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Message 1846193 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 15:41:07 UTC - in response to Message 1846168.  
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So once again what is your solution?

The eternal question regarding all problems.

Regarding Dangerous Trump. I do acknowledge my inability to have 'A Solution'. I just understand that The Left's attacks will only result in a darker future. As The Left's 'solutions' always do.

Therefore... We must first stop the More Dangerous Left.

After stopping the More Dangerous Left. Let's have an Intelligent Discussion regarding stopping and/or slowing down Dangerous Trump. With a foundation of Morality, Ethics, and a Non Manichaean belief system.

I don't see any reason that stopping Trump can't be a bipartisan, intelligent, ethical discussion.

A true conservative should have the same problems with Trump's totalitarianism that I have, for example.
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Message 1846195 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 15:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 1846183.  
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I have a solution. Convention of states.

Current status:

Total Passed States: 8
Total House Wins: 18
Total Senate Wins: 11
Total States with Committee Wins: 24
Total States that have filed the COS Resolution: 44

Are you (all) scared of the power of the executive branch? Judicial branch? Congress?

Support a convention of states.


At this point, I wish the executive branch had *less* power, so maybe you have a point this time..
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Message 1846196 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 15:44:12 UTC - in response to Message 1846193.  

So once again what is your solution?

The eternal question regarding all problems.

Regarding Dangerous Trump. I do acknowledge my inability to have 'A Solution'. I just understand that The Left's attacks will only result in a darker future. As The Left's 'solutions' always do.

Therefore... We must first stop the More Dangerous Left.

After stopping the More Dangerous Left. Let's have an Intelligent Discussion regarding stopping and/or slowing down Dangerous Trump. With a foundation of Morality, Ethics, and a Non Manichaean belief system.

I don't see any reason that stopping Trump can't be a bipartisan, intelligent, ethical discussion.

A true conservative should have the same problems with Trump's totalitarianism that I have, for example.

Except that snowflakes are anything but bipartisan, intelligent, and ethical.
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Message 1846198 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 15:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 1846196.  
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So once again what is your solution?

The eternal question regarding all problems.

Regarding Dangerous Trump. I do acknowledge my inability to have 'A Solution'. I just understand that The Left's attacks will only result in a darker future. As The Left's 'solutions' always do.

Therefore... We must first stop the More Dangerous Left.

After stopping the More Dangerous Left. Let's have an Intelligent Discussion regarding stopping and/or slowing down Dangerous Trump. With a foundation of Morality, Ethics, and a Non Manichaean belief system.

I don't see any reason that stopping Trump can't be a bipartisan, intelligent, ethical discussion.

A true conservative should have the same problems with Trump's totalitarianism that I have, for example.

Except that snowflakes are anything but bipartisan, intelligent, and ethical.

yep, 'snowflakes' are the problem. . .
*facepalm*
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Message 1846199 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 15:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 1846198.  

So once again what is your solution?

The eternal question regarding all problems.

Regarding Dangerous Trump. I do acknowledge my inability to have 'A Solution'. I just understand that The Left's attacks will only result in a darker future. As The Left's 'solutions' always do.

Therefore... We must first stop the More Dangerous Left.

After stopping the More Dangerous Left. Let's have an Intelligent Discussion regarding stopping and/or slowing down Dangerous Trump. With a foundation of Morality, Ethics, and a Non Manichaean belief system.

I don't see any reason that stopping Trump can't be a bipartisan, intelligent, ethical discussion.

A true conservative should have the same problems with Trump's totalitarianism that I have, for example.

Except that snowflakes are anything but bipartisan, intelligent, and ethical.

yep, 'snowflakes' are the problem. . .
*sigh*

More than you shall admit before you melt, buddy.
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Message 1846208 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 16:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 1846198.  

So once again what is your solution?

The eternal question regarding all problems.

Regarding Dangerous Trump. I do acknowledge my inability to have 'A Solution'. I just understand that The Left's attacks will only result in a darker future. As The Left's 'solutions' always do.

Therefore... We must first stop the More Dangerous Left.

After stopping the More Dangerous Left. Let's have an Intelligent Discussion regarding stopping and/or slowing down Dangerous Trump. With a foundation of Morality, Ethics, and a Non Manichaean belief system.

I don't see any reason that stopping Trump can't be a bipartisan, intelligent, ethical discussion.

A true conservative should have the same problems with Trump's totalitarianism that I have, for example.

