Brent, you confused me when you said you had an app_info. I hadn't looked at your computers till later in this thread to see you weren't running the anonymous platform and don't have an app_info. You are just running an app_config to set utilization. Sorry to confuse the thread. I seem to have run my two latest AP tasks correctly with the latest version r2887 application. Can anyone remind me of what importance the plan_class is with relation to what application is used to process a task. I don't think it matters all that much except for the scheduler. Is it important to have the plan_class level in an anonymous platform app_info match the level of the stock application?

Cheers, Keith

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Perhaps you awaiting Lunatics installer, not app.

Yes, sorry I meant to say installer

Brent, you confused me when you said you had an app_info. I hadn't looked at your computers till later in this thread to see you weren't running the anonymous platform and don't have an app_info. You are just running an app_config to set utilization. Sorry to confuse the thread. I seem to have run my two latest AP tasks correctly with the latest version r2887 application. Can anyone remind me of what importance the plan_class is with relation to what application is used to process a task. I don't think it matters all that much except for the scheduler. Is it important to have the plan_class level in an anonymous platform app_info match the level of the stock application?

Cheers, Keith

If you already have work cached when you set up the app_info.xml file, then it is important that you have an <app_version> block that matches the work you already have - both plan_class and version_num - otherwise BOINC will discard it. But if you are starting from empty, you can choose any plan_class name you like.

But it's recommended to use the same plan classes and version numbers as the stock applications. If I'm ever persuaded to update the installer, the new stock sets will be added to the already lengthy list of app versions recognised, and work already cached will be preserved during installation. If you have rolled your own, and forgotten about it, work will get trashed if you choose to run the installer at a later date.

Thanks for the clarification, Richard. I knew there was a caveat in there somewhere when I got burned before in editing app_info with work on board that didn't match. That is when it is nice to have resends turned on. I surmise it is safe now to go back and re-edit app_info and correct the version level at least since I don't have any AP tasks on board for quite a few days and not likely to pick any new ones up it seems.

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I surmise it is safe now to go back and re-edit app_info and correct the version level at least since I don't have any AP tasks on board ...

Yes, in this case you can correct the version number.

And even if you had tasks it's easy to do it safe:
- Copy/Paste the entire <app_version> section
- Edit the Top copy to the new number (and leave the bottom copy unchanged)

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Done. I just did a ReplaceAll in Notepad for the <version_num>705</version_num> string and replaced it with the <version_num>710</version_num> string. Should work but won't know for sure until new AP7 GPU work comes on board.

Keith

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Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

You knew this question was going to be asked so I might as well ask it :).

It appears this is for ATI cards. Is there one in the works for Nvidia?

It's for all supported GPU: ATI, NV and iGPU. Look to application page more closely.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

And correction for fist post: Windows and OS X for now, Linux in its way still.

Is there any news when the Linux/Nvidia version might appear? I know there have not been any APs except resends for a few days but perhaps we will get lucky after the maintenance period later on today. I am sure it will also take me some time to figure out how to get a hold of it as an anonymous cruncher.

Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

thx, will check if it works on a laptop's HD 3450m... ;)

Unfortunately the HD3000 series don't support OpenCL & the HD4000 series had "beta" OpenCL support.

can you please confirm that AGP HD4650 will crunch the SETI@home? just found one for my old system, for cheap... ;)

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Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

thx, will check if it works on a laptop's HD 3450m... ;)

Unfortunately the HD3000 series don't support OpenCL & the HD4000 series had "beta" OpenCL support.

can you please confirm that AGP HD4650 will crunch the SETI@home? just found one for my old system, for cheap... ;)

At the moment you can get a HD4650 to work. There some caveats. Such as you MUST use an older drive that still has OpenCL support for the HD4000 series. I forget if it is 12.4 or 12.6 at the moment, but drivers from 2012 either way. Then the next issue may if the apps will still support OpenCL 1.0 cards. That is up to the app developer Raistmer. An ATi HD5000 card is a safer bet.

