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Scientist Michio Kaku Finally Proves God Exist
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
‘God is a mathematician’ The universe did not form by accident, according to a top scientist. There are several more articles he has written. The existence of God may be proven with a theory, according to the world-renowned theoretical physicist Michio Kaku. According to the scientist, using theoretical particles called primitive semi-radius tachyons could be used to conclude if a Higher Being really exists once and for all. http://www.australianetworknews.com/scientist-michio-kaku-finally-proves-god-exist/ |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Poorly-written article, ie "After running some tests on these particles..." Those hypothetical, never-observed, staple-of-cheap-sci-fi particles, the tachyons? How is anyone "running some tests" on them? Oh, thought experiments. The title is also clickbait with a typo: "Scientist Michio Kaku Finally Proves God Exist" (yes, there's a missing "s" at the end) but then the first sentence "The existence of God may be proven with a theory..." Uh huh. I guess he's angling for a Templeton. :^p I'm betting this line of inquiry won't result in anything else. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Oh my God:) He must have been read "Our Mathematical Universe" by Max Tegmark. http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/mathematical.html Oh. He have:) "Daring, Radical. Innovative. A game changer. If Dr. Tegmark is correct, this represents a paradigm shift in the relationship between physics and mathematics, forcing us to rewrite our textbooks. A must read for anyone deeply concerned about our universe." —Prof. Michio Kaku, author of Physics of the Future If they are correct then it also means that there are multiverses out there. Max is very inspired by late Hugh Everett III's work from the 50's. PARALLEL WORLDS, PARALLEL LIVES. https://vimeo.com/58603054 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse Proponents of one of the multiverse hypotheses include Stephen Hawking,[16] Brian Greene,[17][18] Max Tegmark,[19] Alan Guth,[20] Andrei Linde,[21] Michio Kaku,[22] David Deutsch,[23] Leonard Susskind,[24] Alexander Vilenkin,[25] Yasunori Nomura,[26] Raj Pathria,[27] Laura Mersini-Houghton,[28][29] Neil deGrasse Tyson,[30] and Sean Carroll.[31] |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Sorry, I have already proven some time ago that she does not exist--at least at the present time-- by using formal logic and coming to a contradiction using Modus Ponens. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Sorry, I have already proven some time ago that she does not exist--at least at the present time-- by using formal logic and coming to a contradiction using Modus Ponens. Yes. But can you use logic in for instance the quantum world? Scientists says no. Perhaps God is lurking in there somewhere... |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
The existence of God cannot be neither proven nor unproven. C'est un pari, you must bet, said Blaise Pascal who was both a mystic and a mathematician. Tulio |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Michio Kaku: Is God a Mathematician? was uploaded on youtube already in 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jremlZvNDuk Strange that so many "media" outlets are writing about this now. Whatever. Michio is a very good communicator. http://mkaku.org/ BTW. Michio Kaku Figure Skating:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qza3JY0cXIY |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Many people have had a close encounter with God. I shall name only a few: Hildegarde von Bingen, the unknown British monk author of the "Cloud of the unknowing", Juan de La Cruz, Teresa de Avila, and Georges Bernanos in modern times. The same experience has been described by Hindu and Islam mystics. Tullio |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
A lot of people also have had close encounters with Santa Claus. Even more in context with this place: how many people have claimed to been abducted by aliens, including the requisite nasty medical exams? This is about as far from the actual science of SETI as one can get, just as Michio Kaku has just gotten about as far from the actual science of physics as one can get. Strange that so many "media" outlets are writing about this now. The repetition of bad ideas is certainly nothing new, especially ones where a seeming scientific authority figure claims to be able prove unprovable things ie the existence or non-existence of god(s) etc. Of course some parts of the media are going to forgo due diligence and jump at some guaranteed clicks or newspaper sales (we've already seen one misleading headline from it in the linked article.) |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
You can write down what traits are necessary for your god to exist. id est: If there is a god she must be merciful If there is a god she must be compassionate If there is a god then she must not demand retribution If there is a god she must not require worship -------------------------------------------------- Etc. If you accept these premises and you can prove that any of them are not in evidence then you have a valid and sound argument about the original supposition of existence. Ne pas ? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Many people have had a close encounter with God. I shall name only a few: Hildegarde von Bingen, the unknown British monk author of the "Cloud of the unknowing", Juan de La Cruz, Teresa de Avila, and Georges Bernanos in modern times. The same experience has been described by Hindu and Islam mystics. So does many shamans. But usually they use drugs in order to get contact with God. Or holy spirits at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism I think all these close encounters can be explained scientifically in the fields of medicin or psychiatry |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
After a couple of boilermakers in a ski lodge bar in upper Michigan, I went out on a frozen and frosty day to the backside of Boyne Mountain and I saw god: or so i reported to my fellow ski-clubbers. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Bach, Dante, Michelangelo, Milton, Mozart and Ludwig Van Beethoven, whose Missa Solemnis I am going to listen, have all drawn inspiration from what people call "fairy tales". What would our culture be without God? Tullio |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
The Greek and Latin literary masterpieces in Italy were saved by Benedictine monasteries, like Montecassino, which was uselessly destroyed by an American bomber raid in 1944 after having been destroyed by Lombards and Muslims in earlier centuries. Fortunately its library had been transferred to the Vatican in Rome by a Wehrmacht officer who was a Catholic. Tullio This is civilization. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
What would our culture be without God? I'm an agnostic, just in case. I don't want to wind up in Dante's Inferno. I have very big problem with religous people that always claims that there is a God. Period. What else? Perhaps the question "What else?" is a more appropriate approach. To me there are bigger questions. How can a collection of atoms have self awareness? The collection of atoms can even wonder how they came to be. Even starting questions about if there is a God or not. Mindgobbling... |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Show me a Divina Commedia or a Mattheus Passio written by an atheist and I shall become an atheist too. Tullio |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
I'm wondering how long before this thread having wandered off, wanders into Politics. This isn't about culture or art or religion. It's simply a scientist making bad scientific pronouncements based on shaky hypotheses on a controversial subject he has no business using his scientific authority on, and nothing else. Show me a Divina Commedia or a Mattheus Passio written by an atheist and I shall become an atheist too. Did you forget the works of Giuseppe Verdi? (Including a very nice Requiem.) You are right, but I was not the first to speak of "fairy tales". DNFTT. :^) |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
You are right, but I was not the first to speak of "fairy tales". Tullio |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Yes, probably saved in Montecassino. Tullio Nothing newer? |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Nothing newer? You threw down the challenge and asked for one, believing that Atheists can't create beautiful things. He gave you one like you asked for. |
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