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Message 1803522 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 21:38:39 UTC
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To: Dr. Eric Korpela, Director

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WARUM werden nur noch alte Pakete immer und IMMER wieder versendet und von neuen Berechnet. bin schon seit 2003 dabei aber diesen Blödsinn es reicht langsam ECHT


was ist mit dem Radio Telekop Aufzeichnungen von den jahren: 2012. 2013 ,2014, 2015 ,2016 WO ZUM TEUFEL SIND DIESE DATEN DENN man hört immer Jahre lang das ihr sucht und immer bleiben die Berechnung im Jahre 2010 stehen oder noch älter

Was soll das IHR MÜSST EINMAL STELLUNG NEHMEN / EINE NORMALE ERKLÄRUNG DAZU ABGEBEN DORT DRÜBEN bei EUCH Im Arecibo-Observatorium
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WHY are only old packages and always ALWAYS sent back and new calculated. am already since 2003. However that this nonsense is sufficient slowly REAL


What about the radio Telekop records of the years: 2012. 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 WHERE THE HELL ARE THESE DATA BECAUSE one hears years that you seek and make the calculation in 2010 standing or even older

What do YOU MUST ONCE POSITION COMPANY / A NORMAL DECLARATION TO DELIVER OVER THERE THERE YOU at the Arecibo Observatory
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Message 1803539 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 22:31:52 UTC
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You might wish to look here where Richard Haselgrove has kept a record of all the tapes that have been split.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74238#1483744

As you can see data up to 2015 has been distributed.

SETI@Home only gets data when others are using the telescope.

We are also now getting Greenbak data which is currently prefixed "blc4_2bit_guppi" then a number which is a modified Julian date.

See here for a converter http://www.csgnetwork.com/julianmodifdateconv.html

From which you can see the tapes currently being split are

57451 - 03-04-2016 and 57403 - 01-16-2016


Also typing in all capitals is considered rude, please do not do it.

Thank you
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Message 1803542 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 22:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 1803539.  
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how should we understand the data correctly or read ???

also can not agree because for such hoW one gets not what was stated


:-( >>> Also typing in all capitals is considered rude, please do not do it.


???????????????????????????????????????? es war eine normale frage denn immerhin ist es unsere rechenleistung und wird man dann mal fragen dürfen waru,m wir immer nur alte WUs bekommen aus dem Jahre Schnee von gestern
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Message 1803547 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 23:20:00 UTC

The list was put together by Richard Haselgrove and required time and effort and you obviously have never seen it before and dismiss it as rubbish

Sorry but you are incorrect, data from all those yeas has been sent and returned.

If you look at the Richards chart you will see 2015 in not "missing".








And there are more. Are you suggesting that Richard made this up?
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Message 1803549 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 23:25:17 UTC - in response to Message 1803547.  
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ja nur diese WUs bekommt man nie zu gesicht das is halt das Problem seh immer nur 2010 und so einen blödsinn!!

>>>>>>>>>>Recorded on Fri Dec 31 05.51:28 2010

Recorded on Fri Dec 31 05.51:28 2010

Recorded on Fri Dec 31 05.51:28 2010 .................................................................................... wo ist was von 2012 etc.????
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Message 1803553 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 23:32:44 UTC
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You do of course realise that as the newer applications are developed (we have recently moved to version 8) that older data is sent out again for re-checking by the newer app.

As the newer app can look at the data in more detail

The newer Greenbank work units are all from this year, the way the date is recorded is a system used in many scientific fields across many countries. Remember just because it is the 20th of July not every other country uses the same calendar.
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Message 1803555 - Posted: 19 Jul 2016, 23:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1803553.  
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OK <<<<< >>>> You do of course realise that as the newer applications are developed (we have recently moved to version 8) that older data is sent out again for re-checking by the newer app.


aber wenn dem so is dann kommt man mit der forschung der Suche nie auf einen grünen Zweig DAS GEHT EWIG SO WEITER UND NUR ZEIT VERSCHWENDUNG DENN WIR SOLLTEN DIE NEUEN JAHRE DURCH DIE NEUE APP JAGEN wäre 100 % besser sinnvoller


old daten re-checking by the newer app (app 6, app 7 , app 8 ) >>> SCHWACHSINN was soll dabei raus kommen ausser das selbe

in the app version 6 to 7 is made by all nonsense and nothing here comes out I learn from this and do not make the error of 7 to 8 again

want but monetary donations

FOR WHAT for the senseless repeating of old data and outputs and year ???

