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Message 1668886 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:16:47 UTC - in response to Message 1668875.  

The "boats" coming to Europe are not seaworthy and overcrowded.
Let's say the Costguard make a boat to turn back and the boat sinks.
Who's responsible?

Easy, the captain who set off with a knackered boat in the first place.
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Message 1668889 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:24:00 UTC - in response to Message 1668886.  
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The "boats" coming to Europe are not seaworthy and overcrowded.
Let's say the Costguard make a boat to turn back and the boat sinks.
Who's responsible?

Easy, the captain who set off with a knackered boat in the first place.

Most of the boats dosn't have a captain.
They "train" someone to steer North.
Even a Child can do that.

The captain says "good luck" and walks away with the Money.
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Message 1668891 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:35:01 UTC - in response to Message 1668889.  

The "boats" coming to Europe are not seaworthy and overcrowded.
Let's say the Costguard make a boat to turn back and the boat sinks.
Who's responsible?

Easy, the captain who set off with a knackered boat in the first place.

Most of the boats dosn't have a captain.
They "train" someone to steer North.
Even a Child can do that.

The captain says "good luck" and walks away with the Money.

Him then.
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Message 1668892 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 11:37:53 UTC - in response to Message 1668875.  

The "boats" coming to Europe are not seaworthy and overcrowded.
Let's say the Costguard make a boat to turn back and the boat sinks.
Who's responsible?


Exactly ....Jann , Dum Dum our P.M Tony Abbot could not care in the world , if you have been watching what has been happening down here , many deaths un sea worthy ships no captains , overloaded . Left on deserted islands ....!!!!!

War , Hunger , poverty ......how you gona stop that ?
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Message 1668904 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 12:22:52 UTC - in response to Message 1668892.  
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War , Hunger , poverty ......how you gona stop that ?

And now global warming...

Helping the Migrants Is Everyone’s Duty
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/23/opinion/matteo-renzi-helping-the-migrants-is-everyones-duty.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region&region=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=1

btw Former Swedish FM Carl Bildt are having dinner with Australia FM Julie Bishop in Brussels tonight on strengthening links between EU and Australia.
I guess they will discuss the migration problem.
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Message 1668906 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 12:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 1668891.  

The "boats" coming to Europe are not seaworthy and overcrowded.
Let's say the Costguard make a boat to turn back and the boat sinks.
Who's responsible?

Easy, the captain who set off with a knackered boat in the first place.

Most of the boats dosn't have a captain.
They "train" someone to steer North.
Even a Child can do that.

The captain says "good luck" and walks away with the Money.

Him then.

I didn't mean the person at the helm.
The boat owner is more correct. If there are any.
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Message 1668916 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 13:02:04 UTC - in response to Message 1668904.  

Jann Julie bishop is apparently backing away from her leaders words that Europe should do what he is doing here !... Bloody &^%$%^&^%$#$%^ both of them

Or so the news says
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Message 1668918 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 13:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 1668916.  
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Jann Julie bishop is apparently backing away from her leaders words that Europe should do what he is doing here !... Bloody &^%$%^&^%$#$%^ both of them
Or so the news says

Thank God that we have so many countries in the EU:)

Migrants Face Fortress Europe’s Deadly Moat
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Message 1668924 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 13:28:24 UTC
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This shows you why the refugees crossing the mediterranean by boat, can't just fly to Europe.
https://youtu.be/YO0IRsfrPQ4
EU Directive 2001/51/EC !!!!
of 28 June 2001 supplementing the provisions of Article 26 of the Convention implementing the Schengen Agreement of 14 June 1985
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Message 1668927 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 13:45:55 UTC

What get's me mate is here there are more people Flying in under holiday Visa's and not leaving than there ever was by boat , go figure ay!

They change'd Laws here to denaige people from landing here in the first place by boat , by off shore processing of there claims ....

Now there sending people to Cambodia , one of the poorest place in our area ...

Makes you wonder what sort of Future will there be with attitudes from leaders that allow these policy's
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Message 1668928 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 13:56:37 UTC - in response to Message 1668927.  

They change'd Laws here to denaige people from landing here in the first place by boat , by off shore processing of there claims ....

Maybe EU should send ferries to Libya with immigration officers on board and do all their checking at place and going back with only refugees.
Or is that illegal?
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Message 1668931 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 14:03:21 UTC - in response to Message 1668928.  

Maybe EU should send ferries to Libya with immigration officers on board and do all their checking at place and going back with only refugees.
Or is that illegal?


