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Message 64480 - Posted: 14 Jan 2005, 3:10:42 UTC
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Hi all!

I'd like to add a Winchester Athlon64 to my little farm, and I'm wondering how well it will perform.

If you're running one of these, just post your setup - Mobo, RAM, OC :o),
and the WU completion times.

(Hope you don't mind)

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Message 64502 - Posted: 14 Jan 2005, 3:36:39 UTC
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The winchester loves the sun, so place it accordingly. Don't forget to crank up the voltage, just a little, to keep the roots flowing smoothly. Oh, and don't forget to feed it a bunch of freshly split Work Units.Edit}don't ignore it's needs for flowing water through the CPU cooler {edit

If you find it doesn't perform and flower in your Garden then you can always send it to me. I have the perfect location for it.

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Message 64505 - Posted: 14 Jan 2005, 3:43:36 UTC - in response to Message 64502.  

> If you find it doesn't perform and flower in your Garden then you can always
> send it to me. I have the perfect location for it.
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If it's flowering, I'll mail you some seeds :p

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Message 69856 - Posted: 15 Jan 2005, 23:58:07 UTC

Athlon64 3500+
Asus A8V Deluxe
Corsair TwinX1024-3200XLPRO
no overclock

Completion time ranges from just under 2 hours to around 2:20. Recently they've all pretty much been running around 2:20 though.
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Message 69882 - Posted: 16 Jan 2005, 0:43:14 UTC - in response to Message 64480.  

> Hi all!
> I'd like to add a Winchester Athlon64 to my little farm, and I'm wondering how
> well it will perform.
> If you're running one of these, just post your setup - Mobo, RAM, OC :o),
> and the WU completion times.
> (Hope you don't mind)
> Regards Hans
>
Of course I do mind Hans you must keep things in proportion! Forget this Winchester business your farm does not need strangers. Your farm has been working recently really hard and it deserves a nice little rest. Just press the OFF switch and you will see in a month or two your farm will be running again with new vigour. [Evil Grin].

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Message 69891 - Posted: 16 Jan 2005, 0:59:30 UTC

Hans, if you're planning to use this Winchester (lol) only for SETI - better keep your money for the moment. They arent much faster than normal Athlons (my Athlon XP 3200+ does a WU in 2:15-2:36). If we see a 64bit version of SETI soon - it's another thing.

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Message 69929 - Posted: 16 Jan 2005, 1:44:47 UTC - in response to Message 69856.  
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> Athlon64 3500+
> Asus A8V Deluxe
> Corsair TwinX1024-3200XLPRO
> no overclock
>
> Completion time ranges from just under 2 hours to around 2:20. Recently
> they've all pretty much been running around 2:20 though.
>

Thanks for that.

Not exactly light speed, but according to tomshardware, the winchester only draws around 30W at full load, so the mips/watt is pretty OK.

>Hans, if you're planning to use this Winchester (lol) only for SETI - better keep your money for the moment.
>They arent much faster than normal Athlons (my Athlon XP 3200+ does a WU in :15-2:36).
> If we see a 64bit version of SETI soon - it's another thing.

I'll try rolling my own 64bit client.

Regards Hans

P.S:

The power comparision chart can be found here:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041115/pentium4_570-20.html
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Message 69942 - Posted: 16 Jan 2005, 2:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 69929.  
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> ... but according to tomshardware, the winchester only draws 35W at full load, > so the mips/watt is pretty OK.

35W? Do you really believe this? It works at 1.5V and about a 60A at full load!


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> I'll try rolling my own 64bit client.
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> Regards Hans
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WOW, that would be great! :)


EDIT: I didnt see your P.S. :)

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Message 69948 - Posted: 16 Jan 2005, 2:09:50 UTC - in response to Message 69942.  
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> WOW, that would be great! :)
>
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> EDIT: I didnt see your P.S. :)
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>

I was cheating. (editing my post while you replied) :o)

The cost won't be terribly high, too.

Most of my boards are stripped to the bone:
Just a mainboard with cpu and ram, an old HD, and a power supply,
sitting in a rack.

Most mainboards don't even need a graphics card to boot into linux.

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Message 70033 - Posted: 16 Jan 2005, 4:29:45 UTC

Yeah, im getting about two and a half hours per wu with my 3200+, overclocks well too!

I had it at 2.4 for a few days, then put it at 2.5 and got a blue screen after about an hour, so its at 2.3 now because i didnt feel like upping the voltage more, and stock is 2, so those are nice overclocks for stock cooling (stays around 40 degrees with either of these clocks)...

running 1 stick of buffalo (recognized as melco) 2700+ ram (at around 191-192 atm, just noiced now that the ram was overclocked (oops) but its stable and thats all that matters)

memory timings are cas 2.5 ras-cas 3 ras 3 tras 7 trc 10 dram idle 16

HTT is currently 230*10=2.3Ghz

voltage varies from 1.472-1.504 normally (its set to 1.5), (stock is 1.4)

motherboard is asus a8v deluxe without wifi
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Message 70533 - Posted: 17 Jan 2005, 4:20:29 UTC - in response to Message 70033.  