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The 4650 was a bit tricky.
Some cards are working some dont have OpenCL support.
Last time i asked Raistmer the code was OpenCL 1.0 compatible.
From this point i dont see a problem.

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The 4650 was a bit tricky.
Some cards are working some dont have OpenCL support.
Last time i asked Raistmer the code was OpenCL 1.0 compatible.
From this point i dont see a problem.

Sound like maybe some manufactures didn't implement OpenCL in their firmware in that case.

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The 4650 was a bit tricky.
Some cards are working some dont have OpenCL support.
Last time i asked Raistmer the code was OpenCL 1.0 compatible.
From this point i dont see a problem.

Sound like maybe some manufactures didn't implement OpenCL in their firmware in that case.

Yep, thats the case.

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Someone please explain to me why I can't use my HD3000 running Intel OpenCL CPU 1.2.
I tested it with CompuBench 1.5.6. It didn't find any problems or deficiencies and BOINC recognizes it.

Someone please explain to me why I can't use my HD3000 running Intel OpenCL CPU 1.2.
I tested it with CompuBench 1.5.6. It didn't find any problems or deficiencies and BOINC recognizes it.

That is the CPU that has OpenCL support, not the GPU, the 2*** series of Intel Core Processors don't have a GPU that supports OpenCL,
to get that OpenCL support you need a 3*** series Intel Core Processor.

Claggy

Someone please explain to me why I can't use my HD3000 running Intel OpenCL CPU 1.2.
I tested it with CompuBench 1.5.6. It didn't find any problems or deficiencies and BOINC recognizes it.

Sure. Intel doesn't support OpenCL in your GPU.See =url=http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-033757.htm]Intel OpenCL support list[/url].

A seventh generation iGPU or newer is required. Seventh generation iGPUs are found in Ivy Bridge & Haswell CPUs. While eighth generation iGPUs are currently found in Broadwell CPUs.

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Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

thx, will check if it works on a laptop's HD 3450m... ;)

Unfortunately the HD3000 series don't support OpenCL & the HD4000 series had "beta" OpenCL support.

can you please confirm that AGP HD4650 will crunch the SETI@home? just found one for my old system, for cheap... ;)

At the moment you can get a HD4650 to work. There some caveats. Such as you MUST use an older drive that still has OpenCL support for the HD4000 series. I forget if it is 12.4 or 12.6 at the moment, but drivers from 2012 either way. Then the next issue may if the apps will still support OpenCL 1.0 cards. That is up to the app developer Raistmer. An ATi HD5000 card is a safer bet.

Would SETI@home work on a Pentium3 machine with SSE?

Or should I put it in a dual Athlon board? ;)

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Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

thx, will check if it works on a laptop's HD 3450m... ;)

Unfortunately the HD3000 series don't support OpenCL & the HD4000 series had "beta" OpenCL support.

can you please confirm that AGP HD4650 will crunch the SETI@home? just found one for my old system, for cheap... ;)

At the moment you can get a HD4650 to work. There some caveats. Such as you MUST use an older drive that still has OpenCL support for the HD4000 series. I forget if it is 12.4 or 12.6 at the moment, but drivers from 2012 either way. Then the next issue may if the apps will still support OpenCL 1.0 cards. That is up to the app developer Raistmer. An ATi HD5000 card is a safer bet.

Would SETI@home work on a Pentium3 machine with SSE?

Or should I put it in a dual Athlon board? ;)

The SETI@home(MB) GPU apps only require SSE, but the Astropulse GPU apps require SSE2. Based on their file naming conventions.

