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Message 1725051 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 14:25:31 UTC

Much of the problems in the world right now is fundamentalism.
Migration, War, Racism and other.
Perhaps even climat changes.

http://www.ted.com/talks/karima_bennoune_the_side_of_terrorism_that_doesn_t_make_headlines
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Message 1725068 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 15:04:59 UTC

Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition. I believe there is good reason to look on it as a mental disease. Since there are many educated intelligent people who are religious believers there must be other factors involved. I think selectivity is one. I have"I think" coined a term for it. The SWI syndrome for "Selective Willful Ignorance".
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Message 1725074 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 15:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 1725068.  

Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition. I believe there is good reason to look on it as a mental disease. Since there are many educated intelligent people who are religious believers there must be other factors involved. I think selectivity is one. I have"I think" coined a term for it. The SWI syndrome for "Selective Willful Ignorance".

Religion?
This is a thread about politics!
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Message 1725079 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 15:18:04 UTC - in response to Message 1725074.  

There's a difference?
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Message 1725082 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 15:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 1725079.  

There's a difference?

Yes. We in the western world lives in secular countries.
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Message 1725131 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 17:44:07 UTC - in response to Message 1725068.  

Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition. I believe there is good reason to look on it as a mental disease. Since there are many educated intelligent people who are religious believers there must be other factors involved. I think selectivity is one. I have"I think" coined a term for it. The SWI syndrome for "Selective Willful Ignorance".

Well you don't come short on ignorance and superstition either.

How do I figure? Well for one, because you are ready to shove all the blame for a particular problem on religion when you have absolutely no proof that religion actually causes the problem (indeed, studies are quite clear on the fact that extremism and religion aren't closely linked at all, although a quick check in your history book would have revealed that as well). But no, instead you barge in here and blame religion because that suits your personal convictions. The very definition of willfully ignorant. As for superstitious, you are apparently ready to believe that the idea of a God is somehow capable to warp peoples minds and turn them murderous barbarians without any kind of other motivators required. Your idea about the power of religion borders the paranoid and dare I say, superstitious.
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Message 1725174 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 20:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1725131.  

The vast majority of the English speaking world on seeing the word fundamentalism thinks of religion absent some qualifier such as baseball.

The vast majority of the English speaking world upon seeing the word religion thinks only of organized religion(s).

There is religion and there is ORGANIZED religion. "Fundamentalism" does not exist without organization.

Fundamentalism is not necessarily extremism. Extremism is not necessarily fundamental. However some try and conflate them for profit.

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Message 1725196 - Posted: 12 Sep 2015, 21:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 1725174.  

The vast majority of the English speaking world on seeing the word fundamentalism thinks of religion absent some qualifier such as baseball.
The vast majority of the English speaking world upon seeing the word religion thinks only of organized religion(s).
There is religion and there is ORGANIZED religion. "Fundamentalism" does not exist without organization.
Fundamentalism is not necessarily extremism. Extremism is not necessarily fundamental. However some try and conflate them for profit.
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Fundamentalism
1. Belief in the infallibility of a doctrine, see truth.
2. A Christian Protestant orientation that emphasizes biblical inerrancy in all kinds of questions. See Christian fundamentalism.
3. Direction in Islam that is often used synonymously with Islamism, the desire to create an Islamic state. They want to create a society for religious principles (ie after the Shari'a). See Muslim fundamentalism.
4. Invective too rigid and uncompromising position in general, see literalism.

Fundamentalism is not only a religious term.
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Message 1725315 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 8:54:42 UTC - in response to Message 1725199.  

Nowhere in Dave's post did i see mention of extremism, or murderous barbarisms, but some-how you managed to drag them into your post.
Fundamentalism is usually related to religion, though not always, and in my books, a fundamentalist interpretation of religious doctrine is most often a sign of Intellectual laziness/incompetence.

He did not, but he responded directly to a post where the entire premise is that fundamentalism is the cause of war and violence. Which he then proceeded to blame entirely on religion as a whole ("Lets call it what it is, religion, which is ignorance+superstition").

I argue against the premise that religion, even in a fundamentalist form, is a cause for conflict. I will also argue against any attempts to equalize religion with fundamentalism or the notion that religion causes fundamentalism.
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