More than questionable ALL UNDER FIELD AND ON A GREEN BRANCH WILL THEN NOT !!!! as well as

wenn bei der app version 6 auf 7 der ganz blödsinn durchgemacht wird und nix dabei raus kommt lerne ich daraus und mach den fehler nicht von 7 auf 8 nochmals

aber geld spenden wollen

FÜR WAS für das sinnlose wiederholen von alten daten und und jahrgängen???

MEHR ALS FRAGWÃœRDIG DAS GANZE UNTERFANGEN UND AUF EINEN GRÃœNEN ZWEIG FÃœHRT ES DANN NICHT!!!! wie auch
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Message 1803580 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 1:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 1803555.  

Obviously you sound pissed and aren't going to listen to reason. Not sure what we can tell you to change your mind other than tell you what you want to hear.

Fact of the matter is, as Bernie said, old recordings might still have interesting data in it, but we wouldn't know it unless we processed it with a better application. Yes, this happened from v6 to v7, and it happened again from v7 to v8. And guess what? It'll happen from v8 to v9. That's called progress.


The biggest thing you should take away from any of this is that the dates don't matter one iota! The recordings all traveled light years and are therefore potentially thousands of years old. Processing data from 2016 or reprocessing data from 2003 isn't going to make a bit difference in a universe that's billions of years old. 2003 was just a split second ago in Carl Sagan's Cosmic Calendar.

Stay pissed if you want to. Don't donate money if you've lost interest in the project and it's stated goals. It is ultimately your choice. Again, focusing on the recorded year is pointless and no reason to get upset over.
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Message 1803584 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 1:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 1803580.  
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bla bla bla is scho guat alter

scheiss drauf alter reg dich wieder ab ja aja fortschritt der technik von wegen 7 auf 8 und weiter was solls is eh sinnlos drüber zu reden

spende du dein geld für den dreck und aus lass die kirche im dorf den n drum gehts net -- sondern alleine um die alten daten ja womöglich is was drin aber zu 99% isT nix zu finden was net vorher auch schon DA war ALSO !!
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Message 1803588 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 2:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 1803584.  

Much gold has been found reprocessing old tailings
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Message 1803600 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 3:48:23 UTC
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Hör mal auf hier rum zu motzen.
Wenn du wirklich an Fakten interessiert bist erkläre ich es.

Nicht in diesem Ton.


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Message 1803619 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 5:52:33 UTC

The totally unexplained Fast Radio Bursts were found in old Parkes data and confirmed by Arecibo and Green Bank data. They are still waiting for an explanation. See the "Nature" 30 June issue.
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Message 1803628 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 7:19:19 UTC

Unfortunately I cannot actually understand all of what you are saying as the translations, either yours or Google translate, do not make total sense.

You probably need someone like Mike to explain it in your own language.

Mike is well respected here on the forums and he will be able to explain it.

Please calm down and let Mike explain.


Leider kann ich nicht wirklich alle verstehen, was Sie wie die Übersetzungen sagen, entweder Ihre eigenen oder Google zu übersetzen, nicht total Sinn.

Sie müssen wahrscheinlich jemanden wie Mike es in Ihrer eigenen Sprache zu erklären.

Mike ist gut hier in den Foren respektiert und er wird es erklären können.

Bitte beruhigen und ließ Mike erklären.
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Message 1803629 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 7:25:58 UTC - in response to Message 1803619.  

The totally unexplained Fast Radio Bursts were found in old Parkes data and confirmed by Arecibo and Green Bank data. They are still waiting for an explanation. See the "Nature" 30 June issue.
Tullio

"Why ultra-powerful radio bursts are the most perplexing mystery in astronomy"
http://www.nature.com/news/why-ultra-powerful-radio-bursts-are-the-most-perplexing-mystery-in-astronomy-1.20175
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Message 1803635 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 8:53:50 UTC - in response to Message 1803628.  

