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The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
seems they running slower. Also i says it RT V1.0.4.0 support, but yet not implemented. Didn´t know where i can get the newest VKruntimes... |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
Nvidia has 364.47 with Vulkan released , sofar i can see, dont use it. Dropped cpu performance , against 356.45. Driver failures. Before 364.47 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4770344360 After: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4776908346 Only one sample, but got no more time, i must change the drivers version before my GT 640 gives up. With 356.45 , no issues. XD |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
Bad news: https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver The old drivers are gone, there only the WHQL drivers left. The WHQL drivers have a 25% loss in cpu time. At this time i got no trustable download source to tell. |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
sorry, no drivers to download at this point, they have been exchanged by the newest WHQL drivers. |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
https://vulkan.lunarg.com/signin A new Vulkan SDK V1.0.5.0 could be downloaded. Hove theres some performance gain. |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
http://drivers.softpedia.com/downloadTag/NVIDIA%20GeForce%20Vulkan%20356.45%20Beta Half trustable is that download location, have fun. |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
Ten days since WHQL drivers release, and they don´t recognize that there is a loss of 25% cpu time while cunshing, they don´t wana change it. Unbelievable. |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/03/14/new-intel-vulkan-beta-1540204404-graphics-driver-for-windows-78110-1540 Vulkan drivers for intel gpus 4th to 6th generation have been released, almost on 11 March 2016. http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/radeon-vulkan-beta.aspx There are the Radeon HD 7xxx cards and newer Vulkan drivers from AMD. Not to forget them. ;) |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
March 28th, and there are new drivers to test, i am short back... |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
So far as i can see, there is no gain on gpu AND cpu with the newest WHQL drivers yet, for this project, others are differend. Back to 356.45 i advice. |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
At next , i would test the lunarics apps plus the new WHQL drivers, BUT download servers are down, longer than one day !? |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
no gain, back to vanilla 356.45 drivers... |
The_Matrix Send message Joined: 17 Nov 03 Posts: 414 Credit: 5,827,850 RAC: 0 |
ha, my god, 8th April ,they released a newer drivers version, always testing, will in short be back.. I´am so sorry, the drivers development drifting away from opimizing for cruching, there must be other prioritys. NO GAIN on the newest drivers release under Windows. (Installed the Vulkan-Runtimes too). Before 356.45 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4844436284 Newest 361.91 + Runtimes http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4847550593 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4847542186 I don´t know what a have to tell about the results, there´s more testing needed. |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
I don't get it, what are you doing here? :? The Vulkan API has absolutely nothing to do with SETI crunching at all! Do you test the latency of these drivers? Well, then ok... Aloha, Uli |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I don't get it, what are you doing here? :? Exactly. Until we have a Vulkan app it is only testing the current CUDA/OpenCL portions of the driver. From what, little, I've read about Vulkan it may only have an advantage over OpenCL in terms of performance. Maybe it could lead to a single universal GPU app across all hardware vendors? SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Maybe it could lead to a single universal GPU app across all hardware vendors? Very doubtful. OpenCL already "could". In reality there are too many vendor-specific nuances to get speedy-enough common build. Common build possible... but un-optimized one. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I think our buddy Jason has been working towards that goal.... But, given the immense differences between the hardware and optimizations available, I think he has taken on a yeoman's task. And perhaps impossible to fully achieve. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Maybe it could lead to a single universal GPU app across all hardware vendors? I think this is best explained by http://www.xkcd.com SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Ulrich Metzner Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 |
I think this is best explained by http://www.xkcd.com *twothumbsup* xkcd is always good for a very good laugh! X) Aloha, Uli |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Don`t get me wrong, i think standards are good. OTOH a standard app would never be as fast as a specific app. Engineers of Vendors have different opinions how to build hardware. Not as bad in my point of view. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
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