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Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

thx, will check if it works on a laptop's HD 3450m... ;)

Unfortunately the HD3000 series don't support OpenCL & the HD4000 series had "beta" OpenCL support.

can you please confirm that AGP HD4650 will crunch the SETI@home? just found one for my old system, for cheap... ;)

At the moment you can get a HD4650 to work. There some caveats. Such as you MUST use an older drive that still has OpenCL support for the HD4000 series. I forget if it is 12.4 or 12.6 at the moment, but drivers from 2012 either way. Then the next issue may if the apps will still support OpenCL 1.0 cards. That is up to the app developer Raistmer. An ATi HD5000 card is a safer bet.

Would SETI@home work on a Pentium3 machine with SSE?

The Stock CPU Setiathome_v7 app should work on any host whether it has SSE or not, there isn't a current revision Optimised Setiathome_v7 CPU SSE app available,
Although I was running an older revision on my PIII that was a bit faster than Stock.

For AMD GPUs, an SSE2 processor is a requirement for OpenCL to be available, it may not say that clearly on their site,
I've tried it on my XP3200+, it has no CPU OpenCL support, and nor does it get OpenCL support for it's HD4650.

For Nvidia GPUs, Cuda and OpenCL support is available even with only a SSE processor,
and both the x41zc Cuda app, and the OpenCL Astropulse app should run O.K,
I've tested both on my XP3200+/HD4650/8400GS host.

Or should I put it in a dual Athlon board? ;)

Depends whether those Athlon's have SSE2 or not.

Claggy

Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

You knew this question was going to be asked so I might as well ask it :).

It appears this is for ATI cards. Is there one in the works for Nvidia?

It's for all supported GPU: ATI, NV and iGPU. Look to application page more closely.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php

And correction for fist post: Windows and OS X for now, Linux in its way still.

Is there any news when the Linux/Nvidia version might appear? I know there have not been any APs except resends for a few days but perhaps we will get lucky after the maintenance period later on today. I am sure it will also take me some time to figure out how to get a hold of it as an anonymous cruncher.

Right after I posted the above question, this thread got sidetracked with a question about HD4650 video cards and drifted away from the original "Updated OpenCL AstroPulse" apps subject and it never received a response. Now that a new AP tape is being split (09oc11ab) it seems like this would be a good time to bring it up again for all those that use Linux.

Maybe some already noticed that we got AstroPulse OpenCL app update for Windows and Linux.
These binaries are the best currently available ones so I would recommend those who use anonymous platform config to update to these stock ones.

thx, will check if it works on a laptop's HD 3450m... ;)

Unfortunately the HD3000 series don't support OpenCL & the HD4000 series had "beta" OpenCL support.

can you please confirm that AGP HD4650 will crunch the SETI@home? just found one for my old system, for cheap... ;)

At the moment you can get a HD4650 to work. There some caveats. Such as you MUST use an older drive that still has OpenCL support for the HD4000 series. I forget if it is 12.4 or 12.6 at the moment, but drivers from 2012 either way. Then the next issue may if the apps will still support OpenCL 1.0 cards. That is up to the app developer Raistmer. An ATi HD5000 card is a safer bet.

Would SETI@home work on a Pentium3 machine with SSE?

The Stock CPU Setiathome_v7 app should work on any host whether it has SSE or not, there isn't a current revision Optimised Setiathome_v7 CPU SSE app available,
Although I was running an older revision on my PIII that was a bit faster than Stock.

For AMD GPUs, an SSE2 processor is a requirement for OpenCL to be available, it may not say that clearly on their site,
I've tried it on my XP3200+, it has no CPU OpenCL support, and nor does it get OpenCL support for it's HD4650.

For Nvidia GPUs, Cuda and OpenCL support is available even with only a SSE processor,
and both the x41zc Cuda app, and the OpenCL Astropulse app should run O.K,
I've tested both on my XP3200+/HD4650/8400GS host.

Or should I put it in a dual Athlon board? ;)

Depends whether those Athlon's have SSE2 or not.

Claggy

thx...so it goes in Athlon XP case!

just checking also GT PCI cards for P3s...
link
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