Except that snowflakes are anything but bipartisan, intelligent, and ethical.

yep, 'snowflakes' are the problem. . .
*facepalm*

Snowflake by definition:
1 An overly sensitive person that doesn't take criticism well.
2 Donald J Trump.
3 Others.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snowflake
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Message 1846210 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 16:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 1846208.  


Snowflake by definition:
1 An overly sensitive person that doesn't take criticism well.
2 Donald J Trump.
3 Others.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snowflake

Trump is not a snowflake, my friend.
He is the duly elected president of these here United States of America, and I would appreciate it if you would start to recognize that. And give him the respect that the title is due.

What agonizes me so, is that Obama, as pitiful a president as he was, did not have to endure half the criticism in four years as Trump has in one week.

I know what it is about.
Trump, if I am not wrong, is the first president not directly descended from political royalty.
And so, the establishment does not know how to deal with that. And so they descend into the depths.
Am I correct? If not, enlighten me.

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Message 1846212 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 16:43:23 UTC

Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.
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Message 1846220 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 17:05:14 UTC - in response to Message 1846212.  
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Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.

Are you suggesting that Trump is an extremist?
No, he is a populist promising things he cannot deliver.
He is not like Richard Spencer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer
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Message 1846223 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 17:12:29 UTC - in response to Message 1846220.  

Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.

Are you suggesting that Trump is an extremist?
No, he is a populist promising things he cannot deliver.
He is not like Richard Spencer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

Uhh, you from Sweden..............
I suggest you stand down.
Trump is going to deliver. And that is what all this tooth gnashing is about.
Because he promised to dismantle most of what the government has been about for many many years.
'Draining the swamp.'
Ever pick up a large rock and watch the little bugs suddenly hurry and scurry to get out of the light?
That is what this is all about. Trump has picked up the big rock and looked underneath.
And they are all hurrying and scurrying and hissing and trying to find cover.
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Message 1846228 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 17:28:47 UTC - in response to Message 1846223.  

Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.

Are you suggesting that Trump is an extremist?
No, he is a populist promising things he cannot deliver.
He is not like Richard Spencer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

Uhh, you from Sweden..............
I suggest you stand down.
Trump is going to deliver. And that is what all this tooth gnashing is about.
Because he promised to dismantle most of what the government has been about for many many years.
'Draining the swamp.'
Ever pick up a large rock and watch the little bugs suddenly hurry and scurry to get out of the light?
That is what this is all about. Trump has picked up the big rock and looked underneath.
And they are all hurrying and scurrying and hissing and trying to find cover.

How many presidents have promised to drain the swamp...... and failed.
About the most they have ever done, and I see nothing to change my mind this time, is re-arrange things and feed different alligators.
He might try and close things, like the green agenda and reduce some regulations, but he wants to increase manufacturing and the carbon fuels usage. So while some parts will decrease others will grow. Net result at best will be a status quo.
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Message 1846243 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 18:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 1846228.  

Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.

Are you suggesting that Trump is an extremist?
No, he is a populist promising things he cannot deliver.
He is not like Richard Spencer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

Uhh, you from Sweden..............
I suggest you stand down.
Trump is going to deliver. And that is what all this tooth gnashing is about.
Because he promised to dismantle most of what the government has been about for many many years.
'Draining the swamp.'
Ever pick up a large rock and watch the little bugs suddenly hurry and scurry to get out of the light?
That is what this is all about. Trump has picked up the big rock and looked underneath.
And they are all hurrying and scurrying and hissing and trying to find cover.

How many presidents have promised to drain the swamp...... and failed.
About the most they have ever done, and I see nothing to change my mind this time, is re-arrange things and feed different alligators.
He might try and close things, like the green agenda and reduce some regulations, but he wants to increase manufacturing and the carbon fuels usage. So while some parts will decrease others will grow. Net result at best will be a status quo.


^^^

And if Trump delivers a better economy, we will admit it.
But we will point out the multiple errors he is bound to make.
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Message 1846246 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 18:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 1846243.  
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I too will be the first to admit *any* positive change brought about, and I've said this. I challenge them to prove my overall guesses wrong.

I can't wait to keep winning so much that I beg to stop winning.

And I too will be there to point out *any* bad things he does. (or every bad thing, if need be)
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Message 1846250 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 18:42:46 UTC - in response to Message 1846228.  

Maybe because Obama was a centrist rather than an extremist.

Are you suggesting that Trump is an extremist?
No, he is a populist promising things he cannot deliver.
He is not like Richard Spencer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

Uhh, you from Sweden..............
I suggest you stand down.
Trump is going to deliver. And that is what all this tooth gnashing is about.
Because he promised to dismantle most of what the government has been about for many many years.
'Draining the swamp.'
Ever pick up a large rock and watch the little bugs suddenly hurry and scurry to get out of the light?
That is what this is all about. Trump has picked up the big rock and looked underneath.
And they are all hurrying and scurrying and hissing and trying to find cover.

