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Message 1863073 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 22:47:48 UTC - in response to Message 1863063.  

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Message 1863075 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 22:57:26 UTC - in response to Message 1863073.  

bupropion and alcohol

Been there, read that.
As I am a child of the internet, I have read almost every article about the drug and alcohol dependency.
I am risking my life, I suppose, taking this chance.
But my life has become rather empty, so what do I have to lose?
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Message 1863076 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 22:58:07 UTC - in response to Message 1863073.  

Sorry about your GF, Janne. :-(
You and her will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Mark, hope you make the right decision about the medicine. Please try to heal.
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Message 1863077 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 22:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 1863073.  

bupropion and alcohol

Because bupropion and alcohol act upon similar chemicals in the brain, there is concern that bupropion may increase the effects of alcohol -- whether by increasing depression symptoms or affecting motor skills. If you are taking bupropion and you decide to drink alcohol, you should drink only light-to-moderate amounts. It is also important that you not drink alcohol until you understand the effects that bupropion and other drugs have on your body.

So drink moderatly:)
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Message 1863081 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 23:09:54 UTC - in response to Message 1863068.  
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Bupropion is believed to act by inhibiting the reuptake of dopamine and norepinephrine also called noradrenaline in the central nervous system.
That it could lead to suicidal thoughts is doubtful.
But have you read this?
https://www.drugs.com/bupropion.html
Talk to your doctor.

Oh. One other way is always to exercise.
It's true:)
Yes it's a pain for the first 15 minutes.
But later your brain will be full with positive hormones.
A quick walk for about an hour perhaps will make you feel better without medication.

A walk about does nothing for me any more.
I am beyond that stage where simple physical stimuli work for me.
I am a devout alcoholic on weekends.
My doctor actually said....
Well, we wish you would have a drink or two every night, rather than binging on weekends.
I asked her why, and she said that it's the concentration level over hours that kills you. Not the habitual drinking.

You have a few more years at your level, and then you are off of the charts. I cannot help you if you get that far into it, Mark. So far, you are so much more healthy than most of your age. Time has treated you very very well.
So, my advice to you is to quit smoking, quit drinking, and enjoy the benefits that old age has to offer.
If you refuse my advice, I shall see you here a year from now with more ailments than you can toss at me in the 30 minutes I have to spend with you.

Mark, you are a most exceptional man at your age. Please do not continue to waste it. Few others have what you do at 60yo.

That is what she said. Coming from a 30yo some doctor./
Little does she know but what she has been taught.
She has no life experience, but I do trust that her advice is correct.
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Message 1863083 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 23:16:58 UTC - in response to Message 1863076.  

Sorry about your GF, Janne. :-(
You and her will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks Lynn:)
The Jaskari family surely has a long history of illness.
Her mother was chased by russian soldiers during WWII and fell into a pit.
She got a limp after that but died when she was only about 35 years old.
Her brother Ola died in his sleep when he was about 50 years old.
Her brother Kalle died recently of sceleton cancer about 60 years old.

And her father of course:(
Same illness as my GF has...
Diabetes!
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Message 1863086 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 23:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 1863081.  

Well I must say you have a nice doctor.
For some reason I don't think she told the whole truth.
But as you said from her conversation.
So, my advice to you is to quit smoking, quit drinking, and enjoy the benefits that old age has to offer.
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Message 1863088 - Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 23:46:17 UTC - in response to Message 1863081.  
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That is what she said. Coming from a 30yo some doctor./
Little does she know but what she has been taught.
She has no life experience, but I do trust that her advice is correct.


That is the power of a "good" education, Mark, in contrast to ideological indoctrination or whatever bad education is or good education is slandered as these days, but actual scientifically evidence-based learning firmly rooted in demonstrable reality.

A good example from history: thousands of great minds over centuries wasted their lives in alchemy trying to find the Philosopher's Stone which would turn lead or other metals into gold. One of them was arguably the greatest mind of all, Isaac Newton, who wasted about a decade on alchemy at a period of his life when he was still sharp enough to develop an entire new branch of mathematics in a weekend. Today, we can teach a grade-school child in an hour or so what we have learned since then, at least enough to demonstrate why their effort was wasted on the impossible; it's the same basis of your favorite TV show of course! There are noticeably hardly any people trying to do this anymore, so thousands or even millions of lives have been prevented from being wasted.

Thus sometimes education can override life experience as it can teach in minutes what others took lifetimes to discover. And this advice can save many lives, and vastly improve them, especially medical advice which affects our lives and quality of life very directly.
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Message 1863102 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 1:14:44 UTC - in response to Message 1863081.  

A walk about does nothing for me any more.
I am beyond that stage where simple physical stimuli work for me.


Well, I think you should try again. You have to find a good place to do your walk, too. Walking around my neighborhood would do nothing for me, but my chosen place does wonders. It's something in the feng shui for me.
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1863105 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 1:30:47 UTC
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Why am I so stubborn then, and deny things that may lead me to POUND MY HEAD INTO MY GRAVE?
Because I can and because I must.
It it in my innate soul that I must resist anything that ressists me.
I cannot ever back down.
Like a cat, I cannot show weakness, ever.
I cannot admit I am wrong, ever.
When I fail, I take it to the grave.
That is what predatory animals, the highest hierarchy, do.
Even when fatally wounded, they pretend until their dying moment, that they are.......'OK'.
I am 'OK'. even though you all know I am not.
I cannot let the predators know that.
I am 'OK'.

