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As a separate but related matter, if I currently have no APs from Main, can I install Lunatics without finishing off the MB tasks in progress?

The app_config in my Main folder is just this:

<app_config>
   <app>
      <name>setiathome_v7</name>
      <gpu_versions>
          <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
          <cpu_usage>.04</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
    </app>
</app_config>

Do I just need to duplicate the body of that with astropulse instead of setiathome? EVERY occurrence of astropulse in my current app_info.xml has the count set to .5 .

Also, I seem to remember having just a little bit of customization going (there was a thread a while back where I tried to customize it more and it promptly started crashing). Is that controlled from app_info?

David,

Here is my app_config.xml file originally created by Joe Segur:


<app_config>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.5</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.50</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.04</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

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With my app_config.xml, (used both on Prometheus with the GTX-750 TI SC, and Exeter with the GTX-760), both of my machines will crunch two units at a time. Either 1 MB and 1 AP, or 2 AP, or 2 MB...


TL

Doesn't that affect what gets done on your CPU? That's the other thing I just remembered. Somewhere, I have a setting that limits the CPU to 7 tasks at a time to keep 1 core free for the GPU. I suppose that's a Boinc thing, though, not project specific...?

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David
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Doesn't that affect what gets done on your CPU? That's the other thing I just remembered. Somewhere, I have a setting that limits the CPU to 7 tasks at a time to keep 1 core free for the GPU. I suppose that's a Boinc thing, though, not project specific...?

I don't use CPU to crunch; so, no, no effect on my CPU; only 1 core of my CPU feeds the GPU on each system.


TL

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David,


Regarding Beta site

Couple of things. what cuda are you running currently on Seti?

I only ask as I don't know what the 440 usually runs

The app_config will be different in cuda for the 440 and the 630

As far as the OpenCl, I would just abort them. I saw the discussion going on as to what might be causing the problem. I would just not crunch them for now.

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As far as main, which computer is this app_config going into?


<app_config>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.20</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.20</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

Without running any CPU task this should allow for 2 work units each on the GPU in both machines

If you want to run CPU task on that 8 core machine, let me know I will modify this to put a <project_max_concurrent> in to allow the CPU to crunch as well.

I would not recommend any CPU task on your Dual core.

David,


Regarding Beta site

Couple of things. what cuda are you running currently on Seti?

I only ask as I don't know what the 440 usually runs

The app_config will be different in cuda for the 440 and the 630

As far as the OpenCl, I would just abort them. I saw the discussion going on as to what might be causing the problem. I would just not crunch them for now.

This entire discussion has been about my i7 with the 440. I do not run Beta on the 630.

The 440 runs cuda42 on Main. I don't remember anymore if that was what the server concluded was best before I started doing Lunatics, or if I did a bit of informal observation and picked that myself. On Beta, I just let it do what it wants, and it appears the server has settled on 50 being the best. <shrug>

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As far as main, which computer is this app_config going into?


<app_config>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.20</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.20</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

Without running any CPU task this should allow for 2 work units each on the GPU in both machines

If you want to run CPU task on that 8 core machine, let me know I will modify this to put a <project_max_concurrent> in to allow the CPU to crunch as well.

I would not recommend any CPU task on your Dual core.

Like I said above, this thread is entirely about the i7/440. (The box with the 630 does not crunch on the CPU because it has another function I consider more important.) I currently have the i7 crunching on 7 cores to keep 1 free for the GPU. This works fine for me and has for quite a while.

I downloaded the new Lunatics. I just want to know what I need to adjust while/after I install it to stay at the status quo, that being 7 cores of CPU and 2 at a time of anything from Main or Einstein on the GPU. (Actually, once I get the Beta problem straightened out, I wouldn't mind letting it do 2 at a time also, but first things first.)

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You might need to increase the CPU ration to 0.5 from the 0.2 I have listed, that way with 2 GPU task running, it will keep 1 core for the GPU and allow 7 on the CPU.

