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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, I have SETI set to no new tasks. I will be ordering a new MoBo, CPU and 2 video cards today. Once BOINC has finished with the current cache of WUs, I will be upgrading this PC with the MoBo, CPU and one of the cards. My question is this: Is it possible to upgrade the hardware without having to re-install Windows? I seem to remember someone here doing that some time ago. I'm thinking that the MoBo install disc will replace the old drivers with new ones, or at least disable the old ones when installing the new ones. Any advice would be most appreciated. :) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
I would say that 'most' times you can get away with using a previous windows install and updating it. BUT for optimum performance you should consider a clean install. As for BOINC, I would set the cache to 0.01 days ... so you have a small cache until you get the parts. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Changing the mobo i`d suggest to reinstall windows. It might work but you can run into trouble weeks later. Once i replaced the mobo which was exactely the same model but i had to install win a few days later because of unexpected BSODs. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
it will not work...'cause the Win will not be activated! it will see a computer as a new one...so either you can boot & activate again... or wait for some time & activate! btw, here is a link to some article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/236731/more_pc_upgrade_mistakes.html p.s. I noticed that in some istances Vista (or later Win) are prone to deactivate with new BIOS...or switching same version of MBO, will get you deactivated (Win remembers the serial number of MBO)... non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
My question is this: Is it possible to upgrade the hardware without having to re-install Windows? If the system is presently stable, it shouldn't be an issue. I'd suggest replacing the motherboard & CPU, but keep the current video card. The less changes you make, the less likely hood there is for problems. Make sure BOINC is still disabled when you reboot for the first time. When booting for the first time, the system will find new hardware, search for drivers, install drivers, find new hardware... over & over & over & over & over again. If the system is set to allow searching for drivers online, things should eventually settle down. If not it will probably find new hardware, but not be able to find & install suitable drivers in which case you can then load them from the motherboard driver CD, or manually go the manufacturer's web site & download them & install them manually. Once you've got all the new hardware found, drivers installed & everything running OK & Windows re-activated, that's the time to then pull out the old video card, install the new one & manually install the latest drivers for it. Once that's all done & everything is chugging along nicely, then you can restart BOINC. Grant Darwin NT |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings all, Wow! I like this. It looks like it is 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. After reading all your posts and suggestions, I'm leaning toward a clean install. It looks like retaining the current install will be more hassle than it is worth. Besides, it's been many years since I installed Win7. One thing I'm NOT looking forward to are all the Win7 updates. :( Oh well, such is life in the world of PC upgrades. :) Thank you all for the advice! :) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
one batch of updates is 200 pieces...& it fequently hangs! ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
I have done a few factory resets / reinstalls and if you allow windows to try and install 200 plus updates it most likely will stall or fail. I find manually selecting about 50 updates for every reboot has good results. A clean install will most likely give you the least amount of issues long term. Bob Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I am not having good luck with the rig I changed mobos on. The original mobo died, and the replacement was similar, but not the same. I have been fighting to get the vid drivers loaded properly, with no success. It is now crunching on CPU only. As soon as I have the time, it's back to saving some files to USB stick and wiping the drive for a fresh install of XP. I have gotten away with this kind of swap before without as much entanglement. But not this time. As usual, YMMV, but have things backed up and saved enough that you can go the full install route if things don't go as one wishes them to. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Todderbert Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 |
I just got a new motherboard and will be doing a similar upgrade. I plan to do a clean install, mainly because it was a simple machine with only BOINC and the general GPU apps and monitor programs installed. Is it ok to cancel tasks? I know they show up as an error but details that it was aborted by the user. I had one of those Suspicious Pulse result wu that would cycle over and over and had to cancel it. |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 |
i don't see a problem with cancelling tasks, they just get sent to another user |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Wow! I like this. It looks like it is 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. After reading all your posts and suggestions, I'm leaning toward a clean install. It looks like retaining the current install will be more hassle than it is worth. Besides, it's been many years since I installed Win7. Might as well just replace the motherboard & try the updating option. If it works, well & good. If not, then the clean installation is the only option left. Grant Darwin NT |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, I now have all but one of the video cards ordered and they are on the way as I speak. This and the i7-4771 cpu will be here tomorrow: This will be here on Tuesday, coming from California: I will be using my existing video card until next month when I can afford another one. We don't do CUDA so the above card will do just fine. In the mean time, I shall have a virtually new PC this weekend. Woohoo! :) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
Is there a question here somewhere, or why are you posting your new hardware? Or is this some kind of advertising? |
Todderbert Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 |
I just did a motherboard swap last night. From a cheapo ECS Z97-PK to an Asus Z97-A. They have the same chipsets and audio. I was using the onboard video so I just hooked up the hard drive and let Windows 7 sort it out. It went flawless, just had to update my LAN driver and add an ASUS probe driver. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Is there a question here somewhere, or why are you posting your new hardware? Greetings, The thread started out as a query and evolved into what it is now. No advertising is intended. There are other similar threads. If there's a problem with this thread, you can go to the moderators. If the thread is deemed not worthy, I would not have a problem with it being removed. ;) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, BOINC is now working on its last WU. It looks like this weekend is perfect for a hardware upgrade what with the computing center down time tomorrow. I am so anxious to see how this new build will handle BOINC. It's gotta be much better than this 1st generation i7. And I'm thinking I won't have the heat problem this i7-860 has. Dang! I feel like a kid on Christmas morning... :D Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22219 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Correction BOINC is not working on its last WU - BOINC does no calculations it only schedules tasks for the applications to work on. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Correction BOINC is not working on its last WU - BOINC does no calculations it only schedules tasks for the applications to work on. Greetings Rob, Yeah, semantics. I say tomato, you say tomahto... ;) Thanks for the correction. :) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
BANZAI56 Send message Joined: 17 May 00 Posts: 139 Credit: 47,299,948 RAC: 2 |
Is there a question here somewhere, or why are you posting your new hardware? I don't know, I'm always happy to see someone get new hardware and follow their progress with it. I can't imagine I'm the only one in that boat. Besides, it is at least relevant to their "Number Crunching" SETI. |
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