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Message 1764696 - Posted: 13 Feb 2016, 22:17:48 UTC

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php
Associate Justice Antonin Scalia was found dead of apparent natural causes Saturday on a luxury resort in West Texas, federal officials said.

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Message 1764698 - Posted: 13 Feb 2016, 22:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 1764696.  

Very sad news. :-(

R.I.P. Antonin Scalia
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Message 1764760 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 2:56:29 UTC

Well its going to be interesting watching the republicans try to stop Obama appointing someone else.
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Message 1764801 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 5:58:53 UTC - in response to Message 1764760.  

Well its going to be interesting watching the republicans try to stop Obama appointing someone else.

Obama would do best to appoint a dead middle of the road man who does not have much baggage. Then when the tea tries to block it, they will end up looking like fools.
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Message 1764901 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 17:06:14 UTC - in response to Message 1764801.  

Well its going to be interesting watching the republicans try to stop Obama appointing someone else.

Obama would do best to appoint a dead middle of the road man who does not have much baggage. Then when the tea tries to block it, they will end up looking like fools.

They don't seemed to have cared about looking like fools up to this point. Why do you you think they will suddenly care now?
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Message 1764914 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 17:48:12 UTC - in response to Message 1764901.  

They don't seemed to have cared about looking like fools up to this point. Why do you you think they will suddenly care now?

They may not, or they may wake up that they are a minority and to get their chief fool Trump in and all their fools into congress they need to look a bit middle of the road. Election years are funny. Super radical primary, super center general election. Two faced politicians.

(Of course he may just do a recess appointment and tell them to go pound sand.)
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Message 1764943 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 19:00:57 UTC - in response to Message 1764915.  

Well its going to be interesting watching the republicans try to stop Obama appointing someone else.

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Try? So what?

Democrats have stopped many Republican Presidents Nominations to SCOTUS.

Nothing new, and well within the American Political Culture.

Will just be a lot of Yelling and Bluster, from The Left. Just as a lot of Yelling and Bluster from The Right, in the past.

It will probably 'harden' the positions of both sides in the upcoming election.

Thereby, canceling each other out.

They might have blocked nominations in the past, but the longest time before the new nomination so far has been about 4 months.
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Message 1765048 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 1:17:30 UTC - in response to Message 1765044.  

The voters will determine, in November, which side they believe is correct.
No they won't! Who has the most PAC money and the dirtiest scum-buckets advertising and marketing agency will.
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Message 1765050 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 1:19:08 UTC - in response to Message 1765048.  

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Message 1765080 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 3:41:50 UTC - in response to Message 1765050.  
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+1

+2.

Elitists.

Those presently controlling Western Media, Education, Political Structures, et al.

Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1765192 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 16:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 1765044.  
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They might have blocked nominations in the past, but the longest time before the new nomination so far has been about 4 months.

Well...

This may be a new record. To be debated by future historians.

All we will see is sound and fury, on both sides, the media, and social media, signifying nothing.

The voters will determine, in November, which side they believe is correct.

As it should be.

Washington Post has graph showing days it took to confirm or reject/withdraw the appointment, .
https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/time-spent-considering-supreme-court-nominees/1960/ 115 years worth all the way back to Theodore Roosevelt.
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Message 1765230 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 19:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 1765080.  

+1

+2.

Elitists.

Those presently controlling Western Media, Education, Political Structures, et al.

+3
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Message 1765285 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 23:05:44 UTC

In reading ArsTechnica's write-up of some of Justice Scalia's rulings, I find that I actually agree with his opinions on over half of them.
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Message 1765301 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 0:12:34 UTC - in response to Message 1765285.  

In reading ArsTechnica's write-up of some of Justice Scalia's rulings, I find that I actually agree with his opinions on over half of them.

Perhaps the result of some good cherry picking ...
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1765327 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 1:52:25 UTC - in response to Message 1765301.  

In reading ArsTechnica's write-up of some of Justice Scalia's rulings, I find that I actually agree with his opinions on over half of them.

Perhaps the result of some good cherry picking ...


No doubt. Still interesting to me nonetheless.
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Message 1765381 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 6:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 1765253.  
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To the Elitists, with their smug belief in their superiority [sic] over the people/voters:

You, not Trump nor Obama, are the problem.

Yes, it will be the voters who decide which side is correct.

As it must be.

Probably not, because a lot of voters either vote because of their beliefs, not facts, or because they like the look of the candidate. And because the votes are frequently very close, the final outcome could equally be decided by the toss of a coin.

Like who should have won Florida in 2000, unfortunately we will never know the answer, but there is probably a 50:50 chance the decision could have been wrong. Therefore it would have been quicker a hell of a lot cheaper to toss a coin. And nobody would have been any the wiser.

edit] If a replacement for Antonin Scalia isn't appointed soon who will regret the decisions, or lack of with a 4 - 4 vote, the most.

Contraception: Priests for Life v. Burwell
Voting rights: Wittman v. Personhuballah
Unions: Friedrichs v. California Teachers Association
Or a 4 - 3 vote in Fisher v. University of Texas, because Justice Elena Kagan has recused herself.
There's a lot more, and many could go against the Republicans.

And what happens if there is another decision to be made similar to the Florida 2000 vote, that in the end was decided by SCOTUS.
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Message 1765481 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 14:59:05 UTC - in response to Message 1765381.  

And what happens if there is another decision to be made similar to the Florida 2000 vote, that in the end was decided by SCOTUS.
Ah, yes. Trump suing Cruz!
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Message 1765543 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 23:01:58 UTC
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Always a difference between people regardless of opinion or attitude.

Nice man, this Justice.

Definitely having a sense or understanding about good values.

Therefore most likely able to make a difference or separation between good and bad things as well.

RIP.
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Message 1765606 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 3:40:09 UTC - in response to Message 1765381.  

And what happens if there is another decision to be made similar to the Florida 2000 vote, that in the end was decided by SCOTUS.


Uhhh... No.

SCOTUS did not decide the Florida 2000 vote... The Constitution did.

Article. II.

Section. 1.

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

The Constitution plainly gives the State Legislatures the power to appoint Electors. There is not even a Constitutional requirement that a General Election for President be held in any given State. The People do NOT elect the President. The State Legislatures do. Any General Election for President held in Any State is merely custom.

No court of law in the USA has ANY jurisdiction to override this power given by the Constitution DIRECTLY to the State Legislatures.

SCOTUS correctly stayed out of it.
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Message 1765632 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 5:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 1765606.  

The People do NOT elect the President. The State Legislatures do.
Except
(c) The Legislature shall provide for partisan elections for presidential candidates
where the constitution says the Legislature does not and the people do.
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