Thread for all discussions hard drug related.

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Thread for all discussions hard drug related.

Is that PG 13?

Thread for all discussions hard drug related.

Is that PG 13?

If we use civilized language, of course it is.

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Thread for all discussions hard drug related.

Is that PG 13?

If we use civilized language, of course it is.

Strange. Here we have law against public discussions about drugs, alcohol and tobaco in public space to kids like 13 years old or less that could access such forum.
Such as SETI.
What have different or so called "civilized" languages have do with it?

Thread for all discussions hard drug related.

Is that PG 13?

If we use civilized language, of course it is.

Strange. Here we have law against public discussions about drugs, alcohol and tobaco in public space to kids like 13 years old that could access such forum. Such as SETI.

Again, as long as we keep the language civilized, 'clean' that is, this thread will be just fine, words as cocaine, heroine, LSD, speed, methadon etc exist in dictionaries, we might as well discuss them.

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If you don't feel like discussing hard drugs, you shouldn't, Janne.

Of course. But I'm more concerned about kids 13 to 18 years old.
To me it's so very strange that this topic occure in a PG13 Forum.
I Think it should be PG18 at least.

Anyway. Happy easter Julie:)

If you don't feel like discussing hard drugs, you shouldn't, Janne.

Of course. But I'm more concerned about kids 13 to 18 years old.
To me it's so very strange that this topic occure in a PG13 Forum.
I Think it should be PG18 at least.

Anyway. Happy easter Julie:)

You too Janne.

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As the opening post stated, any discussion hard drug related belongs in here.

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I don't see alcohol/nicotine as hard drugs.

I'm a retired Social Worker who worked with Adolescent Addicts (and occassionally adults). I worked with addicts of all sorts whether it was Marijuana all the way to Meth & Cocaine.

Marijuana is a border-line drug for me. If used lightly, I see it as a soft drug (and beneficial for medical-use). I've also seen kids so hooked up on Marijuana that they actually do suffer withdrawl. This is most definitely a hard-level type of situation.

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I don't see alcohol/nicotine as hard drugs.

I'm a retired Social Worker who worked with Adolescent Addicts (and occassionally adults). I worked with addicts of all sorts whether it was Marijuana all the way to Meth & Cocaine.

Marijuana is a border-line drug for me. If used lightly, I see it as a soft drug (and beneficial for medical-use). I've also seen kids so hooked up on Marijuana that they actually do suffer withdrawl. This is most definitely a hard-level type of situation.

I agree with you.
Alcohol/nicotine are a legal substanses.
Marijuana/Hashish are not legal but pretty much the same.
All of them in moderation is not bad, but excessive use...
Hard drugs however...
Why discuss it here?
My mind boggles.
It's a PG 13 forum!

Hard drugs however...
Why discuss it here?
My mind boggles.
It's a PG 13 forum!

Everyone interprets PG-13 differently. I know by 13 the public schools had given us instruction in an attempt to get us kids to leave the stuff alone. So it isn't prohibited knowledge. As I don't hit too many movies, I don't know where the MPAA censors place drug use. Of course it may all depend if you are promoting use or discussing abuse.

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Hopefully, we don't get into a 'Google Translation' problem.

Its not just tranlation problems either. Its how a word is used in context.
English speakers have a hard time grasping how a word is used in context, I cant even think how a non English speaker would even have a notion how a word is used.
As an example. The boss was riding my ass all day. That can be read two ways.
Some would read it as the boss was rding my donkey all day. Most of us who have had a boss ride our ass all day, Take it a whole lot differnet.
Google can translate the words. And some languages it dosent do a great job at that either.
Another example. I like to read, I read a book. Or that basket was made of reed.
There are many more examples.
But the thing is lets just try communicating and forget the occasional laspe in translation.

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Hopefully, we don't get into a 'Google Translation' problem.

Its not just tranlation problems either. Its how a word is used in context.
English speakers have a hard time grasping how a word is used in context, I cant even think how a non English speaker would even have a notion how a word is used.
As an example. The boss was riding my ass all day. That can be read two ways.
Some would read it as the boss was rding my donkey all day. Most of us who have had a boss ride our ass all day, Take it a whole lot differnet.
Google can translate the words. And some languages it dosent do a great job at that either.
Another example. I like to read, I read a book. Or that basket was made of reed.
There are many more examples.
But the thing is lets just try communicating and forget the occasional laspe in translation.

+1

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And I have always had a problem with certain issues pertaining to my posts being PG13...
Mainly that any savvy 7 or 8yo can pull up anything they want to with any search engine available on the net.
Even on my worst day, things I post here are better than what is very simply available on the rest of the net.
So sometimes I don't get the gnashing of teeth over my posts.

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The MPAA rating system is a voluntary scheme that is not enforced by law.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/
Millions of volunteers, in 226 countries
Yes. 226 different national views how a fora should be moderated.
And every fora has it's own rules.

About reading SETI forums:)
https://www.google.se/#q=seti+politics+boards
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=23

btw. Is it ok if I start a thread in Cafe Seti called "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" and giving instructions how to make one?

Speakers Corner in Hyde Park, London, comes to mind:)

I don't know about the wisdom of using movie ratings, such as PG13, to indicate acceptability of comments under the rules here.

The ratings are somewhat fluid over time, and they are not truly rigid standards either. People in different nations have different standards of acceptability, as do people in the same nation but of different cultural backgrounds.