Bernie, I hope I am not pouring additional petrol into the flame, but Plejaden is writing in a mix of rather poor/dialectal German (which in my opinion is as polite as misusing capital letters).
Mike has of course a clearer view of what I am humbly saying.

Against this there is little hope that automatic translators can do very much to improve our understanding of his thoughts expressed in this way.

I know a bit of German, though it is not my mother tongue, and I usually do not need any translator in German forums, but his (un)intentional jargon puts me in some trouble understanding.

Bottom line of my humble opinion: if you cannot speak English well, at least make some effort in writing in a standard version of your mother tongue (which is actually what usually happens when occasionally German speaking people write here in their mother tongue).

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Message 1803638 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 9:26:55 UTC

Going back to what I read as the OP's question, and not getting embroiled in what language to use...

There has been very little data produced by the Arecibo telescope in the last twelve months. SETI@Home does not select when data is collected - that would cost a lot of money, but has sharing agreements with a number of other users of the telescope, this allows SETI@Home to get data at a price that is affordable to the project.
Earlier this year a major new application was launched by SETI@Home, this is more sensitive than the old one, and is better at filtering signals from noise than the old one. Added to this there have been a number of other changes which have allowed the project to reprocess "tapes" that were previously processed.
I hope his helps.

And after Google translate:

Es gab nur sehr wenige Daten von der Arecibo-Teleskop in den letzten zwölf Monaten produziert. SETI @ Home wählen nicht, wenn Daten gesammelt werden - das ist eine Menge Geld kosten würde, hat aber Vereinbarungen mit einer Reihe von anderen Benutzern des Teleskops teilen, ermöglicht diese SETI @ Home, um Daten zu einem Preis erhalten, die dem Projekt erschwinglich .
Zu Beginn dieses Jahres wurde von SETI @ Home hat eine wichtige neue Anwendung ist diese empfindlicher ist als die alte, und ist besser auf Filtern von Signalen von Lärm als das alte. Dazu gibt es eine Reihe von anderen Veränderungen, die das Projekt ermöglicht haben erneut zu verarbeiten "Bänder", die zuvor verarbeitet wurden.
Ich hoffe das hilft.
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Message 1803644 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 9:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 1803638.  
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IS OK GUT ERKLÄRT Thanks

*Thanks to all who submitted a reasonable explanation to
Danke allen die eine vernünftige erklärung abgaben dazu*
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Message 1803653 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 11:37:30 UTC

BoincLogX <<<< then this part is but also for new standards then inaccurate / ALT and displays old or incorrect data /
in assessing the signals

when the Seti - version 8 hotels by completely different or search results
is working!?

BoincLogX <<<< dann ist dieses teil aber doch auch nach neuen Maßstäben dann ungenau / ALT und zeigt alte bzw. falsche daten an /
in der Beurteilung der Signale

wenn die Seti - version 8 nach ganz anderen filtern bzw. Suchergebnisse
arbeitet!?
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Message 1803656 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 12:04:01 UTC

BoincLogX wurde schon eine Weile nicht mehr überarbeitet.

Schau dir doch mal Seti Spirit an.

http://www.setispirit.de/products.htm

Dirk arbeitet eigentlich ständig an Verbesserungen und updates.

Im übrigen bearbeiten wir seit einer Weile auch Daten vom Green Banks Telescope.
Das sind WU`s die mit blc beginnen.
Da werden nur sogennnte Kepler Planeten beobachtet.
Ebenso sollen in Zukunft noch Daten vom Australischen Parks Telskop dazu kommen.

Also es tut sich schon etwas.

Gruß
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Message 1803658 - Posted: 20 Jul 2016, 12:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1803656.  

BoincLogX wurde schon eine Weile nicht mehr überarbeitet.

ja so is es leider.

danke wegen dem link werde es mal an testen ist das wie BoincLogX? mit einer star map?

Im übrigen bearbeiten wir seit einer Weile auch Daten vom Green Banks Telescope.
Das sind WU`s die mit blc beginnen.


ja die hab ich schon gesehen diese WUs nd schon informiert drüber danke.

ja ich hoff auch das sich was tut

mfg.
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