Why don't we have a religion forum?

I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a character of myth and folklore. I believe that there are at least 4 different Jesuses described in the gospels.

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Dave Nelson

Might want to ask the Mods. You can email them at seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu

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Why don't we have a religion forum?

I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a character of myth and folklore. I believe that there are at least 4 different Jesuses described in the gospels.

Forum or thread? Forums are the exclusive domain of the project admins as you need root access to create one. Thread, well you created this one.

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Apparently the same old man, therefore the same old (or good answers).

Perhaps I should ask about the future rather than the past.

A chimpanzee is supposed to be more developed than a crocodile.

Who supposedly came first of this creatures?

Are humans only one step on this ladder of evolution.

Is technology alone supposed to be able to speaking on behalf of ourselves, including our soul, or perhaps our mind?

Guess what. I am having a thread on my own here, in the Seti@home cafe.

Not because of this or that, only because that the answers still to be found are not yet known.

https://www.facebook.com/philippa.thomas.9674?fref=ts

Eh, out of there.

Said that before.

Two things we know for certain about Jesus Christ, if he existed:

1. He wasn't called Jesus

2. He wasn't called Christ

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Why don't we have a religion forum?

I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a character of myth and folklore. I believe that there are at least 4 different Jesuses described in the gospels.

I asked myself the same question a while ago about a philosophy forum.
Seti@Home is a project that practices exact sciences. I think it is better to remain in the field we are familiar with as much as possible. However, as Gary stated, everyone is free to start a topic in the forum of their choice.

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Just lump the religious stuff with the politics stuff. The two are often related and it contains all the more controversial topics in one forum, which makes the job of the mods also a lot easier.

There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified.

Do you even read more than a few words of anyone else's posts anymore?

Was the Josephus passage a forgery?

Chris;

I agree with you almost entirely in principle but disagree in some details. For example, the following statement. "There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified".
There is in fact a great deal of doubt. There have been hundreds of books over hundreds of years written on the subject. I have read a very small number of them, including the Bible which I have read multiple times. This by no means qualifies me as a scholar.
Are you aware that the gospels are not the earliest writings in the new testament? The genuine Pauline letter are. They are not all considered genuine. They precede the book of Mark, the earliest gospel, by at least 10 years.
Paul claimed no knowledge of a Jesus of recent history. He knew nothing of the nativity, Joseph, Mary, or the star of Bethlehem. His Jesus was a spiritual entity.
I highly recommend the books of Professor G.A.Wells, a man well qualified, among many others, to tell the story.

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Dave Nelson

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I believe that Jesus of Nazareth was a character of myth and folklore. I believe that there are at least 4 different Jesuses described in the gospels.

There is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified...

Do you not mean someone who of some name who was an Essenes?

("Nazareth" is/was not the place modern religious people assume... And Nazarene/Essenene are all too similar sounding... See Qumran... And was the monastery there called "The Wilderness"?...)


Keep searchin',
Martin

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Do you not mean someone who of some name who was an Essenes?

The Dead Scrolls which predate Christ by maybe 150 years talk about a 'Law Giver" who conducts many of the "miracles" and events depicted in the New Testament which were attributed to Jesus in the Bible. The books of the Bible were written many years after the death of the alleged Jesus.

There may be some old Roman Tax records which record the existence of Jesus. There was no Nazareth though back in those days--There was Judea however.

Most likely retold myths, fairy tales and folklore.

Is science best being carried out by means of having a particular or specific inclination when it comes to a subject?

Is the validity of a subject given by means of the way you are supposed to be approaching any such things?

Please read about Jesus from Nazareth by looking in the Bible and not by means of using the Wikipedia.

Why not compare with the Pyramids of Egypt. These huge objects of sand and stone were built almost as long before the birth of Jesus since the time of his death.

To some people, the existence of the Pyramids could well be associated with the subject of reincarnation. This subject is not necessarily about Christianity, but rather a possible way of approaching the divine by means of its Gods based on either knowledge, or possible belief.

Jesus was supposed to be able to carry out miracles by means of healing sick people, including one special decease which even today is being regarded as a menace.

The story of Jesus being accompanied by 12 disciples is in my opinion putting a somewhat damp hand on the concept of the whole story. The Bible is supposed to be both the Old as well as the New Testament and we also may be able to find the Book of Revelation being included in the Bible.

Even though one of these twelve became a traitor, at least when it comes to it as being viewed from any belief of Christianity, some parts of this story could better be seen by looking at how the Roman Empire was able to stretch the whole way to what today is regarded as being Israel.

Science could well be used as a tool in order to debunk certain things. If you for some reason are able to ridicule what is supposed to be science, it possibly may not be such a thing at all.

But debunking or even ridiculing a given subject should not necessarily been carried out or done irresponsibly either. There may be times when doing such a thing may throw otherwise valid science away, so why not try avoiding doing such a thing.

