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(CNN) -- The search is on for an AirAsia plane carrying 162 people that lost contact with air traffic control in Indonesia on Sunday.

Before communication was lost, AirAsia Flight 8501 asked to deviate from its planned flight route -- from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore -- because of weather conditions, AirAsia said in a statement.

Flight 8501 went missing at 7:24 a.m. Sunday (7:24 p.m. Saturday ET) as it flew over the Java Sea.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/27/world/asia/airasia-missing-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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According to CNN the Airbus can land on water.

AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Indonesia to Singapore missing

An AirAsia flight travelling from Indonesia to Singapore has lost contact with air traffic control with 162 people on board.

Flight QZ8501 lost contact at 07:24 (23:24 GMT), Malaysia-based AirAsia tweeted.

Search and rescue operations are under way.

Malaysia's national carrier Malaysia Airlines has suffered two disasters this year - flights MH370 and MH17 - but AirAsia has never lost a plane.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30614627

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Air traffic controllers lose contact with AirAsia plane

JAKARTA, Indonesia -- An AirAsia plane with 162 people aboard lost contact with ground control on Sunday after takeoff from Indonesia on the way to Singapore, and search and rescue operations were underway.

Flight QZ8501 lost communication with Jakarta's air traffic control at 7:24 a.m. Singapore time (2324 GMT Saturday), about an hour before it was scheduled to land in Singapore, the Singapore Civil Aviation Authority said in a statement.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-traffic-controllers-lose-contact-with-airasia-plane/

More will be known in the morning.

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AirAsia flight QZ8501 lost contact with air traffic control when traveling from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore. The plane should have followed the path of the pink dotted line, but lost contact approximately where the plane icon is located. (Courtesy flightradar24.com)

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Dr. HOHUM Lookin' Up and Seen Our ET Broheims Doin' da Do Again.

HOHUM. Lots of mO fOin' gOin' On Up Dere.

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-traffic-controllers-lose-contact-with-airasia-plane/

"We don't dare to presume what has happened excepted that it has lost contact." Djoko Murjatmodjo, Indonesia's acting director general of transportation, told reporters. He said the last contact between pilot and the air traffic control was "when he asked to hinder cloud by turning left and go higher to 34,000 feet."

He said there was no distress signal from Flight QZ8501. Radar images showed the possibility of strong thunderstorms in the area.

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The crew's request for an unusual route is curious since the weather "didn't seem to be anything unusual," said William Waldock, an expert on air crash search and rescue with Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Arizona.

Severe weather is the reason pilots usually request a different route, but in this case the "winds were light, there were a few thin clouds, but that's about it," he said in an interview.

So which is it?

Or is it, the weather was much worse than forecast?

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"weather" could include clear air turbulence.

"weather" could include clear air turbulence.

A person I know have experienced Clear Air.
For about 10 seconds they where free falling instead of flying and it stopped with a bang.
He is not flying anymore unless he self medicate...
However free falling 34,000 feet takes minutes and it's very unlikely.
Planes are built so that it can handle such situations.

"weather" could include clear air turbulence.

I think the severe thunderstorms shown by radar more likely. Severe thunderstorms means possible large hail and/or tornado activity. Aircraft don't do well in either. Modern aircraft are equipped to take lightning strikes.

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Well, if it did go down in the water and was pretty much on course the waters in those seas is generally very shallow.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Yes, very puzzling.

Cheers.

Hoping this AirAsia flight, is not another MH370.
They searched in bad weather last night, found nothing.

Daylight over there now, hope they find the plane.

There were 155 passengers on board, with 138 adults, 16 children and 1 infant. Also on board were 2 pilots and 5 cabin crew.

Nationalities of passengers:

1 Singapore

1 Malaysia

3 South Korea

1 United Kingdom

149 Indonesia



Nationalities of crew:

1 France

6 Indonesia

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Head of search and rescue, plane is at the bottom of the sea.

