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Message 1708063 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 14:32:37 UTC

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Message 1714244 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 5:03:03 UTC

http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20150816/report-no-relationship-between-teacher-pay-student-results
A new report looking at the salaries of the 75 largest school districts in California alleges there is no correlation between teacher compensation and higher student test scores.

Transparent California posted the report on its website’s blog on Wednesday morning. The report looks at teacher salaries in the state’s 75 largest school districts and compares them to the district’s 2013 Academic Performance Index scores, which are based on a combination of scores on various standardized tests. (That’s the last year that API scores are available, as the state has overhauled its standardized testing system to match up with the new Common Core State Standards.) API scores range from 200 to 1,000, with a target of 800 for all schools.

“The average full-time teacher compensation was $94,796 and the average API score was 795,” the report reads in part. “Compensation is defined as wages plus the employer-cost of health and retirement benefits. The average total employee cost per enrolled student was $6,946 and was negatively correlated against the district’s API scores.”

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Message 1714250 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 5:07:29 UTC - in response to Message 1714244.  

http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20150816/report-no-relationship-between-teacher-pay-student-results
A new report looking at the salaries of the 75 largest school districts in California alleges there is no correlation between teacher compensation and higher student test scores.

Transparent California posted the report on its website’s blog on Wednesday morning. The report looks at teacher salaries in the state’s 75 largest school districts and compares them to the district’s 2013 Academic Performance Index scores, which are based on a combination of scores on various standardized tests. (That’s the last year that API scores are available, as the state has overhauled its standardized testing system to match up with the new Common Core State Standards.) API scores range from 200 to 1,000, with a target of 800 for all schools.

“The average full-time teacher compensation was $94,796 and the average API score was 795,” the report reads in part. “Compensation is defined as wages plus the employer-cost of health and retirement benefits. The average total employee cost per enrolled student was $6,946 and was negatively correlated against the district’s API scores.”

You first have to prove a correlation between teacher's performance and standardised test scores.
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Message 1714341 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 9:14:24 UTC - in response to Message 1714250.  
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Perhaps a model should be developed that I am sure over time will have a high correlation significance, This should include:

Salary
Incoming student IQ and aptitude score
Two parent home?
Parental Income
Parental education level.

I think that it's time that we put more emphasis on the "Quality" of the student rather than totally on the teacher. Over a period of time higher salaries will attract better people and those willing to work in the inner city schools where there is little to no discipline possible.
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Message 1714503 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 15:55:45 UTC - in response to Message 1714346.  

.. I have said before that in the UK we are reaching the stage where the average parent is not fit to breed.
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...and now you are coming out as a supporter of eugenics. Are you really so surprised that people find your posts offensive?
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Message 1714613 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 18:32:28 UTC - in response to Message 1714560.  

No, only you. But these days you find anything offensive that you just don't happen to agree with.

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Lots of people find Eugenics offensive, Chris.
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Message 1714653 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 20:10:47 UTC - in response to Message 1714560.  
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No, only you. But these days you find anything offensive that you just don't happen to agree with.

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Not exactly a denial of support for eugenics. Not sure what purpose the link was meant to serve, wouldn't this be more appropriate, given your nationality?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1714679 - Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 20:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 1714613.  

No, only you. But these days you find anything offensive that you just don't happen to agree with.

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Lots of people find Eugenics offensive, Chris.

Does that include troglodytes? Klan members? ISIL? Excellent company to keep, Chris.
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Message 1715374 - Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 17:16:55 UTC - in response to Message 1714346.  

I have said before that in the UK we are reaching the stage where the average parent is not fit to breed.

Please define this "average parent" that is not fit to breed, and the parameters within which you place them. I would like to know if I need to add your name to my signature.
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Message 1726236 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 15:04:16 UTC - in response to Message 1716619.  

I have said before that in the UK we are reaching the stage where the average parent is not fit to breed.

Yes, you have said that before. I am interested in your answer to the question posed here should I ever decide to have children.
I've already told my parents that they'll have to look to my sister for grandchildren.

When you look at why we have to have "Citizenship" classes", "Life Skills" coaches etc etc it does make me question how long it will be before it happens for real.

