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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I guess TV debates was somewhat different some decades ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEk7ajI9sY TRUMP VS. CLINTON (ft. Blondie) - Songify 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95AR87ciruc |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Debate commission: Trump had audio 'issues' Well, not totally accurate. Ford represented several things which enabled Carter's win. 1. Wage and Price controls from his W.I.N. program (Whip Inflation Now). 2. The man who pardoned Nixon. 3. Physical (and to a lesser extent, mental) Klutz. (Remember the SNL skits, anyone?) https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
As they appear to do with Trump. Nay, they are now seeing him for what his is, a misogynistic racist tax cheat scofflaw. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
As they appear to do with Trump. True, but it does make one wonder: - How did America allow this to happen? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
As they appear to do with Trump. Maybe, but with the: - "proletariat noun noun: proletariat; plural noun: proletariats; noun: proletariate; plural noun: proletariates working-class people regarded collectively (often used with reference to Marxism). "the growth of the industrial proletariat" synonyms: the workers, working-class people, wage-earners, the labouring classes, the common people, the ordinary people, the lower classes, the masses, the commonalty, the rank and file, the third estate, the plebeians; derogatory the hoi polloi, the plebs, the proles, the great unwashed, the mob, the rabble, the canaille the lowest class of citizens in ancient Rome." being treated as totally "dumb", preparations must be made for the backlash when it comes & come it will. As you so rightly state often enough - history often repeats. The next repeat will be more deadly that all the mistakes of the past. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
As they appear to do with Trump. American Madrasas After the indoctrination the mind no longer is able to believe truth, such as science, and becomes a sheeple, totally controlled by the task masters, because of its firm belief in self superiority, it perpetuates itself in total bondage serving the task masters. Oh, you want the simple wrong answer -- Dixie Tea. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-) No abusive comments involving race, nationality, gender, class or sexuality. <-- that flavor |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-) One will never get away from that particular issue for the simple fact that many do not comprehend the written or spoken word. Those with a "superior" attitude often use words that they "think" dumbfound the "Proletariat". |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-) Tis DIXIE. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-) Gary, It is not really fair to lump all of 'Dixie' together. Regarding the issue of Slavery: In 'Dixie', most 'white' households did NOT own slaves. Only the more wealthy ones did. In the 1860 census, the figures reported were: 1. Lower South (SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, TX, FL - seceded prior to Ft. Sumter): 36.7% of white families owned slaves. 2. Mid-South (VA, NC, TN, AR - seceded after Ft. Sumter): 25.3%. 3. Lower South + Mid-South (The Confederacy): 30.8%. 4. Texas (Part of Lower South): 28%. 5. Border States (DE, MD, KY, MO - Slave States that did NOT secede): 15.9%. 6. Total of ALL Slave States: 26%. Also, some of the most ardent abolitionists were Southern, specifically, Southern Preachers). Also, the primary slave-owners in the South were the wealthy Plantation owners, the bulk of which were either transplanted British nobility & aristocracy, or those seeking to emulate them. There was a considerable cultural difference between the antebellum Southern Aristocrats, and the 'poor folks' who spent the great majority of their efforts in subsistence-level agriculture. Also, do not forget that (for the period of 1630 to 1776), about half of the white immigrants to the British North American colonies came under indentured servitude (about 200,000 voluntary, and about 50,000 the result of criminal convictions). This condition, especially considering that (just as with Slaves) runaways would be hunted down and returned. And that those masters given to flogging frequently did not care whether the person getting flogged was white or black. And that even though (unlike with Slavery) Indentures had an end-point in time only about 40% of the Indentured Servants lived to complete their term of servitude... The institution of Servitude left a very SOUR taste in the mouths of a great many people, including many of the former indentured servants and their descendants in the South. Please don't lump all the (white) inhabitants of the South together as a bunch of rabid racist sheetheads. They aren't. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Please don't lump all the (white) inhabitants of the South together as a bunch of rabid racist sheetheads. They aren't. Morris Dees certainly isn't and he lives in the South. I believe MK you are the first one to use the word "all." Does it fit you? BTW non-owner does not mean they did not rent slaves or that given money they would not have been owners, or fully support ownership. DIXIE refers to the attitude of the Antebellum South that ownership of people is permissible; it refers to Jim Crow laws; it refers to the moral superiority of one over another. You want to consign it to the dustbin of history, but it does seem to live on in the moneyed privileged whites who cling to tradition as strongly as ISIL clings to 6th century traditions. They even map it. All, no, but many can become trapped by tradition and do it out of habit, just like a smoker takes a drag of his filthy cancer stick, which they make in the south. Interesting percentages. 74.7% non-owners but they still voted to exit. Makes me think the 3/4 of the states is a too low number to amend. Perhaps it needs to be 5/6. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Please don't lump all the (white) inhabitants of the South together as a bunch of rabid racist sheetheads. They aren't. Dixie is the name of a geographical region. the states of the SE United States & especially those which constituted the Confederacy As to the 74.7%... Perhaps this indicates that there were OTHER issues at work in addition to slavery that caused the vote to be for secession. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Dixie https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Guilt by miss-association get lots of traction these days in some circles. Har! ... |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34869 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Guilt by miss-association get lots of traction these days in some circles. Har! Yep and Donald is playing his cards on it (even if he doesn't pay his taxes). But I must say that you guys are very entertaining in your views and I'm getting a very good laugh in here at times. I'm just surprised that there a U.S.A. left today as yous all fly apart in different directions these days. Cheers. |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Guilt by miss-association get lots of traction these days in some circles. Har! Not half as entertaining as you blathering mate. Har! Come on post again... LOL ... |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
It's a shame, the whole idea of the place seemed like a winner! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34869 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It's a shame, the whole idea of I couldn't agree more Ian. ;-) Cheers. |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
Its' been many months since I posted in this board, but I couldn't pass this up. One of the biggest questions should be not how Donald J. Trump(Drumpf) would be able to skip taxes for up to 18 years. The biggest question should be - How in the He%^ll did Trump lose almost $1B USD (916M and change) in 1995, when the country was doing a bumper business (budget surplus). And, how do you have 3 casinos, which are simply money making machines by definition, go bankrupt, and he makes a profit over those same bankruptcies. Is this the business acumen that will decide how great of a business man he is? Do his uneducated supporters, his own words, truly believe that this creature of the so called Republican Party, I say so called because the Republican Party hasn't been the Republican Party since 19665, can bring this country together and make it whole? I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
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