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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified. I suspect the definition of secular eludes. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
You guys/gals have no clue. You continue to demonstrate your ignorance. That is not an attack. It is a fact. That you view it as an attack is sad. I guess I will have to help you out, "rookie investigator". http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39810&postid=577700 "Sarge" wrote: "BillHyland" wrote:"Sarge" wrote: I say with a high degree of confidence that I more than other posting here now or ever have done more to get people to show respect to those posting here with religious beliefs. Not just Muslims, as this post from 2007 shows (just the one I found quickest), but all. If you would take the time to read others in that thread and the ones that preceded it in a series, you will learn a lot, "rookie investigator". And perhaps you will see "secular attacks", "secular ideological believers", "obsession", "your belief in your superiority" and other lines you spout for the bull crap claptrap they really are. You haven't read the clues that have been dropped you. Do you have the intellectual honesty to follow the link, read that post, others in that thread and preceding threads to back to about March 2006? (If I were you, asking me that question, you'd end with "I doubt you will.") And you still need to respond in the Racism thread. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Here's a really good one. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32479&postid=435477 "Sarge" wrote: Now that I am home, I will post one more thing. Hopefully, I can get a good night's sleep so I can work hard tomorrow and complete one big task on which I have been working. Secular attack my patootie. |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6653 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? That's a good question. i can say that when I do respond to these threads, I try to include factual information, and not just this is wrong or this is right. What I would like to do, if I ever get the time, is compile the historical evidence of what I have learned, and post it. I do not even want to start it, because it will take me a few weeks to compile all the information from the various sources, and make sure those sources are referenced. One of the things that I find confusing about religion, is that few have been taught the actual history. What I find is a series of mis-quotes, and otherwise plain wrong information. When it is a science thread, many of us work together to correct mistakes. I have been corrected more than once, and I will acknowledge that, even posting a fresh link stating that I was wrong. The history of Christianity, is actually fascinating, and has very little to do with modern beliefs. Anyway, perhaps someday I will have enough time to compile everything. For now, I need to get back to work. :D Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? Clyde attacks because he thinks he knows what people's points of view are. He does not realize many of us have come here to here each other out, learn from each other and perhaps improve our own arguments or finally cast aside our old beliefs. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? I would like to beg to differ on the "it is [..] obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject" part. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, and now identify as Atheist. This means I've had my opinions change at least once in my own life, and they continue to evolve as I learn more about the world around me. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Here's a really good one. Please note: I said it is really good one, not too say whether it was a particularly deep thought or not (I will leave that up to the readers). Rather, it demonstrates Clyde does not understand where the questions (as opposed to attacks) have come from. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? But ... but ... isn't that impossible?! Aren't 99% of us here "ideologues", unchanging and dogmatic in our following of an ideology? ;) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? Of course we are. If we weren't the sun would rise in the west. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? Yes, and we attack anything that doesn't fit our secular, religious, belief system(s) too. /s :P |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? Yeah, "asking a question" is now defined as "an attack". :) Gary, if Australia is North in some ideology (see "Foundation" by Asimov), then yes, the sun rises in the west. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why were the recent threads on religion, especially Christianity, initiated? It is obvious that everyone has deep rooted opinions and beliefs on the subject and it is also obvious that no one is going to change anyone's mind on the subject. Instead most everyone gets their dander up and starts attacking anyone with a different point of view. Eventually it gets so hostile that the mods end up pulling the plug. So, what's the point? No that direction isn't West. It isn't East either. It is Dusk, and it sets in the Dawn. So your directions are North, Dusk, Cross and Dawn, it that order. :) |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I think its time some people in this thread turned the other cheek. Reality Internet Personality |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I think its time some people in this thread turned the other cheek. OK. Clyde, please slap me some more with your claims that I don't discuss issues. :) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76199&postid=1725563 |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I think its time some people in this thread turned the other cheek. Let he without sin, cast the first stone. Reality Internet Personality |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
People play nice The Question was asked ,Jesus ! . the poster has said that he knows of 4 Jesus's in the gospels . Whom & what gospels are you talking about ? I know of 2 that are significant ... Religon threads tend to get over the top when people that are too religous ask questions but don't like the answers people give back . So Lesson is don't ask the question....... |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20326 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
People play nice That sounds good advice for following a religion: Do not ask questions, just follow the faith to have faith and believe. All a form of self-hypnosis?... All in our own world as wrought in the image of man (and women), Martin ;-) See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be). Thats very true. The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics". Nothing more. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be). plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there |
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