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Message 1821246 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 5:44:33 UTC

I guess TV debates was somewhat different some decades ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEk7ajI9sY

TRUMP VS. CLINTON (ft. Blondie) - Songify 2016
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Message 1821292 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 13:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 1821283.  

Debate commission: Trump had audio 'issues'

Just going to Energize Trump Voter's to come out, and vote.


I'm watching the 1976 Ford/Carter debate, and suddenly Carter is having audio difficulties, too. Well, we all know how that election turned out. ;~)

This is not 1976. Ford represented nothing to the Voter's.

This is a different 'Ball Game'.

I guess TV debates was somewhat different some decades ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEk7ajI9sY

Gosh...

Even Nixon appears to be more Presidential than...


Well, not totally accurate.

Ford represented several things which enabled Carter's win.

1. Wage and Price controls from his W.I.N. program (Whip Inflation Now).
2. The man who pardoned Nixon.
3. Physical (and to a lesser extent, mental) Klutz. (Remember the SNL skits, anyone?)
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1821297 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 14:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 1821293.  

As they appear to do with Trump.

Nay, they are now seeing him for what his is, a misogynistic racist tax cheat scofflaw.
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Message 1821298 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 14:26:01 UTC - in response to Message 1821297.  

As they appear to do with Trump.

Nay, they are now seeing him for what his is, a misogynistic racist tax cheat scofflaw.

True, but it does make one wonder: - How did America allow this to happen?
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Message 1821301 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 14:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 1821300.  

As they appear to do with Trump.

Nay, they are now seeing him for what his is, a misogynistic racist tax cheat scofflaw.

True, but it does make one wonder: - How did America allow this to happen?

The Western Proletariat didn't understand their descent into 19th Century Capitalism.

AKA: Globalism

Not their fault.

Maybe, but with the: -

"proletariat

noun

noun: proletariat; plural noun: proletariats; noun: proletariate; plural noun: proletariates

working-class people regarded collectively (often used with reference to Marxism).
"the growth of the industrial proletariat"

synonyms: the workers, working-class people, wage-earners, the labouring classes, the common people, the ordinary people, the lower classes, the masses, the commonalty, the rank and file, the third estate, the plebeians; derogatory the hoi polloi, the plebs, the proles, the great unwashed, the mob, the rabble, the canaille

the lowest class of citizens in ancient Rome."

being treated as totally "dumb", preparations must be made for the backlash when it comes & come it will.

As you so rightly state often enough - history often repeats.

The next repeat will be more deadly that all the mistakes of the past.
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Message 1821307 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 15:19:40 UTC - in response to Message 1821298.  

As they appear to do with Trump.

Nay, they are now seeing him for what his is, a misogynistic racist tax cheat scofflaw.

True, but it does make one wonder: - How did America allow this to happen?

American Madrasas
After the indoctrination the mind no longer is able to believe truth, such as science, and becomes a sheeple, totally controlled by the task masters, because of its firm belief in self superiority, it perpetuates itself in total bondage serving the task masters.

Oh, you want the simple wrong answer -- Dixie Tea.
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Message 1821309 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 15:25:33 UTC - in response to Message 1821307.  

What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-)
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Message 1821310 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 15:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 1821309.  

What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-)

No abusive comments involving race, nationality, gender, class or sexuality. <-- that flavor
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Message 1821311 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 15:31:59 UTC - in response to Message 1821310.  

What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-)

No abusive comments involving race, nationality, gender, class or sexuality. <-- that flavor

One will never get away from that particular issue for the simple fact that many do not comprehend the written or spoken word.

Those with a "superior" attitude often use words that they "think" dumbfound the "Proletariat".
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Message 1821312 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 15:36:01 UTC - in response to Message 1821311.  

What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-)

No abusive comments involving race, nationality, gender, class or sexuality. <-- that flavor

One will never get away from that particular issue for the simple fact that many do not comprehend the written or spoken word.

Those with a "superior" attitude often use words that they "think" dumbfound the "Proletariat".

Tis DIXIE.
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Message 1821375 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 22:09:01 UTC - in response to Message 1821312.  

What flavour? Sweet, Lemon or Green? :-)

No abusive comments involving race, nationality, gender, class or sexuality. <-- that flavor

One will never get away from that particular issue for the simple fact that many do not comprehend the written or spoken word.

Those with a "superior" attitude often use words that they "think" dumbfound the "Proletariat".

Tis DIXIE.


Gary,

It is not really fair to lump all of 'Dixie' together.

Regarding the issue of Slavery:
In 'Dixie', most 'white' households did NOT own slaves. Only the more wealthy ones did.

In the 1860 census, the figures reported were:
1. Lower South (SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, TX, FL - seceded prior to Ft. Sumter): 36.7% of white families owned slaves.
2. Mid-South (VA, NC, TN, AR - seceded after Ft. Sumter): 25.3%.
3. Lower South + Mid-South (The Confederacy): 30.8%.
4. Texas (Part of Lower South): 28%.
5. Border States (DE, MD, KY, MO - Slave States that did NOT secede): 15.9%.
6. Total of ALL Slave States: 26%.

Also, some of the most ardent abolitionists were Southern, specifically, Southern Preachers).

