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Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Muhammad Ali, R.I.P. Boxing should be illegal. It is difficult to defend a "sport" in which somebody is declared a "winner" when he has given his opponent a head injury. There is nothing sporting about brain damage. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19012 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Totally agree. But if people do wish to keep sports that cause brain injuries, then they should remove the so called protection. In Boxing, the gloves, because in most cases the hand would be injured before the brain. And in American Football the helmets, players wouldn't go in head first, most of the time, without a helmet. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I wont dispute that at all. But football should also be banned. Along with Mixed martial arts, and or any sport where one can sustain a head injury. He had Parkinsons. I hope some day they find out what causes it. Its not hereditary as the Drs. tell me. But as my dad wasted away from it I hope it isn't. As far as I know my dad never had a concussion or brain injury. He played no sports in school. But here in NY state we all take the slip on a icy sidewalk that's rings our bell. I think sports should really take a second look at player safety. ( Hello NFL are you paying attention ) But we as humans still like to go see the gladiators. [/quote] Old James |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Three Gladiators. Ingemar "Ingo" Johansson who won the heavy weight WBC title in 1959. Ingo's last years of life, suffering from dementia in a special housing, I as a neurosurgeon and brain injury researchers, unfortunately, can not help but also think about the serious consequences of the sport Ingo exercised. The term dementia pugilistika scientific is used for this clinical situation but a plurality of nickname such as "goofy", "slug nutty", "cuckoo", "slap happy" or "punchig" have long been used. Bosse Högberg, once a fierce European champion in the light middleweight division, was later suffering from aphasia after a stroke, 1988. Frida Wallberg would defend her WBC title in Stockholm, but in the eighth round she was knocked by Diana Prazak. Wallberg was transferred to Karolinska University Hospital, where she underwent surgery for acute stroke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Xnpijr0bA |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, I could not agree more! I never saw the significance of 2 guys/gals beating the crap out of each other, head injuries or no. Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I have never cared for boxing in any form. I remember when I was young my Dad would watch the Saturday night fights on TV. He had been a middle weight boxer in the Navy and I recall his pride for defending his ship's honor. But nobody forced him to do it just like nobody forced Muhammad Ali to get into the ring and if he had any regrets about boxing he never voiced them. Many sports have a dangerous violent side and I believe that's what makes them attractive. Now if someone is forced to participate in violent sport for someone else's profit that is different but as long as a person willingly signs up for and participates in a dangerous occupation, be it sport or blindingly hard work like mining or Alaska commercial fishing then that is their choice. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Ring doctors are what need to be banned. Any doctor who clears anyone for any of the blood sports should have their license lifted. Without their aura of legitimacy many of these blood sports would lose their draw and fade into oblivion. Perhaps Ali's greatest contribution was to have lived so long to show potential athletes in these blood sports what they will be like for many years after their fleeting career is over. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Never payed much attention too or new about head trauma in sports. Watched the movie Concussion, put the world of sports into another perspective. Ban baseball, football, any contact sport that causes head trauma. On another note, even if you wear a helmet you can get killed. Take this case: Kansas bat boy, 9, dies after being struck in head by practice swing |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
There are three ways to win a match in boxing: points, technical knock-out and knock-out. Knockout means that the boxer is hit by a blow to the head or body and is unable to continue boxing after the referee counted to 10. A knock-out is the same as a loss. No other sport has these kind of rules that evidently are promoting blows to your head. Ingemar "Ingo" Johansson was knocked down several times and describe the blow to the head as "cotton around the head"... His opponent and later friend Floyd Patterson died 11 May 2006 after suffering from dementia pugilistica. (as Ingo did) for nearly eight years. However Floyd's brother Raymond, also a boxer, is still alive and lives in Gothenburg Sweden:) http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ray_Patterson |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
No other sport has these kind of rules that evidently are promoting blows to your head.Because Boxing was not violent enough other sports such as MMA have recently sprung up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmRAiUPdRjk |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
No other sport has these kind of rules that evidently are promoting blows to your head.Because Boxing was not violent enough other sports such as MMA have recently sprung up. Mixed Martial Arts! It's not even a sport or an art. Perhaps in combat in wars but as an entertainment... I think that that type of "boxing" emerged when ordinary boxing had to adopt more safety rules for more then 20 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJf0LqJTsT8 PS. The only boxer I have "met" is Floyd Patterson in 1983. He walked in the streets in Stockholm together with his wife enjoying the summer weather and the views when we bumped in to each other. The reason they was here was that both Ingo and Floyd was participating in the Stockholm Marathon some days later. They was both healthy back then. |
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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
James here is a link to Parkinson's to explain how , what , and why (not that they actually know why ) http://www.parkinsons.org.au/what-is-parkinsons As for banning Boxing !!! what !!!! Ok maybe not ban it but make them where the head gear that they use in the Olympics at least that would prevent the worst of the injury's And then there is the argument that people know the risks and if they wish to take the risk then so be it . Big fan of Boxing ops I'm a bad person cause I like to watch 2 guys beat the crap outa each other :-) seriously I am a big fan of it But I don't like MMA I think that one goes way to far from what I have seen of it . It's akin to the old Gladiator sport of the Romans and way more dangerous than other contact sports . As for your Grid Iron game phhff that not a sport . Be real men and get rid of all that padding and the helmits and play a real Sport NRL (Rugby League) the game of real men ugg ugg as Tim the Tool man would say |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
play a real Sport NRL (Rugby League) Glen league is not bad but union is a much better game, it requires the thinking process. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
play a real Sport NRL (Rugby League) Maybe , it is also played here too but not as big a sport as NRL or AFL(Australian rules Foot ball) AFL is a cross between Gaelic football and soccer and not as much a contact sport as Rugby thou , for those that don't know what it is . It's played manly in the southern states of Victoria , South Australia and Western Australia Here's a link to AFL so people can get a better idea of how it's played http://www.afl.com.au/ and no I'm not a Mexican as we say here so I don't follow it that much (a Mexican because it's played south of the New South wales border in the southern states):-) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
play a real Sport NRL (Rugby League) Yes. It requires the thinking process. Rugby is not a sport that you aim to hit anothers head. But when it comes to boxing the thinking process that is needed become less after doing some rounds for some years. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Don't get me wrong betregar I've tried to watch Grid iron but all the stopages and Starting makes it a bit boring to watch and seems to go on and on and on maybe if it was more fluent I mite like it as it does seem to be a hard game just a bit on the boring side for a spectaor |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
no I'm not a Mexican as we say here so I don't follow it that much (a Mexican because it's played south of the New South wales border in the southern states):-) Which likely belongs in the Racism thread, just so people understand it isn't all a USA thing. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Yes Jan that is true but then if your any good you shouldn't get to many blows to the head . That's what made Ali so good he was able to flout like a butterfly and sting like a bee and miss most of the blows only remember him going down once . I'm not so shore thou the Boxing caused his Parkinson's Michael j .Fox didn't box and he has it so makes you wonder if it was the boxing or something else . I guess one day they will find a genetic reason for it . After all Huntington's gene wasn't found till 1993 even thou the disease was know for a long time before they found the genes that cause it . |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
no I'm not a Mexican as we say here so I don't follow it that much (a Mexican because it's played south of the New South wales border in the southern states):-) Say what a racist comment !!! All it means is south of the border :-) And doesn't have the connotations that it can have over your way :-) |
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