Well this is not new!

I reported this issue here for the devs but couldnt get any apropriate real guidance so i gave up.

http://lunatics.kwsn.info/index.php/topic,1763.msg59314.html#msg59314

This is to the developer board and i have the exact same issue as you TimeLord04. (Non approved members cannot reach this post though)

In my case i had a Intel 5775C with Iris Pro 6200 iGPU and i had issues with running Astropulse work but not MB7 work.

Tried without any parameters at all and reduced values! Nothing worked so i gave up. Now i've exchanged the 5775c to a 6700K instead so i dont need to tweak the rig as its processor is more mobile in its design that it is a desktop. (And wont be using its GPU until i hear that it seems to work again :) )

Very good IPC though due to the 128MB eDRAM on the chip.

Good luck all!

Thanks for the input, Vyper. I think the "built-in" Intel GPUs just plain SUCK!!!!! :-( When you are using Lunatics in addition to it, a GPU should ALWAYS crunch faster than a STOCK CPU. This was NOT the case for Farragut, (HD530), here... MOST disappointing.

I'll stick with EVGA for crunching on GPU. I have had EXCELLENT progress with Exeter, (GTX-760), and Prometheus, (GTX-750 TI SC), so EVGA is the GPU for me. :-)


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I'm also having issues with my HD Graphics 530 (Core i5-6500). Over on beta I had lots of inconclusives and even an invalid with MB v8. There is a new Beta driver available (15.40.18.4380) on the Intel website, but there is no mention of OpenCL changes/fixes in the release notes so I haven't tried it yet. For now I only use the integrated GPU for my display and I have my EVGA GTX-750 decicated for crunching. I hope that Intel solves these issues as it seems a waste to have high end processors with integrated GPU's that cannot be used for scientific purposes.

If there is anyone out there who is able to use the 530 GPU without inconclusives/errors, please post a message here.

Tom

HP just Upgraded the Video Driver for Farragut, (HD530), to 20.19.15.4360; OpenCL 2.0, now taking 4.8+ GB of System RAM from the total available of 12 GB.

So, I've chosen to Upgrade BOINC from 7.4.42 to 7.6.22, and installed Lunatics 0.44. I chose NOT to install support for AP Units; ONLY MB v8. I then told BOINC to Allow New Tasks, and Resume Project. So, tomorrow when the computer is booted and logged into, BOINC should have SETI DL new v8 Work.

Hopefully, v8 will work better on this system than the APs did... (I know, Apples and Oranges...) I desperately want to see if the HD530 will perform better than other systems crunching CPU. (This was my chief complaint... The HD530 was just pathetically slow... Maybe under 7.6.22 and Lunatics 0.44, and with the Upgraded Video Driver this thing might now work... Who knows...)


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According to Downloadcenter.intel.com there is a 4380 beta driver available. No mention of 4360 on the Intel site so it's probably a Microsoft Win10 special version.

The 4380 driver lists the following fixes

KEY ISSUES FIXED:

Just Cause 3 - game crash
Microsoft Enhanced Video Renderer - API crash
Project CARS - game crash
F1 2015 - game crash during built-in benchmark
Angry Birds - corruption after using “Maximize” icon in game window

Quake IV - corruption resuming from standby mode
Fallout 4 - game crash when game is loading
LEGO Minifigures Online - command list reset lock takes long time (4th & 5th Gen)
Wolfenstein The New Order - game crash

As you can see it's all game stuff, no mention of OpenCL so I wouldn't hold your breath on this one fixing anything, nor the 4360 that you've got.

I've raised a bug with Intel about their OpenCL not working properly (too many validation errors) along with another user eta over at Einstein. Intel told me it's the OEM responsibility, so they don't want to know about it. My tasks run fine, just fail to validate, but then I'm running Win7 x64 on my machines.

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According to Downloadcenter.intel.com there is a 4380 beta driver available. No mention of 4360 on the Intel site so it's probably a Microsoft Win10 special version.