Also, the primary slave-owners in the South were the wealthy Plantation owners, the bulk of which were either transplanted British nobility & aristocracy, or those seeking to emulate them.

There was a considerable cultural difference between the antebellum Southern Aristocrats, and the 'poor folks' who spent the great majority of their efforts in subsistence-level agriculture.

Also, do not forget that (for the period of 1630 to 1776), about half of the white immigrants to the British North American colonies came under indentured servitude (about 200,000 voluntary, and about 50,000 the result of criminal convictions). This condition, especially considering that (just as with Slaves) runaways would be hunted down and returned. And that those masters given to flogging frequently did not care whether the person getting flogged was white or black. And that even though (unlike with Slavery) Indentures had an end-point in time only about 40% of the Indentured Servants lived to complete their term of servitude... The institution of Servitude left a very SOUR taste in the mouths of a great many people, including many of the former indentured servants and their descendants in the South.

Please don't lump all the (white) inhabitants of the South together as a bunch of rabid racist sheetheads. They aren't.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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Message 1821382 - Posted: 2 Oct 2016, 23:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 1821375.  

Please don't lump all the (white) inhabitants of the South together as a bunch of rabid racist sheetheads. They aren't.

Morris Dees certainly isn't and he lives in the South. I believe MK you are the first one to use the word "all." Does it fit you?

BTW non-owner does not mean they did not rent slaves or that given money they would not have been owners, or fully support ownership.

DIXIE refers to the attitude of the Antebellum South that ownership of people is permissible; it refers to Jim Crow laws; it refers to the moral superiority of one over another. You want to consign it to the dustbin of history, but it does seem to live on in the moneyed privileged whites who cling to tradition as strongly as ISIL clings to 6th century traditions. They even map it.

All, no, but many can become trapped by tradition and do it out of habit, just like a smoker takes a drag of his filthy cancer stick, which they make in the south.


Interesting percentages. 74.7% non-owners but they still voted to exit. Makes me think the 3/4 of the states is a too low number to amend. Perhaps it needs to be 5/6.
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Message 1821415 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 3:01:37 UTC - in response to Message 1821382.  

Please don't lump all the (white) inhabitants of the South together as a bunch of rabid racist sheetheads. They aren't.

Morris Dees certainly isn't and he lives in the South. I believe MK you are the first one to use the word "all." Does it fit you?

BTW non-owner does not mean they did not rent slaves or that given money they would not have been owners, or fully support ownership.

DIXIE refers to the attitude of the Antebellum South that ownership of people is permissible; it refers to Jim Crow laws; it refers to the moral superiority of one over another. You want to consign it to the dustbin of history, but it does seem to live on in the moneyed privileged whites who cling to tradition as strongly as ISIL clings to 6th century traditions. They even map it.

All, no, but many can become trapped by tradition and do it out of habit, just like a smoker takes a drag of his filthy cancer stick, which they make in the south.


Interesting percentages. 74.7% non-owners but they still voted to exit. Makes me think the 3/4 of the states is a too low number to amend. Perhaps it needs to be 5/6.


Dixie is the name of a geographical region.


the states of the SE United States & especially those which constituted the Confederacy


As to the 74.7%... Perhaps this indicates that there were OTHER issues at work in addition to slavery that caused the vote to be for secession.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Dixie
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1821419 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 3:28:44 UTC

Guilt by miss-association get lots of traction these days in some circles. Har!
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Message 1821436 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 5:09:22 UTC - in response to Message 1821419.  

Guilt by miss-association get lots of traction these days in some circles. Har!

Yep and Donald is playing his cards on it (even if he doesn't pay his taxes).

But I must say that you guys are very entertaining in your views and I'm getting a very good laugh in here at times.

I'm just surprised that there a U.S.A. left today as yous all fly apart in different directions these days.

Cheers.
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Message 1821446 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 5:47:45 UTC - in response to Message 1821436.  

Guilt by miss-association get lots of traction these days in some circles. Har!

Yep and Donald is playing his cards on it (even if he doesn't pay his taxes).

But I must say that you guys are very entertaining in your views and I'm getting a very good laugh in here at times.

I'm just surprised that there a U.S.A. left today as yous all fly apart in different directions these days.

Cheers.



Not half as entertaining as you blathering mate. Har!

Come on post again... LOL
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Message 1821449 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 5:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 1821436.  

It's a shame, the whole idea of
the place seemed like a winner!


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Message 1821467 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 8:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 1821449.  

It's a shame, the whole idea of
the place seemed like a winner!


I couldn't agree more Ian. ;-)

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Message 1821487 - Posted: 3 Oct 2016, 13:38:19 UTC

Its' been many months since I posted in this board, but I couldn't pass this up. One of the biggest questions should be not how Donald J. Trump(Drumpf) would be able to skip taxes for up to 18 years. The biggest question should be - How in the He%^ll did Trump lose almost $1B USD (916M and change) in 1995, when the country was doing a bumper business (budget surplus). And, how do you have 3 casinos, which are simply money making machines by definition, go bankrupt, and he makes a profit over those same bankruptcies. Is this the business acumen that will decide how great of a business man he is? Do his uneducated supporters, his own words, truly believe that this creature of the so called Republican Party, I say so called because the Republican Party hasn't been the Republican Party since 19665, can bring this country together and make it whole?


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