And even in the same nation and culture, people's standards of acceptability change over time.

For instance, violence. A movie that got the "X" rating for violence when I was much younger, for instance "A Clockwork Orange (1971)", would today receive either an "R" or even a "PG13", depending on how the people on the ratings committee felt that day.

By the same token, there is rather intense pressure to make some activities once deemed highly acceptable, for instance tobacco smoking, push films into a more restricted rating.

On the subject of "drugs"...

In the USA, even 2 popular 'legal' drugs are age restricted. Nicotine is 18+, Ethanol is 21+. There are other 'legal' drugs that really are not age restricted, for instance Caffeine. It is not really illegal to give a child a Coca-cola or a Dr. Pepper, but many parents, myself included, would wish you wouldn't give one to their children... Bouncing off the walls 'til the wee hours of the morning... arrgh!

Then, there are the so-called 'soft drugs' such as cannabis. Perhaps their use may be unwise, but they are not known to be highly harmful... yet. While there are some nations where it is legal it use Cannabis under some circumstances, in others it is not. Here in the USA, there are some States (4, iirc) where Cannabis use is legal under State law for recreational purposes, but it is still illegal under Federal law and the State laws in the other 46 or so States.

Over in the Cannabis thread, we even had quite a number of posters advocating its use. That is, advocating people do something that stands a good chance of being illegal where they live, even if it might not be all that dangerous (or so many believe).

On to the so-called 'hard drugs'... drugs that are highly addictive and/or highly dangerous. These are BAD. I have known people that have gotten involved with, for instance, Cocaine, Heroin and Methamphetamine. They all messed up their lives, and some died.

A couple of years ago, I lived in the Dallas, Texas area. About 3 suburbs east of where I lived, over the last 20 years, heroin became popular in the high schools. There was an uptick in the deaths from overdose among these high school kids, I think it got mentioned even in the National news media, I KNOW it was all over the local and Statewide news media. It is one of the reasons I moved... before my oldest started school. I moved back to the rather small town I grew up in. It is small enough that almost everyone knows everyone else, and it is MUCH easier to keep track of what the kids are doing. I don't want my kids anywhere near any illegal drugs, but especially not the 'hard' ones.

Normally, I don't red-x very many posts at all. The only time I can recall offhand doing so over the last few years was when the poster advocated doing a highly illegal thing.

But, If I see people advocating hard drug use here, like I saw them advocating cannabis use over in the cannabis thread, I will be tap-dancing on the red-x button.

Cannabis, I can ignore. "Hard drugs", I cannot.

So, please people... Discussion of "hard drugs" is ok with me, I suppose. Advocating their use is not. Please, let us not go there.

Who is debating moderation activities?
I Think these rules should be used.

1. Everyone MUST follow SETI rules.
2. The OP SHOULD close down her/his thread if someone are violating rule no 1.
3. Mods ARE checking rules 1 and 2.

The MPAA rating system is a voluntary scheme that is not enforced by law.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/kiosk/
Millions of volunteers, in 226 countries
Yes. 226 different national views how a fora should be moderated.
And every fora has it's own rules.

About reading SETI forums:)
https://www.google.se/#q=seti+politics+boards
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=23

btw. Is it ok if I start a thread in Cafe Seti called "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" and giving instructions how to make one?

Speakers Corner in Hyde Park, London, comes to mind:)

This is a thread to discuss hard drugs and peoples attitudes and perhaps experiences, not a thread to tell you where to get the best deal of how to prepare drugs for use.

If you were to start a thread discussing bomb making it would be hidden you would be banned and I expect you would receive a visit from the authorities.

Also note this from the forum "rules"

These forums are a free service on servers controlled by SETI@home, a project supported by the University of California and various funding sources. If we find anything on these forums we deem inappropriate, it will be removed. No debate (public or private) is necessary before removal. Case closed. If you don't like it, we welcome you to have your discussions on one of the almost infinite other forum services elsewhere on the internet. Further violent aggression between users will not be tolerated. Such user accounts may be deleted outright. Note the purposeful use of the word "may" - we don't claim to be 24/7 police force, either.


*) We don't need to explain our every action. We reserve the right to refuse service to anybody. If you are misbehaving, or simply being a general nuisance, you may quickly find yourself banned from posting.

SETI@Home forum SETI@Home rules, simple.

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Can we get back to the question of hard drugs please.

If you wish to be a moderator, contact the admin, until that happens, stop trying to teach people how to suck eggs.

Personally, I feel the distinction between "soft" & "hard" drugs is pure B/S.

Drug use is just that & regardless of its pliability, users become paranoid towards "normal" people. Users also distrust non-users & go out of their way to condone their actions & attempt (& failing to do so) to prove its harmless & that they know what they are doing as can be seen in the "soft" drug thread.

Again, how do we define "Hard"? A substance that is lethal in one use? A substance that causes physical distress when removed? A substance that is taken by injection? A substance that destroys living tissue?

Discussing regulated substances like Nicotine and Alcohol is a waste of time(my opinion). Caffeine is not regulated but probably should be(due to several deaths caused by 'Energy Drink' overdose}. [url]http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/energy-drink-deaths.htm [/url]

If the addictive nature of a substance is to be the definition, then we would have to include 'Smart' phones, video games, texting, politics, religion and posting to message boards. All of these too can have lethal consequence.
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http://kdvr.com/2013/05/11/police-facebook-message-leads-to-stabbing-death-of-colo-springs-man/[/url]

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