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Message 1736061 - Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 22:23:51 UTC
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One of the items one will find by the study of the Platonic Dialogs and the Works of Aristotle is a linguistic paradigm which was not developed in history, but which is in fact mirrored in human biology; It is a Two-Element Metapysics. What do I mean? The mind manipulates virtual things as the body manipulates real things for survival. One can divide the life support systems which abstract directly from our environment between those which abstract the material of a thing and those that abstract the form of a thing. In language, all we can do is name these abstractions. This pattern is mirrored in the definition of a thing.

Definition: A thing is any material within limits, a form, or shape.

From this, both branches of reasoning are derived.

From this definition we abstract two fundamental methods of comparing for equality. One is called Arithmetic equality, expressed in logic as A = B. This is used for establishing a one-to-one correspondence used in naming conventions. The second form of equality is the equality language is based on. It is called either, Proportional equality, Geometric equality, or again, Metaphor. It is expressed in logic as; As A is to B, so too is C to D. For the foundation of language, as things are in our environment so too are they rendered into language.

And so, when testing for linguistic functionality, one uses metaphor. Through metaphor one can test the indexing functionality of a mind. Through metaphor, one can test what are called mathematical functions. The truth is, logic, be it common grammar or mathematics, is logic. If I am given an unknown word for a subject, and then I equate that word to a group of predicates, what word does that unknown become a synonym for?

The word, God is a historically significant example in the Judeo-Christian Scripture. If one compare the definition of a thing to John 1:1, one will find, if one forgo the mysticism, that John defined God as the first word in a definition through the truth of its two predicates, or again, by Mosaic Law, God is defined as the linguistic functionality of a developed mind which functions through both branches of reasoning. Logics, which are indexing systems, and analogic, the content which is indexed.
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Message 1736831 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 2:12:26 UTC

yawn .....
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
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Message 1736833 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 2:34:31 UTC

Umm can someone EXPLAIN what he just said and how that has anything to do with Equality for those of us with only a high school education .

Man that went way over my head Yep Zombu2 YAWN!!!

guess what ppl I'M back crunching so run for the hills the mad ozzie is back aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Message 1737006 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 1736833.  

Umm can someone EXPLAIN what he just said and how that has anything to do with Equality for those of us with only a high school education .

Man that went way over my head Yep Zombu2 YAWN!!!

guess what ppl I'M back crunching so run for the hills the mad ozzie is back aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



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Message 1737007 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 1736833.  

Hi Glenn, looking good!


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Message 1737008 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:18:25 UTC - in response to Message 1736831.  

yawn .....



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Message 1737013 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 1736061.  
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Take an example of why there is such a thing as politics; an elementary class room.

Most of the students are reading Spot, Dick, and Jane. One student is reading The Grapes of Wrath.

Now, everyone is content to do their own reading. There is no conflict unless, some individuals question why it is that that they are reading the one, while others are reading the other. Then the conflict is actually based on a child's belief that standards of behavior are determined by an alpha animal.

In such an environment, of alpha animal hierarchy there are policemen which are dedicated to keeping the animal kingdom in a certain pecking order,

However, that poor student reading Steinbeck, firmly grasps onto the concept of Nomocracy, that human behavior is determined by the principles of language functionally resident in a mind. His only policeman is the word.
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Message 1737014 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:37:56 UTC

So politics happens when people
can't mind their own business?


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Message 1737015 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 1737014.  

Exactly, and that starts with not even knowing what the business of a mind is.
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Message 1737016 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:42:14 UTC - in response to Message 1737015.  

business of a mind


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Message 1737019 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 1737016.  

The greatest minds in politics are those who actually know what the function of a mind is. Stated by Socrates, exampled by Plato, and demonstrated by the Judeo-Christian Scripture, Judgment,

Put into a puzzle for man to figure out, and determine if he does know judgment,

"To regulate behavior so as to turn the past into the future and to bring a future to pass."

Or again, in more metaphorical terms;

The testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy.

In the laboratory, with certain givens produce a specific result. They all mean, one and the same thing.
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Message 1737020 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:48:56 UTC

certain givens


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Message 1737022 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 21:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 1737020.  
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Or again, equality itself, as a function of mind, also determines pattern recognition; which again determines levels of intelligence.