The 4380 driver lists the following fixes

KEY ISSUES FIXED:

Just Cause 3 - game crash
Microsoft Enhanced Video Renderer - API crash
Project CARS - game crash
F1 2015 - game crash during built-in benchmark
Angry Birds - corruption after using “Maximize” icon in game window

Quake IV - corruption resuming from standby mode
Fallout 4 - game crash when game is loading
LEGO Minifigures Online - command list reset lock takes long time (4th & 5th Gen)
Wolfenstein The New Order - game crash

As you can see it's all game stuff, no mention of OpenCL so I wouldn't hold your breath on this one fixing anything, nor the 4360 that you've got.

I've raised a bug with Intel about their OpenCL not working properly (too many validation errors) along with another user eta over at Einstein. Intel told me it's the OEM responsibility, so they don't want to know about it. My tasks run fine, just fail to validate, but then I'm running Win7 x64 on my machines.

Yes, 20.19.15.4360; OpenCL 2.0 is for Win 10. Farragut, (HD530), is a Win 10 Pro x64 system by HP. It is an HP Envy Desktop System.

It's now been running MB v8 since 9 AM this morning - Pacific Time. I think that the Units are crunching OK; haven't checked results yet. Estimated times for each WU are currently 30 Minutes.


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OK - Looks like it's still playing the "Inconclusive" game with WUs...

Work Unit 2062109641

Farragut is Computer ID: 7066606 and the third send out has not happened, yet. :(


TL

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NOTE: However; at least the MB v8 units are NOT "Postponing" like the AP units were.


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This wu will be valid.
Just a few signals (best) above threshold probably.

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This wu will be valid.
Just a few signals (best) above threshold probably.

Thanks Mike. :-)

Looks like Farragut, (HD530), is processing these v8 Units between 40.5 to 40.75 minutes each. I hope that's good...


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You only had VHARs so far.

Mid range tasks will take longer.

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It certainly looks look the "Inconclusive" game again ...
Your host now has 8 (out of 8) inconclusives.

I hope that one of these days we get an Intel driver version that has better OpenCL support.

Tom

OK - Looks like it's still playing the "Inconclusive" game with WUs...

Work Unit 2062109641

Farragut is Computer ID: 7066606 and the third send out has not happened, yet. :(


TL

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NOTE: However; at least the MB v8 units are NOT "Postponing" like the AP units were.


TL

i3 6100 with HD530, Win 10 64, BOINC 7.6.22

MB 7/8: works with acceptable invalid rate, about 1 per day
AP: same issue with suspended tasks as described by others. Issue triggered after the 1st check point shall be loaded.

Driver: currently x.4352, same with 1 or 2 earlier versions (forgot which ones). Am going to try x.4380 soon.
Hardware: Asus Z170 or MSI Z170 mainboard, same issue with prior i7 6700

Collatz: works fine.
Einstein: ~50% invalids, very wrong results from reference WU.

I've been chasing this Einstein issue since September 2015 without any luck :/
(I'm the one MarkJ mentioned)

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Success! My 1st Astropulse crunched on a Skylake GPU. Changes since the last post:

- Intel GPU driver x.4380 (beta)
- installed the MS C++ 2012 runtimes, 32 and 64 bit (fixed Collatz errors)

The performance was about a factor of 10 better than a core of a Xeon E31225, basically a Sandy Bridge Core i5 at 3.1+ GHz. The yield was 219 cr/h, whereas for MB tasks I get about 150 cr/h (running 2 tasks simultaneously). The power consumption of the GPu and main memory was a bit less than running MB tasks, although this difference is practicaly negligible.

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With prior Threads about how slow these Intel GPUs are; I HIGHLY recommend NOT using them at all. Especially after these issues that I've gone through.