Otherwise it might try to run 8 CPU task.

If you have any problems let us know

You might need to increase the CPU ration to 0.5 from the 0.2 I have listed, that way with 2 GPU task running, it will keep 1 core for the GPU and allow 7 on the CPU.

Otherwise it might try to run 8 CPU task.

If you have any problems let us know

I'll give it a try.

Asking again, will tasks in progress have a problem with having the new Lunatics installed? There are currently 7 running on the CPU and 2 on the GPU, all MBs. I have no APs on board.

Thanks for all your help.

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David
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There shouldn't be any problem with the current work in progress.

Okay, it's been running with the new Lunatics for a few hours and everything seems fine so far. It's currently running a pair of MBs on the GPU, still saying 0.04 CPUs even with the app_config saying .5. Running 7 on the CPU too, just like it should.

The test will be if it downloads a new opencl from Beta. Just have to wait and see.

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David
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Okay, it's been running with the new Lunatics for a few hours and everything seems fine so far. It's currently running a pair of MBs on the GPU, still saying 0.04 CPUs even with the app_config saying .5. Running 7 on the CPU too, just like it should.

The test will be if it downloads a new opencl from Beta. Just have to wait and see.

The Units that were already DL'd and being worked on BEFORE Lunatics was installed will ALL still say .04 CPU; however, IF you had BOINC Reread the Config Files before Resuming tasks, then they are actually being crunched at .5... Especially if you are seeing that 2 GPU Units are crunching at the same time; then your new app_config.xml is working, and Lunatics, also, is working. Once you receive new Units in your cache, you will see the appropriate numbers. (Which I hope are .5 CPU and .5 GPU to yield 2 Units crunching at a time on the GPU...)


TL

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Okay, it's been running with the new Lunatics for a few hours and everything seems fine so far. It's currently running a pair of MBs on the GPU, still saying 0.04 CPUs even with the app_config saying .5. Running 7 on the CPU too, just like it should.

The test will be if it downloads a new opencl from Beta. Just have to wait and see.

The Units that were already DL'd and being worked on BEFORE Lunatics was installed will ALL still say .04 CPU; however, IF you had BOINC Reread the Config Files before Resuming tasks, then they are actually being crunched at .5... Especially if you are seeing that 2 GPU Units are crunching at the same time; then your new app_config.xml is working, and Lunatics, also, is working. Once you receive new Units in your cache, you will see the appropriate numbers. (Which I hope are .5 CPU and .5 GPU to yield 2 Units crunching at a time on the GPU...)


TL

It has caught up and is now crunching 2 at .2 CPUs and .5 GPUs, and 7 on the CPU. Just as I want.

On the Beta front, it finished the cudas it had and hasn't downloaded anything else. The Beta app_config reads

<app_config>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda42</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>1</ngpus>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda32</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>1</ngpus>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name>
<plan_class>cuda50</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
<ngpus>1</ngpus>
</app_version>
</app_config>

Is that causing it not to ask for CPU tasks?

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David
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Status update:

For some reason, it was refusing to ask Beta for work even after I suspended Main and Einstein. I disabled the app_config and then went back to the site and discovered that I had somehow unchecked CPU and all three kinds of GPU. I checked them all and temporarily bumped up the resource share, and it started asking. That's when Beta started saying no tasks available. I posted about it there and Eric did something. Then I got some CPUs and some cuda42s (odd, since it'd had 50s before). Anyway, at some point, it also downloaded some opencls for both MB and AP. Last I looked, it was running an AP opencl_nvidia_100, about half done with no problem.

I'll let you know when it gets to an MB opencl.

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David
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Well, actually, while I wasn't paying attention, it's done nearly 100 tasks in every configuration it's capable of, including a lot of opencls and some v8s. Looks like Claggy was right and updating my Lunatics apps for Main fixed my Beta problem.

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David
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