> Yeah, im getting about two and a half hours per wu with my 3200+, overclocks
> well too!
>

Hmmm. I guess I'll be waiting for a while, to see if AMD brings out 90nm Athlons with 1MB L2, too ;-)

(Might be happening early this year)


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Message 71291 - Posted: 18 Jan 2005, 18:49:25 UTC

Hans; I have a winchester core A64 3000, MSI Neo2 Platinum motherboard, and OCZ 3200 EL DDR ram. The A64 is o'clocked to 2.7 ghz with stock cooling. For some reason Boinc keeps sending this machine work units in the 5.5 hour range (Boinc's estimate). The rig disposes of them in 3hours and change each. When I was getting the 3 hour 30 minute units, they processed in about 2 hours each. The A64 winnie is an excellent cruncher.
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Message 71604 - Posted: 19 Jan 2005, 4:15:58 UTC - in response to Message 70533.  
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> Hmmm. I guess I'll be waiting for a while, to see if AMD brings out 90nm
> Athlons with 1MB L2, too ;-)
>
> (Might be happening early this year)

Hans,

You do mean the Athlon64, right? It looks like AMD will be launching the new 90nm Athlon64 FX with 1MB L2 cache (San Diego single processor core) sometime in the second quarter of this year. link

I'm trying to find out if AMD is going to wait to release their E0 stepping on those models or if they will be available sometime sooner. The E0 stepping will have an improved memory controller, SSE3, and strained silicon that will reduce their power consumption and heat generation even further. link

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Message 71613 - Posted: 19 Jan 2005, 4:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 71604.  
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> I'm trying to find out if AMD is going to wait to release their E0 stepping on
> those models or if they will be available sometime sooner. The E0 stepping
> will have an improved memory controller, SSE3, and strained silicon that will
> reduce their power consumption and heat generation even further. <a> href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20780"> link[/url]
>

Sounds promising :o)
[EDIT]
For 1MB L2, this would be the "venice" core. I hope they bring out some affordable CPUs.
[EDIT]

ATM I only found an Athlon64 4000+ in 90nm (1MB L2), but for over EUR 700 a piece, I'll pass...

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Message 71674 - Posted: 19 Jan 2005, 10:28:06 UTC

Hans
You dont need a Winnie to get a fast cruncer. Imo u should wait or buy a Athlon mobile :-) like me.
I do WU in 1h 57 min with a XP M Barton @ 2760Mhz
<img src="http://www.boincstats.com/stats/banner.php?cpid=a391dacd6238aec627931362f1150623">
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Message 71773 - Posted: 19 Jan 2005, 16:42:40 UTC
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Warning,

The "winchester" that the chip is named after is the famed winchester rifle company, from the times of the "old west". As in 'Winchester tamed the west'.

My warning to you is, most people don't know that Winchester's wife was driven mad by the thought of being haunted by all those killed by her husband's rifles. A mystic told her as long as she kept building her house, the activity would keep the ghosts away...so she kept up building until the day she died.

Don't let this be you and BOINC!!!
http://www.winchestermysteryhouse.com/story.html

P.S.: Hans, you already know how to speed up your crunching farm 30%.
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Message 71833 - Posted: 19 Jan 2005, 20:55:55 UTC - in response to Message 71773.  

> Warning,
>
> The "winchester" that the chip is named after is the famed winchester rifle
> company, from the times of the "old west". As in 'Winchester tamed the
> west'.
>
> My warning to you is, most people don't know that Winchester's wife was driven
> mad by the thought of being haunted by all those killed by her husband's
> rifles. A mystic told her as long as she kept building her house, the
> activity would keep the ghosts away...so she kept up building until the day
> she died.
>
> Don't let this be you and BOINC!!!
> http://www.winchestermysteryhouse.com/story.html
>

Looks like a nice place for setting up a seti farm :o)

> P.S.: Hans, you already know how to speed up your crunching farm 30%.
>

;-)

Lookie here: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=408162

Still has to be beaten w.r.t CPU time per WU!

Regards Hans


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Message 71907 - Posted: 20 Jan 2005, 0:53:10 UTC

Hmmm. Sarah Winchester.....Spirits.......

I wonder if some people here fear that if they ever quit adding processors to their farms, then the evil spirits will get them????

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Message 71911 - Posted: 20 Jan 2005, 1:02:52 UTC - in response to Message 71833.  
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> Lookie here: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=408162
>
> Still has to be beaten w.r.t CPU time per WU!
>
> Regards Hans
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Hans..hans...hans...tsk tsk.

That machine, with one real CPU, outputs ~14 WUs per day.
This machine, with one real CPU, outputs ~25 WUs per day.
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=316624

And it is only 2.8Gig. -- ;)

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Message 71914 - Posted: 20 Jan 2005, 1:07:03 UTC - in response to Message 71911.  
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> > Lookie here: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=408162
> >
> > Still has to be beaten w.r.t CPU time per WU!
> >
> > Regards Hans
> >
>
> Hans..hans...hans...tsk tsk.
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I know, I know :o)

> That machine, with one real CPU, outputs ~14 WUs per day.
> This machine, with one real CPU, outputs ~25 WUs per day.
> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=316624
>
> And it is only 2.8Gig. -- ;)
>

I was referring to the 6000 seconds/WU, not total throughput.


Regards Hans


P.S:

BTW, is that one of yours ? ;-)

I guess this baby will go below 6000 in single threaded mode, but
that'd be a waste of time....


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