I don't know how many British citizens (of any age you care to mention) would actually pass the citizenship test designed to trip up immigrants - but I suspect many wouldn't. More to the point though - I would have thought obligatory citizenship classes would please you. Perhaps you're worried it might lead to the voting age dropping to 16?
There's a little sample quiz here, i got 20/20, they're not difficult questions.
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Message 1726251 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 16:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 1726236.  

16/20 for me :-(
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Message 1726254 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 16:24:52 UTC - in response to Message 1726251.  
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16/20 for me :-(

So did I:)
Without using Googles.
I liked the question Who defeated the Vikings?
It must be important to know that if you are British citizen.

And
How many members does a jury have in England, Wales and Northern Ireland?
I thought that Scotland is a part of the UK:)

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Message 1726260 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 17:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 1726254.  

16/20 for me :-(

So did I:)
Without using Googles.
I liked the question Who defeated the Vikings?
It must be important to know that if you are British citizen.

Oh yes, vital!
Hardly a day goes by when i don't need that piece of information.

And
How many members does a jury have in England, Wales and Northern Ireland?
I thought that Scotland is a part of the UK:)

It is, however it has a separate (though very similar) legal system known as Scots Law. One of the differences is that Scottish juries have 15 members.
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Message 1726309 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 21:43:22 UTC - in response to Message 1726260.  
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And
How many members does a jury have in England, Wales and Northern Ireland?
I thought that Scotland is a part of the UK:)

It is, however it has a separate (though very similar) legal system known as Scots Law. One of the differences is that Scottish juries have 15 members.

I have been to Chichester England and visited a court trial.
In that case I dont think there was any jury.
Anyway. I think most people in the world dont know how law enforcement works.
I dont know my country law enforcement and legal procedures.
Having a question like that to test immigrants is very silly.
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Message 1728493 - Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 11:35:16 UTC

UK students excluded from medical degree course

Wonder how long this has been going on? No wonder the NHS is in trouble!
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Message 1729414 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 4:32:39 UTC - in response to Message 1728493.  

UK students excluded from medical degree course

Wonder how long this has been going on? No wonder the NHS is in trouble!

Having been in conversation down at the Waddington Arms, with a group that included a staff member from the University, he informed us that they would welcome funding from the government and teach British students. But that route is barred and so to keep the Medical department going, they offer this course to foreign students, which brings in funds that keep the dept going until such time as the government see sense.
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Message 1729587 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 17:50:12 UTC - in response to Message 1729414.  

UK students excluded from medical degree course

Wonder how long this has been going on? No wonder the NHS is in trouble!

Having been in conversation down at the Waddington Arms, with a group that included a staff member from the University, he informed us that they would welcome funding from the government and teach British students. But that route is barred and so to keep the Medical department going, they offer this course to foreign students, which brings in funds that keep the dept going until such time as the government see sense.

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Message 1730158 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 23:26:38 UTC - in response to Message 1729779.  

No, only you. But these days you find anything offensive that you just don't happen to agree with.

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Lots of people find Eugenics offensive, Chris.

Does that include troglodytes? Klan members? ISIL? Excellent company to keep, Chris.

Saying that much of the problem with Children's Education, is Class and Culture:

Does not, and has never meant, a support for Eugenics.

Why would someone make that allegation?

Because that's not what Chris argued, he said "[...] we are reaching the stage where the average parent is not fit to breed", which could easily be interpreted as a statement of support for eugenics, an interpretation that Chris has not disavowed.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1730319 - Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 12:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 1730231.  

No, only you. But these days you find anything offensive that you just don't happen to agree with.

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Lots of people find Eugenics offensive, Chris.

Does that include troglodytes? Klan members? ISIL? Excellent company to keep, Chris.

Saying that much of the problem with Children's Education, is Class and Culture:

Does not, and has never meant, a support for Eugenics.

Why would someone make that allegation?

Because that's not what Chris argued, he said "[...] we are reaching the stage where the average parent is not fit to breed", which could easily be interpreted as a statement of support for eugenics, an interpretation that Chris has not disavowed.

You believe Chris is a Progressive?

Because their Foundation in the USA (Read about Margaret Sanger) is about Eugenics.

What I believe is not material. If you want to know whether Chris is a progressive, ask him.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1732116 - Posted: 5 Oct 2015, 19:55:50 UTC

Only half of Swedes correctly answer basic financial questions and simple calculations, according to a survey. Try it yourself and see how many questions you can handle!
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