Liberal Party View "no worry's we will get the U.N and E.U to change the definition of a refugee" problem solved
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Message 1668934 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 14:08:22 UTC - in response to Message 1668931.  

Maybe EU should send ferries to Libya with immigration officers on board and do all their checking at place and going back with only refugees.
Or is that illegal?

Liberal Party View "no worry's we will get the U.N and E.U to change the definition of a refugee" problem solved

Good idea. And then you don't have to change so many laws and directives.
Suddenly there are no refugees...
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Message 1668935 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 14:15:57 UTC - in response to Message 1668933.  
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They change'd Laws here to denaige people from landing here in the first place by boat , by off shore processing of there claims ....

Maybe EU should send ferries to Libya with immigration officers on board and do all their checking at place and going back with only refugees.
Or is that illegal?

Why should Western People (we may be broke), pay for Their Failed Culture?

Have you read the New York Times today?
Matteo Renzi: Helping the Migrants Is Everyone’s Duty.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/23/opinion/matteo-renzi-helping-the-migrants-is-everyones-duty.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region&region=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=1
Matteo Renzi is the prime minister of Italy.
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Message 1668937 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 14:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 1668934.  

I'm fracking serious that was a idea out of the Liberal Party here just after they came to power .

A taste of what other Gov's may do !!!!

No worry's were gone'a have Robots .......WTF ?

No poor people only rich snob's and there Robot slaves ... the modern garden of Eden , Paradise .....
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Message 1668943 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 14:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 1668938.  
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What exactly do you believe their problem, really is?

As a refugee beeing poor perhaps...
As a politician not willing to priorities things so that so many people live in poverty perhaps...
Poverty is the main cause for migration...
Poverty is also cause for world population growth...
Next cause is global warming that cause migrations...
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Message 1668979 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 16:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 1668968.  

What exactly do you believe their problem, really is?

As a refugee beeing poor perhaps...
As a politician not willing to priorities things so that so many people live in poverty perhaps...
Poverty is the main cause for migration...
Poverty is also cause for world population growth...
Next cause is global warming that cause migrations...

Since The West cannot afford it: Solution to Global poverty?

There is no Global poverty.
Poverty are mainly in Africa and some in Asia.
Population growth are largest in Africa and not so much in Asia.
Child mortality are largest in Africa and not so much in Asia.
Child mortality leads to that too many children are born in a family.

The West cannot afford to bring people out of poverty?
Nonsense.
If the west help poor people out of poverty (not by money) a lot of problems in our World will be solved.
It's a win-win situation.
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Message 1669003 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 17:07:07 UTC - in response to Message 1668990.  
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If not money - what?
How long will it take?
Can Western Europe afford, perhaps millions (why not), of New Poor into their County's/Cultures, in the meantime?
How does Secular, and Tolerant Western Europe, assimilate all these Religious, Non-Tolerant people?
Sorry for these Inconvenient Questions. I am just a Practicable Person, who believes in Practicable Solutions.

Africa don't need Money. It's a rich continent. They just need technological help and assistant.
It seems to go faster in some African contries then predicted in many ways to get out of poverty.
In Kenya.https://twitter.com/HansRosling/status/590652915917922304
If Europe cannot afford to help Africa then we are doomed.
Religion? Are you serious? Most countries are secular even in Africa.

If no one ask Inconvenient Questions or talk about issues then what will happen?
Everyone Political Correct? I hate that Word.

Here is some depressing stats.
Reporters Without Borders
https://index.rsf.org/#!/
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Message 1669016 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 17:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1669007.  
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Are we speaking of the entire African Continent, or North Africa?
The African Continent has different Races, Religions, Country's, Cultures, Wealth, etc.
The 'Wealthy' portions of This Continent, are going to 'share' their Wealth with different Races, Religions, Cultures, Country's, etc.
Using the Eurasian Continent, as an example: Ain't gonna happen.

Migrants from Africa to Europe are from countries north of the equator.
That those wealthy countries in Africa are going to share anything to countries like Somalia, Sudan, Ethiopia and others is not going to happen for now.
Mostly because these countries are in conflicts.

The African Continent has different Races, Religions, Country's, Cultures, Wealth.
Well Watch this http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/Using-photos-as-data-to-underst;search%3Arosling
Dollar Street is a visual framework for understanding different standards of living within and between countries.
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Message 1669145 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 23:02:07 UTC

you know it wasn't all that long ago there was a boat filled with people and no country would let them dock ....Voyage of the Dam'd ! comes to mind .

My how we have not learnt the lessons of the past .
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