HI TL

I have a similar configuration as you. Core i5 with HD530 GPU, and I am experiencing the same problem with AP's. For me the AP can run anywhere from an hour or so up to over 2 hours before crashing out. But I find that when the AP pauses another GPU task starts and will run through uninterrupted before the AP can resume. And I have to agree that running AP's under these conditions is pointless, 4 out of 5 AP's all crashed and the 5th I aborted to save time.

But since the HD530, while slower than other GPU's such as nVidia and Radeon, is still a lot faster than running CPU only I think it is worth persevering with. Though most GPU tasks come up inconclusive and require extra validation, with about 5 to 10 % failing as invalid, the end result is a much higher productivity than not using it. But I am looking for a nice cheap nVidia card to pop in and tweak things a little bit.

Stephen

I would recommend to use OpenCL MB on iGPU instead.
I have lot of inconclusives/invalids with AstroPulse on my IvyBridge but very stable processing with MultiBeam on the same iGPU.

With prior Threads about how slow these Intel GPUs are; I HIGHLY recommend NOT using them at all. Especially after these issues that I've gone through.

I have about 80% of all GPU tasks on my i5/HD530 setup come back as inconclusive, and after they are compared to a 3rd host about 10% of those come back as invalid.

But, I am getting much faster crunching times from the GPU than from CPU alone so I am sticking with it for now.

Anyone have a cheap GTX750 TI for sale LOL

Stephen

Looks like Farragut, (HD530), is processing these v8 Units between 40.5 to 40.75 minutes each. I hope that's good...

For what it is worth that is faster than mine .... mine takes about 1 hour to 1.5 hours for WU

Stephen

I would recommend to use OpenCL MB on iGPU instead.
I have lot of inconclusives/invalids with AstroPulse on my IvyBridge but very stable processing with MultiBeam on the same iGPU.

It is on MB tasks that I have that "inconclusive" problem. AP's all crash out.

Stephen

With prior Threads about how slow these Intel GPUs are; I HIGHLY recommend NOT using them at all. Especially after these issues that I've gone through.

HI TL

I have a similar configuration as you. Core i5 with HD530 GPU, and I am experiencing the same problem with AP's. For me the AP can run anywhere from an hour or so up to over 2 hours before crashing out. But I find that when the AP pauses another GPU task starts and will run through uninterrupted before the AP can resume. And I have to agree that running AP's under these conditions is pointless, 4 out of 5 AP's all crashed and the 5th I aborted to save time.

But since the HD530, while slower than other GPU's such as nVidia and Radeon, is still a lot faster than running CPU only I think it is worth persevering with. Though most GPU tasks come up inconclusive and require extra validation, with about 5 to 10 % failing as invalid, the end result is a much higher productivity than not using it. But I am looking for a nice cheap nVidia card to pop in and tweak things a little bit.

Stephen

Well, I'm finding that with Lunatics 0.44 that v8 MBs are crunching faster than what I experienced with v7.

Mike was right, I started getting more mid range v8 Units on Farragut, (HD530), and the system is taking 1 Hour ++ to complete those Units.

I'm actually finding many CPU paired systems that are running faster than the HD530. More of them were with v7 MBs than v8; but, there are some v8s that I've been paired against CPU runners and they are faster than the HD530 GPU.

Like others here have mentioned, I HIGHLY recommend an EVGA GeForce GTX-750 TI SC GPU. REALLY AWESOME BANG FOR THE BUCK!!!!!

Good luck,


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2 more valid APs on HD530, no problems any more. Is anyone else seeing this? Was it the new driver or the MS C++ runtimes?

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2 more valid APs on HD530, no problems any more. Is anyone else seeing this? Was it the new driver or the MS C++ runtimes?

MrS

If the MS C++ 2012 runtimes were needed (but missing), I think the app would fail to start - crash immediately (I've had that with self-built BOINC clients).

I've seen Raistmer build with VS2008 and VS2010, but nothing newer than that. I don't think the Intel app will need 2012/13.