In my opinion the Bible we read was skillfully crafted to tell the story church leaders wanted the people to hear. Things were left out and other things were fabricated. But when the Bible is challenged all the die hard faithful will say is that it is the inspired word of God, not to be disputed.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Right now looking up Bible in the Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

Scroll down to the section "Christian Bibles" in the first of these links.

There you will find an example of a relic which may be found in churches.

A similar relic is being visible at the top of the second link, about Jesus.

Religion alone is not giving any explanation for objects which are being relating to the subject of science. The same thing could possibly be said the opposite way around.

Are you supposed to be ridiculing the notion or concept of wormholes from a scientific point of view, only because you are unable to prove their possible existence in space?

Why not rather try ridiculing some of the material being found in the Bible instead.

Particle physics is trying to explain the notion of everything, including our presence here on earth. Cosmology on the other hand is about being able to understand the universe we are part of. These two worlds are slightly different when it comes to their physical properties and therefore needs slightly different approaches when it comes to approach.

Should you be able to acknowledge the existence of wormholes in space only because a certain particle should possibly be found?

If so, then you are supposed to be doing so by means of carrying out science on such a thing and not necessarily by means of any possible belief you could be having about the same subject.

I made a couple of posts here about religion and the possible existence of God because I did so in the context of possibly being able to carry out any science on the subject.

Does my inclination about the whole subject come from the approach I possibly could be having about the subject, or is it rather about a general knowledge I could be having as well?

In the end a subject becomes validated by means of not being ridiculed.

I believe this post is a spoof.

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Dave Nelson

This is Politics!
Has nothing to do with Relegioning.
Jesus ran against Caiaphas for the position of High Priest and was assassinated.
Caiaphas won, the rest is his story.

Exactly!

Politics (from Greek: πολιτικός politikos, definition "of, for, or relating to citizens") is the practice and theory of influencing other people. More narrowly, it refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance — organized control over a human community, particularly a state. Furthermore, politics is the study or practice of the distribution of power and resources within a given community (a usually hierarchically organized population) as well as the interrelationship(s) between communities.

A variety of methods are employed in politics, which include promoting or forcing one's own political views among people, negotiation with other political subjects, making laws, and exercising force, including warfare against adversaries. Politics is exercised on a wide range of social levels, from clans and tribes of traditional societies, through modern local governments, companies and institutions up to sovereign states, to the international level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics

A company is an association or collection of individuals, whether natural persons, legal persons, or a mixture of both. Company members share a common purpose and unite in order to focus their various talents and organize their collectively available skills or resources to achieve specific, declared goals. Companies take various forms such as:

Voluntary associations which may include nonprofit organization
A group of soldiers
Business entities with an aim of gaining a profit
Financial entities and banks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company

Politics is the theory and practice of influencing other people. In other words, it is the way that groups of people interact both among themselves and individually and as a group with other individuals and groups.

One way that groups of people interact is religion. Yes, politics INCLUDES religion.

This is Politics!
Has nothing to do with Relegioning.
Jesus ran against Caiaphas for the position of High Priest and was assassinated.
Caiaphas won, the rest is his story.

Exactly!

Politics (from Greek: πολιτικός politikos, definition "of, for, or relating to citizens") is the practice and theory of influencing other people. More narrowly, it refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance — organized control over a human community, particularly a state. Furthermore, politics is the study or practice of the distribution of power and resources within a given community (a usually hierarchically organized population) as well as the interrelationship(s) between communities.

A variety of methods are employed in politics, which include promoting or forcing one's own political views among people, negotiation with other political subjects, making laws, and exercising force, including warfare against adversaries. Politics is exercised on a wide range of social levels, from clans and tribes of traditional societies, through modern local governments, companies and institutions up to sovereign states, to the international level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics

A company is an association or collection of individuals, whether natural persons, legal persons, or a mixture of both. Company members share a common purpose and unite in order to focus their various talents and organize their collectively available skills or resources to achieve specific, declared goals. Companies take various forms such as:

Voluntary associations which may include nonprofit organization
A group of soldiers
Business entities with an aim of gaining a profit
Financial entities and banks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company

Politics is the theory and practice of influencing other people. In other words, it is the way that groups of people interact both among themselves and individually and as a group with other individuals and groups.

One way that groups of people interact is religion. Yes, politics INCLUDES religion.

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Sunday and the curch bell are ringing here right now.
George Bush II comes to mind.
The State and the church should be separated by law.
Clergy is bad for religion.
“My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.”
“There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.”

How can a collection of atoms have moral and even wonder why they exist?

Speaking of "The Shrub" What ever happened to Billy Graham?

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Dave Nelson

Speaking of "The Shrub" What ever happened to Billy Graham?

He is still living and is now 96 years old!
Because of deteriorating health has Graham more or less receded during the 2000s. The leadership of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, he handed over to his son Franklin Graham.