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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Yet another strange plane crash. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34697416 It is very unusual, for planes to just break up in mid-air. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34692132 |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
I'm thinking Putin should not have got involved in the war most of the victims are Russian so I think we all know what happened seeing as ISIS has already made a claim it did it . Terrorist attack a bomb or some sort of missile more likely a suicide bomber |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I'm thinking Putin should not have got involved in the war most of the victims are Russian so I think we all know what happened seeing as ISIS has already made a claim it did it . But the Russians are not targeting ISIS. Most of their attacks in Syria is on the Syrian rebels that are allies with US and NATO. PS. What a mess... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
But the Russians are not targeting ISIS. So ironic he hasn't bombed them so they get him first . So much for trying to be big hero more like a bloody idiot for getting involved . |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Im going to go with 'technical malfunction' until proven otherwise. First of all, the rebels in that area are not known the have advanced anti air weapons that can reach the height at which commercial airlines fly. Manpads don't have such a reach, so I doubt its them. Second, its a Russian airliner, even when they say they aren't deeply in debt and have followed all protocols, I don't trust them. Thirdly, even if they are speaking the truth, its happened before that an undetected technical malfunction caused the plane to crash. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Crash maybe but break apart in mid air !! Unlikely it's Boeing not a plane built in Russia and ISIS has already clamed responsibility . A suicide bomber for shore . We are talking Egypt here not L.A.X or Heathrow so crap security let a suicide bomber get through. Booom in mid air |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Crash maybe but break apart in mid air !! Unlikely it's Boeing not a plane built in Russia and ISIS has already clamed responsibility . A suicide bomber for shore . We are talking Egypt here not L.A.X or Heathrow so crap security let a suicide bomber get through. Booom in mid air Michel is being vigilant. If he hears more (credible) evidence that it was a terrorist act, he may come to believe it. I believe he also was not talking about the manufacture of the plane, but of its maintenance over several years. There have been reports here that crew that had repeatedly flown in the same craft had complained to their spouses about repeated technical/maintenance issues. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Lot's of speculations right now. Russia dont think it was a terror attack. But it rises questions of flight travelling and security in generally. The head of Russia's Federal Aviation Agency said it was premature to speculate on the cause of the crash. |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
That plane was 34 years old. Maybe too many pressuresation cycles and too little maintenance. Dave Nelson |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
not a boeing, an airbus Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
That plane was 34 years old. Maybe too many pressuresation cycles and too little maintenance. The aircraft that crashed was an 18-year-old Airbus A321-231, serial number 663. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268 On 1 November, Russia grounded Airbus A321 jets flown by Kogalymavia. Interfax said the Russian transport regulator, Rostransnadzor, had told Kogalymavia to stop flying its A321 aircraft until the causes of the crash were known. These reports were contradicted by Kogalymavia representative as saying that the airline had not received the order from Rostransnadzor. Most likely it's lack of maintenance that caused this. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
That plane was 34 years old. Maybe too many pressuresation cycles and too little maintenance. http://lessonslearned.faa.gov/ll_main.cfm?TabID=1&LLID=28 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
That plane was 34 years old. Maybe too many pressuresation cycles and too little maintenance. Lessons learned 60 years ago. Investigative testing, with concurrence from extensive examination of the Elba wreckage, revealed that the relatively squarish windows were creating stress concentrations much higher than anticipated. These stress concentrations fatigued the material around the window corners, which would quickly lead to a rupture of the fuselage. In this case something happened before the descent and the fuselage breaking up happened while doing it. The Russian airline Kogalymavia has blamed "external influence". I think it's poor maintenance. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19064 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Egypt plane crash: Black boxes 'show aircraft was not hit from outside' but terrorism not ruled out The 18-year-old plane was in excellent condition, according to Mr Smirnov, and was only halfway thorough its 120,000-hour lifespan. In 2001, the plane suffered a tail strike as a result of a botched landing, but was repaired. Since then, the plane has passed rigorous inspection. Perhaps not rigorous enough or some part of that repair wasn't up to the standards it should have been, or some other nearby area wasn't checked thoroughly for metal fatigue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243 Note at 4:12 the rapid ascent right before the event. http://blog.hub.fr24.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/7K9268.gif |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/satellite-detected-heat-flash-at-time-russian-plane-went-down/ Satellite detected heat flash at time Russian jetliner went down ST. PETERSBURG, Russia -- Mystery and confusion surrounded the final moments of a Russian jetliner that plummeted suddenly from high altitude to the Egyptian desert, killing all 224 people aboard. The airline Monday ruled out pilot error or a technical fault, but Russian aviation officials dismissed those comments as premature. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/satellite-detected-heat-flash-at-time-russian-plane-went-down/ Of course there was a heat flash. That is when it hit MH370! At least this theory isn't being trotted out to sell advertising .... |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
The Russian airliner that crashed in the Sinai Peninsula, killing 224 people, “may well have been brought down by an explosive device,†a spokesman for British Prime Minister David Cameron announced. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I wonder if Russia has sent some of these hybrid dogs to Sinai sniffing for explosive residues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1xT3bRup2U |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
U.S. intelligence suggests Russian plane crash likely caused by bomb planted by ISIS or its affiliate, U.S. |
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