Searchers 'Suspect' Missing AirAsia Jet Is on Ocean Floor

Searchers "currently suspect" that the AirAsia jetliner that disappeared Sunday morning over the Java Sea is on the bottom of the ocean, the head of the lead agency in the operation said today.

"We currently suspect that plane is located on the ocean floor," Bambang Soelistyo, the head of Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency said.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/searchers-suspect-missing-airasia-jet-ocean-floor/story?id=27856490

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ET wants A Specific Genetic Code and Abducting Chinese and South Asians is Their MO.

Bottom of Sea. Bottom of ET's SpaceShip More Likely.

Yep.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Here is what I would think might constitute proper reporting on this question by asking:

Were the two lost Airliners of the same make and model?
What are the deicing capabilities of these particular airliners?
What is the stall speed of these planes ?
Do we know what the wind speeds were in the area ?
Would these planes come out of a spin easily?
What is the glide ratio of this plane?
Could it stand to take in a load of hail into both engines. ?
Can these particular engines be easily restarted while in flight.
What would be the impact of a lightning strike on this type of air liner?
What is the experience of each of these pilots?
What is the operational ceiling of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles left over from the Soviet or US involvement in the Middle east?
Were the pilots of a particular religion?
What was in the Cargo hold--freight manifest ?
Were there known terrorists on the passenger list?
Were the cockpit doors locked and re-inforced?
Why is there no one button Mayday broadcast on it's own power circuit?

One plane disappearing after leaving Indonesia is an accident that needs to be solved. A second plane within a year starts to look like there is a plan that needs to be uncovered.

These third world airlines need to bite the bullet and install the tracking devices that already exist and are on airliners from the USA, Great Britain, France, Germany etc.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

One hypothesis is that the plane flew straight into a thunderstorm cell.
Then you can meet a terrible turbulence and hail the size of ping pong balls that can seriously damage the aircraft.
The plane may have lost control after ice crystals ended up in the air data sensors that control the autopilot and provide information in the cockpit.
The most important clue is that the pilot asked to deviate from the route because of a thunderstorm. It indicates that one had weather problems.

But the incident may resemble another disastrous plane crash even more. Namely, the accident of Air France Flight 447 from Rio de Janeiro to Paris that crashed into the Atlantic the 1 June 2009.
The incident was later shown to have been due to the speed sensors put out of service due to icing. This gave the pilots incorrect information about how fast the plane was flowing with the result that the autopilot was disconnected.
The pilots then intervened by raising the nose which had disastrous consequences when the plane then stalled and rapidly lost altitude and after a few minutes, crashing into the Atlantic Ocean. 228 people died and no distress signal was never sent out.

Missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501: Officials examining possible debris

(CNN) -- Indonesian authorities are examining photos of debris that could be from missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501, a government official said Tuesday.

The debris spotted by a search team is located off the coast of Indonesia's central Kalimantan province, Djoko Murjatmodjo, an aviation official at the Transport Ministry, told reporters.

Debris photos show at least one triangular metallic object floating in the water, the official said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/30/world/asia/airasia-missing-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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I see that one of the flight tracker sights is not displaying information on the plane. Yet it has the previous flight and subsequent flight data, so they have coverage. I suspect they are sitting on the data either because of an official impound request, or out of sensitivity to relatives. Another of the flight tracker sights has published data at 1 minute intervals up to the point it stops. As they have 1 minute intervals, whatever happened occurred quick. Also we are not being told that engine pings were happening hours later. We also are not being told about any primary radar returns. My guess is there is data consistent with an inflight breakup which authorities aren't going to release until wreckage is found or all hope for survivors is gone.

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Very sad for those involved .

Question : Why does Air Asia fight have Qantus's designation QZ ?
does Qantus own this airline ?

If they do how come it came down as Qantus has the best trained pilots and the safest record , or has doing things on the cheap lead to this ??????

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