spent much time re-learning our history after that censored/abridged history they teach in school, and I paid great attention to everything my grandparents and parents knew about many of those events due to their hands-on experiences.)


We DID lose Vietnam in part because of the media. Between reports from the combat zone and the media's gleeful coverage of all the anti-war protests magnifying their popularity/effects... (I saw a LOT of 'Hey! Hey! LBJ!, how many kids did you kill today?' protests outside the White House on the news).

I agree that, over the last 30 years, history education in public schools (K-12) is HIGHLY revisionist. What I learned about history in K-12 matched what I learned from my parents (both born BEFORE the Great Depression) and my grandparents (all but one born in the late 1800s). My great-grandparents had all passed away before I was born, but they were born back during the Civil war era, and I heard a lot of that era from their children (my grandparents).

Brokaw's description:
but also by common values—duty, honor, economy, courage, service, love of family and country, and, above all, responsibility for oneself.


Is spot on... especially 'responsibility for oneself'.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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