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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Much of the problems in the world right now is fundamentalism. Migration, War, Racism and other. Perhaps even climat changes. http://www.ted.com/talks/karima_bennoune_the_side_of_terrorism_that_doesn_t_make_headlines |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition. I believe there is good reason to look on it as a mental disease. Since there are many educated intelligent people who are religious believers there must be other factors involved. I think selectivity is one. I have"I think" coined a term for it. The SWI syndrome for "Selective Willful Ignorance". Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition. I believe there is good reason to look on it as a mental disease. Since there are many educated intelligent people who are religious believers there must be other factors involved. I think selectivity is one. I have"I think" coined a term for it. The SWI syndrome for "Selective Willful Ignorance". Religion? This is a thread about politics! |
Dave(The Admiral)Nelson Send message Joined: 4 Jun 99 Posts: 415 Credit: 22,293,483 RAC: 1 |
There's a difference? Dave Nelson |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
There's a difference? Yes. We in the western world lives in secular countries. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition. I believe there is good reason to look on it as a mental disease. Since there are many educated intelligent people who are religious believers there must be other factors involved. I think selectivity is one. I have"I think" coined a term for it. The SWI syndrome for "Selective Willful Ignorance". Well you don't come short on ignorance and superstition either. How do I figure? Well for one, because you are ready to shove all the blame for a particular problem on religion when you have absolutely no proof that religion actually causes the problem (indeed, studies are quite clear on the fact that extremism and religion aren't closely linked at all, although a quick check in your history book would have revealed that as well). But no, instead you barge in here and blame religion because that suits your personal convictions. The very definition of willfully ignorant. As for superstitious, you are apparently ready to believe that the idea of a God is somehow capable to warp peoples minds and turn them murderous barbarians without any kind of other motivators required. Your idea about the power of religion borders the paranoid and dare I say, superstitious. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The vast majority of the English speaking world on seeing the word fundamentalism thinks of religion absent some qualifier such as baseball. The vast majority of the English speaking world upon seeing the word religion thinks only of organized religion(s). There is religion and there is ORGANIZED religion. "Fundamentalism" does not exist without organization. Fundamentalism is not necessarily extremism. Extremism is not necessarily fundamental. However some try and conflate them for profit. End of English lesson for non-English speakers. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The vast majority of the English speaking world on seeing the word fundamentalism thinks of religion absent some qualifier such as baseball. Start of English lesson for English readers. Fundamentalism 1. Belief in the infallibility of a doctrine, see truth. 2. A Christian Protestant orientation that emphasizes biblical inerrancy in all kinds of questions. See Christian fundamentalism. 3. Direction in Islam that is often used synonymously with Islamism, the desire to create an Islamic state. They want to create a society for religious principles (ie after the Shari'a). See Muslim fundamentalism. 4. Invective too rigid and uncompromising position in general, see literalism. Fundamentalism is not only a religious term. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Nowhere in Dave's post did i see mention of extremism, or murderous barbarisms, but some-how you managed to drag them into your post. He did not, but he responded directly to a post where the entire premise is that fundamentalism is the cause of war and violence. Which he then proceeded to blame entirely on religion as a whole ("Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition"). I argue against the premise that religion, even in a fundamentalist form, is a cause for conflict. I will also argue against any attempts to equalize religion with fundamentalism or the notion that religion causes fundamentalism. |
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