Shoot for the tyres.
And if you know where that came from, I give you extra bonus points to kpax.
'Cuz I AM going there.
And I get to take one person with me.
Who shall be that one?
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Message 1863112 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 2:05:01 UTC - in response to Message 1863102.  
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You have to find a good place to do your walk, too. Walking around my neighborhood would do nothing for me, but my chosen place does wonders

There lies the problem.
To walking beyond the neighborhood requires extra effort.
Now I have dog that want to explore the world.
But I don't want to go out when it's cold and dark.
Tosca goes Arf, Arf:)

Anyway I should say that walking in about 15 to 30 minutes per day will make anyone feel more better.
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Message 1863117 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 2:34:02 UTC

Ya know...........a lot of pity has been laid at the feet of those who are left to tend to their parents' needs.
And very rightly so.
But............
Has any of you given a second thought to the needs of those who are left to attend to ourselves?
Yes, I am speaking for myself and assuredly some others.
People who have been, left unattended, kept their own porches clean an swept the walks of their lives without anybody there to question or attend to them.
What happens to us?
First off, I can tell you that my health insurance shall cover me about as long as I shall live.
I have worked all of my life, and those bennies are due me.
They shall come to fruition.
Secondly,
I shall probably work until I drop. Not just because I can, but because I cannot envision life without work supporting it.
Some live to live off of the man some day, just not me.
Yeah, the vision of a life without toil and trouble entices me.
I just do not see myself ever being there, truth be told.
Maybe I shall be shocked and be told one day to walk out the door with a check in my hand.
Dunno.
Unlike some others, I am not counting on it.
Because I do believe that if and when I should try to cash in my meal ticket, I shall be told that the dog don't bark there anymore. The illegals will have eaten it all up.
Those who never paid a dime in shall reap the rewards.

And I, who paid and paid and paid and paid, will come up to the pump and find the nozzle empty for me.
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Message 1863167 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 8:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1863159.  

If I go to work and smash a coworker in the face because he pissed me off...............OMG.

You are more likely to be let go for turning up at work yet again with a hangover after a weekends boozing. That's nearer the truth.

That is what she said. Coming from a 30yo some doctor./
Little does she know but what she has been taught.
She has no life experience, but I do trust that her advice is correct.

Life experience as you term it is totally irrelevant in relation to her medical diagnosis. She trained to be a doctor you haven't. You dislike what she said because her advice was to stop smoking and binge drinking which you obviously don't want to do as they are your emotional props.

You have a few more years at your level, and then you are off of the charts. I cannot help you if you get that far into it. If you refuse my advice, I shall see you here a year from now with more ailments than you can toss at me in the 30 minutes I have to spend with you.

The truth sometimes hurts doesn't it. She has only confirmed medically what some of us have been trying to tell you for years in a different way. You've seen the state that a well known poster here gets himself into because he refuses to accept help, guidance, and advice, the only difference is that you drink, he doesn't. He doesn't get any sympathy for his bull headed attitude, nor will you.

Chris............I love you dearly, although some do not.
Same applies to me, I suggest.
I have the same bull headed attitude that will follow me to the grave as I always have.
Only the Lord above can change that, and He has shown no evidence of us parting ways.
He loves me as his son, and always shall.
AS to the kitties, he in this world, has blessed me with their presence.
I am a bit dismayed because of their physical demise.
As am I for my own bits of human desecration.
I do understand such thingys.
But that does not mean that I accept them willingly.
Let's just say that I am not going down without a fight for it.
Even the Lord above is gonna have a time taking my life from me, because for all the wicked things I have done, and all the caterwaulling I have done, I do love my life with all of me heart.
And nobody or nothing is gonna take it from me gently.
Meow.
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Message 1863182 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 9:31:55 UTC

Being a person who uses this thread once in a while I am upset to see it being taken over for the weekend fantasy.

Remember it has been stated by Mark himself that anything posted between Friday and Sunday is probably not factual.

Nothing wrong with that, just not in this very personal thread.

I could as moderator hide or move these posts, but, I could be accused of self interest. Also I just want others to see.
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Message 1863369 - Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 23:35:37 UTC - in response to Message 1863083.  

Sorry about your GF, Janne. :-(
You and her will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks Lynn:)
The Jaskari family surely has a long history of illness.
Her mother was chased by russian soldiers during WWII and fell into a pit.
She got a limp after that but died when she was only about 35 years old.
Her brother Ola died in his sleep when he was about 50 years old.
Her brother Kalle died recently of sceleton cancer about 60 years old.

And her father of course:(
Same illness as my GF has...
Diabetes!


Sorry to hear all the problems with the family.
Yes, on top of all my hubby's problems he has Diabetes.


You take care Janne, take good care of Tosca. :)
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Message 1863465 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 13:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 1863369.  
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Yes, on top of all my hubby's problems he has Diabetes.

Hubby. Is that your dog?
Yes. Dogs can have diabetes and cats as well I think.
Tosca however will never get diabetes.
First she smell the food given and decides to eat that later.
After a while she bring some of it to her favorite place under an armchair.
Very much like a Fox actually:)
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Message 1863469 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 13:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 1863467.  

Janne, Hubby is a Husband!!

What's the matter with you??
I asked a question and you as always have to comment on my bad english.
Behave!
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Message 1863472 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 14:06:29 UTC

I google lots of words I don't understand.

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Message 1863536 - Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 22:21:08 UTC
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A Jojk to my GF:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qA7GDkKZJk&list=PLYjs7D_Et40S6JkpgGU21h3Vc4VnAruxJ
She was actually born in a Goahti or a Lavvu.
KÃ¥ta in Swedish.
Her mother was a Same.

My GF's operation has been postponed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tfvV-5Wq4w&list=PLYjs7D_Et40S6JkpgGU21h3Vc4VnAruxJ&index=4
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Message 1863599 - Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 5:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 1863536.  

Hubby. Is that your dog?

Janne, Don't worry about it. Honest mistake. :)

Sorry your GF, surgery was postponed.
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