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Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I agree on this Martin. In addition you shouldn`t forget that recent OpenCL apps consume approx 30% of the CPU. So running 3 instances requires to reserve another core on AMD`s to get best performance. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
Oh, I don't normally equate 55% gpu load with running flat out I have four cores free now. AMD spreads the work across all eight core whatever your desired usage. That is why I see my CPU load bouncing between roughly 3500mhz and 4100mhz, I'm sure. Should I free up 2 more cores? My RAC certainly doesn't indicate the need. Also, I am trying to keep temps and power consumption down. Right now I feel I've found a sweet spot. My RAC is still up over 1500 from yesterday afternoon. That is probably what I should expect from my rig, it was the same before I fried the Roswell PSU. Also, the new EVGA PSU seems to be moving more air, my temps are down a few ticks. Anyhow, I'm all ears. Peace and happy crunching! |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
OK, that is not the CPU "load" you see bouncing between 3500MHz & 4100Mhz, that's the effective clock speed. This is not really a "problem", more an annoyance, and is a feature of AMD's FX processors. It is quite easy to solve, but the exact setting is determined by your motherboard's BIOS. You need to turn Turbo-Boost OFF. I know this sounds contradictory, but by turning this off and you get a more stable processor performance. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
OK, that is not the CPU "load" you see bouncing between 3500MHz & 4100Mhz, that's the effective clock speed. This is not really a "problem", more an annoyance, and is a feature of AMD's FX processors. It is quite easy to solve, but the exact setting is determined by your motherboard's BIOS. You need to turn Turbo-Boost OFF. I know this sounds contradictory, but by turning this off and you get a more stable processor performance. Kinda like Intel's little hyperthreading mode. I have found it to be excess baggage, and not worth the trouble. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
OK, that is not the CPU "load" you see bouncing between 3500MHz & 4100Mhz, that's the effective clock speed. This is not really a "problem", more an annoyance, and is a feature of AMD's FX processors. It is quite easy to solve, but the exact setting is determined by your motherboard's BIOS. You need to turn Turbo-Boost OFF. I know this sounds contradictory, but by turning this off and you get a more stable processor performance. I'll give it a shot. However, an unloaded, idle CPU, runs at about 1500mhz, I'm pretty sure. I will check my BIOS though, I'll let you know what happens. How about unloading two more CPU cores? Do you think that will help also? Peace and happy crunching! |
Gerry Send message Joined: 29 May 15 Posts: 84 Credit: 4,956,983 RAC: 0 |
which motherboard do you have? |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
which motherboard do you have? AMD FX-8350 at 4100mhz 16gigs of G-Skill Ripjaws RAM at 1600mhz 2-Powercolor R9 280Xs 1030/1500mhz Gigabyte GA970-UD3 MOBO Samsung EVO 850 SSD EVGA Supernova P2 1200W PSU |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
which motherboard do you have? There is something I'm missing, I know it. My RAC is going up as expected but, my GPU load is not what it should be. Crossfire is disabled, all of my preferences and settings are at 100%. I just don't know. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Unloading two more cores will not help. Turning off turbo-boost, and energy saving (if supported) will lead to the CPU running constantly at 3500MHz, which will make the CPU tasks run smoother, and actually help feed the hungry GPUs. Using something like GPU-Z what is the %GPU Load? This is the key figure, and is found on the sensors tab. It is rare to get it to 100%, but anything over 98% is as good as it gets. Also check the %Memory Controller usage - if this is over about 90% then yo are heading int thrashing not productive work. There were a few AP flying around at the weekend which lead to a step up in RACs for some, so don't get too excited. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 20309 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
Running 1 WU at a time. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34258 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Running 1 WU at a time. I`m soory but this only indicates you wouldn`t benefit much running more than 1 instance. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 20309 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
Running 1 WU at a time. I had my suspicions and GPU-Z confirmed it. Thinking about getting a better GPU sometime down the road a bit. But Rob's 100% is not very rare on this card. |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