How many presidents have promised to drain the swamp...... and failed.
About the most they have ever done, and I see nothing to change my mind this time, is re-arrange things and feed different alligators.
He might try and close things, like the green agenda and reduce some regulations, but he wants to increase manufacturing and the carbon fuels usage. So while some parts will decrease others will grow. Net result at best will be a status quo.

No, the snowflakes are on their last legs this time.
Trump is going to do away with them finally.
His and my vision of kitty life my diverge at times, but not as much as if the C word had gotten elected. That would have been a nightmare.
Now, we have Trump. A man who so far, had done what I elected him to do. A man of his words.................or at least most of them. Which is more than I can say for any elected president in the last few terms.
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Message 1846266 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 19:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 1846250.  

No, the snowflakes are on their last legs this time.
Trump is going to do away with them finally.

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Message 1846300 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 21:36:30 UTC - in response to Message 1846265.  

And if Trump delivers a better economy, we will admit it.
But we will point out the multiple errors he is bound to make.

Sarge...

Despite our disagreements. We need more like you.


It remains to be seen if he will do any good things.
If he does, it remains to be seen if I will admit, true to my word.
But I most definitely try.
And I think, while there are some who would never give him any credit, something like at least 75% of his dissenters would admit when he gets something right ... errr, correct.
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Message 1846336 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 23:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 1846210.  

He is the duly elected president of these here United States of America, and I would appreciate it if you would start to recognize that. And give him the respect that the title is due.


The beautiful thing about free speech here in America is that we can openly criticize our leaders without fear of repercussion, and your statement here would demand people stop using this inalienable right? You can ---- right off with that!

What agonizes me so, is that Obama, as pitiful a president as he was, did not have to endure half the criticism in four years as Trump has in one week.


ah, ah, ah---- ahbullshit*cough*! Excuse me. I think I'm allergic to moronic and asinine statements.

Trump, if I am not wrong, is the first president not directly descended from political royalty.


Nah, he only rubbed elbows and grabbed vaginas with political royalty. And maybe bought the occasional political yes-man.

And so, the establishment does not know how to deal with that. And so they descend into the depths.
Am I correct? If not, enlighten me.


Tell me: do unicorns exist in your world?
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Message 1846338 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 23:12:13 UTC - in response to Message 1846168.  

So once again what is your solution?

The eternal question regarding all problems.

Regarding Dangerous Trump. I do acknowledge my inability to have 'A Solution'. I just understand that The Left's attacks will only result in a darker future. As The Left's 'solutions' always do.

Therefore... We must first stop the More Dangerous Left.

After stopping the More Dangerous Left. Let's have an Intelligent Discussion regarding stopping and/or slowing down Dangerous Trump. With a foundation of Morality, Ethics, and a Non Manichaean belief system.

What levers of power do the "More Dangerous Left" have their hands on? As far as I can tell it's 0, while "45" and his team have their hands on lots. Given this state of affairs, why must the "More Dangerous Left" be stopped first?

Also, you appear to be operating under the assumption that the "More Dangerous Left" are unable to learn from their prior mistakes (and thus be less dangerous), which may be true, though not exactly guaranteed to be so.

As for anti-"45" attacks, it seems that these are not confined to those that would define themselves as "Left" (e.g. there was at least one billionaire at the SFO protest last Sunday).
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1846348 - Posted: 3 Feb 2017, 23:35:07 UTC
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[For good or bad, the Republicans will probably gain more Senate Seats in two years.


There is a hostile take-over of the Dems in the works and building, right now.

Sarge...

Just a Democrat suicide.

Probably, as is normal throughout our History: After the self-destruction of a major political Party. The remaining major Party will control, for possibly a generation. Awaiting the necessary political realignment.

Our 'Winner Takes All' (50.1%) political/constitution, demands two major political parties. Not a coalition of many different political parties.

Sarge...

Don't believe I wish the Republicans to have this control. If the above happens. It is the Democrat Party that is at fault.


You mistook "hostile takeover" as meaning "take away their voters tp a third party", it seems.
The leaders of the takeover know about the winner-takesw-all and all related institutional biases against third parties.
They are/will taking/take over the party from within,
One of the most rational people I've never met. A.R. of Texas, has aligned himself with this group and is now running for an office.
I'm willing to bet Ozz, SciManStev and at least a few others know of A.R.
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