The psychology is determined by the principles of language functionally resident in a mind. Therefore, as was pointed out by great minds, education of a population, which is not the same thing as indoctrination, is the first political goal of a sapient species.

Education is always aimed at linguistic functionality. This is not supported today. Linguistic functionality is not being illiterate in a dozen languages, but the ability of a mind to abstract concepts from the environment, or as Plato put it, the ability to see the similar idea in many examples, pattern recognition.

This is one reason I am fascinated with the Judeo-Christian Scripture. It uses pattern recognition to test the reader. It will say one thing to look bad and then it will say the same thing, the same concept, to look good. It does this from cover to cover, and it is done deliberately as it is always referencing the same basic elements. Fascinating. It is even stated plainly what one must do to read it, judge not by appearance but by righteous judgment.

It is the same method used in I.Q. testing.
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Message 1737031 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 22:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 1730760.  
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Not until it is recognized that the mind has a biologically determined job to perform.

Every life support system of the body has a healthy diet and a healthy product. When that is not recognized for the mind, you have what is called at best, a stupid society, which is factually a dysfunctional society.

You treat the mind differently than what it is, you don't get the right product.

There will always be the insane, but in our current status, we are actually creating dysfunctional people.

The mind learns by example. When you create a technological society which removes craft learning from the population, you are decreasing their learning environment and increasing psychological instability.
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Message 1737042 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 23:17:20 UTC - in response to Message 1737022.  

Or again, equality itself, as a function of mind, also determines pattern recognition; which again determines levels of intelligence.

The psychology is determined by the principles of language functionally resident in a mind. Therefore, as was pointed out by great minds, education of a population, which is not the same thing as indoctrination, is the first political goal of a sapient species.

Education is always aimed at linguistic functionality. This is not supported today. Linguistic functionality is not being illiterate in a dozen languages, but the ability of a mind to abstract concepts from the environment, or as Plato put it, the ability to see the similar idea in many examples, pattern recognition.

This is one reason I am fascinated with the Judeo-Christian Scripture. It uses pattern recognition to test the reader. It will say one thing to look bad and then it will say the same thing, the same concept, to look good. It does this from cover to cover, and it is done deliberately as it is always referencing the same basic elements. Fascinating. It is even stated plainly what one must do to read it, judge not by appearance but by righteous judgment.

It is the same method used in I.Q. testing.

Thanks, i do love a fine word salad on a sunday evening, and this is one of the finest I've seen on these boards.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1737043 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 23:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 1737042.  

bobby, it is obvious that you get it.
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Message 1737044 - Posted: 25 Oct 2015, 23:30:49 UTC

Wow, Bobby you are a genius....


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Message 1737061 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 0:55:13 UTC - in response to Message 1737031.  

Not until it is recognized that the mind has a biologically determined job to perform.

Every life support system of the body has a healthy diet and a healthy product. When that is not recognized for the mind, you have what is called at best, a stupid society, which is factually a dysfunctional society.

You treat the mind differently than what it is, you don't get the right product.

There will always be the insane, but in our current status, we are actually creating dysfunctional people.

The mind learns by example. When you create a technological society which removes craft learning from the population, you are decreasing their learning environment and increasing psychological instability.



This post does not belong here. It got here as an act of moderator censorship. Other posts above are acts of social intolerance.

Although a board needs moderators, it does not nether either of the above.
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Message 1737063 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 1:00:01 UTC

Then please demonstrate to us how it does not fit in with the things you are discussing here, while it does fit in to the context of wherever the post was before. Your move.
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Message 1737064 - Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 1:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 1737063.  
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Then please demonstrate to us how it does not fit in with the things you are discussing here, while it does fit in to the context of wherever the post was before. Your move.



That is clever, because I have one standard by which I answer questions, means I cannot answer questions in accordance with that standard.

You must be a carpenter who never built a thing.

There is one standard for human behavior, and that resolves to mental processing which is wholly linguistic, both branches logic and analogic.

You may skirt issues by not recognizing it, but it is a fact.

And furthermore, how is it you demand of me, what you do not demand either of yourself or others?
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