CRASH!! I don't know what happened. I had a problem with CCC installing and the next thing I knew, all hell broke loose. Anyhow, back to Win 7 through my backup image. All is well for now... |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
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Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
So, I finally broke 4 million. I still feel my GPUs aren't loaded properly. However, the occasional set of APs really pushes them. Still looking for an advantage... |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
<app_config> <app> <name>astropulse_v7</name> <max_concurrent>12</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>.33</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>.5</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> <app> <name>setiathome_v7</name> <max_concurrent>12</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>.25</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>.33</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> </app_config> so, what is wrong with this....? Trying to get my GPUs to 100%. They will only do that with APs for now. They are running about 60 to 75%. |
Zule Send message Joined: 1 Jul 06 Posts: 52 Credit: 84,436,096 RAC: 0 |
Sorry I haven't contributed more to the thread I started.. I've been working on an FX build that I hope to brag about soon, and I'm a truck driver so I'm not home very much... I wasn't trying to start a war of CPU's or OS's and I apologize for contributing to that evil.. I'd like to blame alcohol but that's a sorry excuse for being a bad person. In the end does your choice of CPU really make a difference? I have a couple of old Phoneom II 965's that were released in 2009.. They handle the Internet with tons of power to spare.. They can easily feed quad gpu's for data crunching, and can run Windows 10 with noooo problem.. Unless you run the latest and greatest games on 4k monitors or edit or stream video to Youtube like Linus then your CPU power is a moot point.. Fan boys will argue to the death over 1 frame per second or 1 kilowatt per hour.... Don't be that fanboy... Jay of Jayztwocent posted a video about Intel's power consumption Vs AMD's lower price.... If I remember correctly It'll take you 5 years to justify the Intel tax, so it doesn't matter.. I stand by something I said early on..... I can go to Fry's Electronics or Microcenter and build a 5 grand computer with the best hardware money can buy and a 500 dollar computer with the cheapest hardware money can buy, and the average person could not tell the difference.. Both machines would run facebook at the same speed.. Both would be faster than the fastest SSD.. Both are faster than AC wifi.. Both are WAY WAY faster than Seti requires to feed a GPU... |
Louis Loria II Send message Joined: 20 Oct 03 Posts: 259 Credit: 9,208,040 RAC: 24 |
Sorry I haven't contributed more to the thread I started.. I've been working on an FX build that I hope to brag about soon, and I'm a truck driver so I'm not home very much... I wasn't trying to start a war of CPU's or OS's and I apologize for contributing to that evil.. I'd like to blame alcohol but that's a sorry excuse for being a bad person. I've checked put the videos you have suggested. I must agree. Also, you are absolutely correct about the average consumer regarding hardware. As long as it runs Facebook, Netflix, or whatever, they don't care. I like my FX machine and I'll stick with AMD for the foreseeable future. I do hope they come up with some new tech pretty soon though... |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I hope you get your wish too. And sooner than later would be best. With the Zen processors not hitting the market till late next year, I have doubts whether AMD will survive till then. From reading from Motley Fool and Seeking Alpha, the majority of analysts predict AMD will be bought out for very cheap by the likes of IBM or Samsung. The consensus is that the processor division will go by the wayside and the company will try and play in the video market with Nvidia. Which is not good news for consumers and the lack of competition to Intel. Good luck to them. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
ChrisD Send message Joined: 25 Sep 99 Posts: 158 Credit: 2,496,342 RAC: 0 |
After several upgrades of Your Display Drivers, things seems to get messy. When I start getting display driver errors, I know it is time to clean up. Normal Driver removal does not seem to help, so here is what I found out: http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/ Contains a Utilty called Display Driver Removal tool. You need to boot in Safe mode in order to to remove Your Display Drivers completely. When Your machine is back up, only generic VGA driver is active, so keep Your Catalyst / Nvidia Video Drivers where You can easily find them. :) Now just do a new install of You latest Video Driver. Every time I have done this trick, my Display Driver Errors has vanished. Good Luck :) ChrisD |
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